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San Jose Make Some Noise welcome to Tech Rose show the show where former techies like us roast the sad present day techies that are you guys make some noise if you've been to one of our shows before Make Some Noise if it's your first time at a social enap show hell yeah let's see who we have here Make Some Noise if you're an engineer wow this is my CS lecture haul was never this loud [Applause] PMS I feel like that's the appropriate amount of PMS for that amount of Engineers sounds like the PMS got run out of town that's crazy interns are there any interns oh my God they're up there on the balcony they couldn't afford the hey interns what's up this is really cool so we have the founder of blind with us tonight give it up for him the founder of blind we'll talk to him later make some noise if you work for a a big tech company that's everyone wow yeah who do we have uh Google how about [Applause] Adobe like in that corner over there Adobe aren't isn't Adobe like the hot shots in this town isn't like Adobe the what okay okay okay app not what did Adobe do to you have you just NE did they not let you sign that PDF what like what happened that guy's in the back working at canva do we have Mata let's go oh wow oh we hey Nikita Nikita we got somebody really excited over here CRA there's a lot someone really excited about MAA Zuckerberg's larva have hatched uh let's get a let's get a mic on this guy um right here it's the guy in the blue shirt here oh that person sitting alone without anybody by his side yes dude he's so alone he looks like a horizon world's Community Ambassador just like with nobody in the world around him there is an empty seat to your right and to your left at this soldout show I don't see anybody else in this position at all except this meta person what do you do for meta uh I'm a software engineer what product I just switched over to Facebook dating face uh dating the dating dating Facebook dating yeah yeah yeah what the [ __ ] is Facebook dating that's literally an oxymoron right if Facebook dating worked you wouldn't have two empty seats next to you I I genuinely thought they Sun seted that product like how are you just now moving to Facebook dating I feel like Facebook dating is when two people go before Zuckerberg and he matches you like a Sorting Hat you two belong together yeah you and you you guys roasted me pretty hard for being an AI engineer in Mountain View last year so I decided to switch we talked to you before wait so I switched wait so you introduced yourself last time as an AI engineer and since then you decided AI is not a big deal no what I'm going to do instead of AI is Facebook dating cuz that has a future wow I love how we roasted you into a new career trajectory though oh my God after this after tonight what are you going to do you know this is worse than an AI engineer right you understand you're not moving in the right direction at this rate you're only going to be dating in AI it's not that intelligent I guess no oh no sad what what is Facebook dating yeah tell us about it maybe it's cool maybe it's awesome uh sell us on Facebook dating like 57-year-old Uncle can match with another racist 57 no no hold on guys give it a shot it is the most popular dating app in the United States the most popular by like are we like signed on by default like do I not know that I have a like a profile yeah that's got to be it that's why right like the only way to get off the dating app is to delete my Facebook and Instagram you're actually in the database as the date of like 90,000 elderly ladies wait yeah like like what do you mean it's the most popular like dating app in the US I think we have the most you're not sure is it running in the background of all of our phones right now like are we on dates right now with like people in our like proximity that we don't even know this explains so much about meta's business strategy you think the product is popular you didn't check to see whether the product is popular you're just assuming people are using it we're not we're really let's see this Make Some Noise if you use Facebook dating Make Some Noise if you use any other dating app I don't understand I mean if any other dating app combined is not enough evidence for you let's just do Tinder really wow they're a shamed what is happening okay Bumble here watch this I got this chaty PT yeah there you go okay okay wait uh one second so so have you used Facebook dating yeah yeah okay and have you gone on a date through Facebook dating it's [ __ ] fantastic no no I haven't really wait what you haven't wait the dates are different wait wait you have not gone on a date off of it yeah that's correct is that what makes it fantastic like the the fact that you are shielding yourself from the world like what like what makes it awesome if you're not getting the is there like a great system filtering out creeps like you is that unfortunately I'm sorry he works at meta what do you want that's the default denomination creep wait why is it awesome why is it awesome um I think we pay like we're just super empathetic to the users and we try to create the most I like how you sort of slipped into Zuckerberg voice we're super empathetic to our users they have hard time daing we we we have people who really care about the product working on it it's a group of uh I don't know 10 20 people and so if you don't get any matches I will go on a date with you for free me Zuckerberg are are there any like uh distinguishing features that like separate it from the standard Tinder hinge okay besides it having no users let's get back to our next show when he's a mechanical engineer um Facebook dating everybody giv us for Facebook dating all right um Make Some Noise if you work for a [Applause] startup they're up there uh yeah okay the the excited Guy what's the startup wow your excitement really evaporated as soon as you started talking about your startup you're going to have to enunciate so this whole theater hears you too what's that there like eight people working on the team it's real what's it called Zar what it's eight people working on a team it's really small and it's called Zeta Zar zadar Zar zadar like radar but with a Z yeah go thank you for encouraging me I love how his uh startup is so not impressive that just remembering its name saying the name right is like a feet was this the first time you heard it said out loud what what does uh what does zadar [Music] do dude come on you're one of eight people you should please say it's the most popular dating app in the world IM radar it's what Imaging radar an Imaging radar what are what would I image with it what does that mean what is Imaging radar like camera radar yeah familiar with lighter so it's like if you guys can't see this guy just picture the frattiest Asian guy you've ever seen for context okay I feel like he's using this Tech to see under girls clothing that's the five this guy's giving off what is what is the creepy idea G on autonomous Vision what is your role I'm an electrical engineer you're the electrical engineer how do you achieve a higher resol solution that liar I didn't say that okay all right he's honest so wait you're like lier but with lower resolution Nikita is he done no no we're done we're done is Zar done we're done they're done they ran out of fight how about Founders Make Some Noise if you're a Founder whoa what there was one really confident dude yeah uh raise your hand uh if youever found it yeah let's get that person the mic back there oh what did you found uh so we built the easiest to use desktop application for creating AI art you're talking about automatic 11-11 easier we WRA you're talking about comfy UI easier so it's new it's like it's called m a k e a yo how do you know it's the easiest to use one if nobody's ever used it it's just like a really really clean UI so like automatic 1111 looks like crap and so we just took the best part okay but can I run control net on your thing yes okay all right might actually check it out see the UI is actually any good Lee could you bring up Mako [Applause] please m a k e a yo so make and then AO okay why is it just like hentai as your appe that's what the market wants to be fair that is not exactly on make because that is just the state of the art for open source AI art it's just W let's go to that website uh let's scroll let's scroll okay let's scroll I've been spending a lot of time on stable diffusion recently so this I should be able to what the are you making bro yeah that looks pretty user friendly and can we only make hentai with it oh let's check out the first one to see if there is yeah let's click that not the mayonnaise recipe even though the mayonnaise recipe is probably more impr let's go straight to comments the post isn't going to be interesting so people are skeptical that this might be malware [Laughter] [Applause] everybody's so skeptical of you dude can we see the number of okay four stars huh just for comparison automatic 1111 has 7,000 Stars I think is there any code here what is here no it's just an empty repository yeah the [ __ ] is this all right Lee let's get something of sub since we go back to the mayonnaise recipe that was way better any any other Founders Make Some Noise San Jose is uh really this whole city just has m going for it everyone here lives very safely or seite anybody likes seite at uh company yeah yeah yeah okay will you yeah okay uh we'll talk to you I feel like you were saying it deliberately so quietly that we wouldn't be able to identify you in the crowd what are you the chief off uh business development business development for what for a startup yes a startup this is where you tell us the name of the startup uh it's called Cloud chipper Cloud chipper Cloud chipper do uh okay sounds like both a blue collar and a white collar company it sounds like a lot of things uh it's a called cost optimization tool it's what Cloud cost optimization tool okay so it's a B2B company that helps other companies optimize their Cloud cost correct why do you have to be so condescending about it remember the zadar guy was so supportive he's probably more experienced than me uh so how many people add I'm sorry I forgot your name already Cloud chipper sorry yeah Cloud chipper how many people uh whoa oh yep there's no vowels oh is that how it's spelled that that's the yeah like was the regular spelling of cloud cheaper taken oh nice YC back this says your workflow automation right did you guys pivot what is it did you pivot are you pivoting right now no no I mean because normally it's so hard to explain people where is worklow automation so I haven't expected you to be so smart so I come talk [Applause] about did you tell us how many people at wa wait let's just move on we should move on oh from cloud chipper yeah yeah yeah we have one more segment to do uh okay do we not have time for cloud chipper I'm sorry we have to we have a workflow that we need to optimize here I'm really sorry we got uh we're going to see who has or has had the worst job in this room how about that um to give you a demo yeah just a little bit of inspiration for you for a terrible Tech job hi I'm Douglas and I work at Mike I I'm a senior electrical engineer at Apple and they don't tell me what I work on who can do worse than that doesn't have to be a current job it can be a job that you held before Facebook Facebook yeah uh what was your job uh I used to be a trust and safety content and anti-abuse analyst used to be trust and safety content and anti-abuse analyst where don't say meta Google Google Okay Okay some people still trust Google a little bit it's it's really important that AdSense doesn't run against porn so I watched porn at work for fiveing years and that was the that was the worst job you've ever had so your job was watching porn at work here's the thing you don't for ads what type of porn it is what you don't get to pick what type of porn it is it is everything you wait yeah if you got to pick what time of porn it is you're doing it for you not go go who who is picking the porn for you uh so when an Advertiser is pissed off that their ad is running next to like or something then they'll they'll say Hey Google check this out we're mad at you and then we have to do it so people sneak onto Google advertising is that yeah and you were there to catch those abuses of Google ad content and what are the signs that something is born is it like a yeah it's such an existential question yeah how do you okay how do you how do you know just just tell me when you would flag this okay no I'm letting it happen keep going so you are so desensitized where so they told you to just make the call yeah and what what what certifications do like what is your background that makes you was your was your manager effort like you don't need to watch the video that long you're good I mean like what was your favorite genre or I mean okay that is a hard and scary job for Google like like did it like ruin like you ever come back home from work you're like your husband's there you're like not tonight honey I don't want to take my work home with me you're like this is I left this at the office let's see if there's any other ones that thank you that was can anybody compete with that it doesn't have to be that uh keep it going for her too by the way that was an insane job you've been for a lot anybody else really bad the command line forat command for os2 for six months I tested the for os2 like mac os2 Ted hand in the window how old are you I think this voice is coming from a rift in time wait Mac OS too I didn't realize it started that low okay he's on an infinite for Loop so so it wasn't it wasn't Mac OS it was somebody's terrifying IB IB mos2 see we okay it can be and and you tested it like what made testing it bad because like back then that was probably like state-ofthe-art right on a floppy disc on a floppy disc do you have a quick anecdote about like uh the first computer or like whatever like like is there like a cool cuz this these are like new like all like 23-year-old techies like what's what's something like teach the young Punch Cards punch card yeah yeah they used to binary used to be because because like you'd punch a hole in a piece of paper and that'd be like you said floppy disc now you're saying Punch Cards I feel like you're going further to the Past yes okay okay spoken like a true OS too okay did anybody test os1 anyone else worst jober or porn watch yeah yeah we we got one right here yeah uh what's your uh I worked at a lead acid battery Factory in Kansas City you worked at a battery a battery like a factory did you have to test it they just poured it on you you're like yep it's battery acid I have no skin yep what what made it so bad well you had to so there's lead everywhere see after after the workday you have to like take a shower with this really oh you had to take a shower after you got home that's what made the job that she had to take a shower after a work day all right all right all right and now we're going to play a game that we like to call I Can't Believe It's Not Human for this game we'll have two volunteers join us on stage and compete over who can come across more human you'll be presented with situations that require an emotional response and you'll need to react like a real person would if you feel you can do that raise your hand guys this will require soft skills and and and when I point to you when I point to you just say your company and your role company and role Cisco and TPM Cisco TPM TPM lamb search process engineer Lambda search process engineer Oracle software Oracle gross oh can we ask himim can we can we see can we see what his is yeah uh Google reliability Google reliability I'm sorry I asked did you think it was going to be cooler uh go ahead apple apple he can't even say his rooll I bet you can't even say Your Role YOLO Yol Microsoft software engineer keep your hands up look at this broy looking guy what do you do meta software engineer softare engineer and you LinkedIn software engineer what what what LinkedIn LinkedIn LinkedIn oh that's boring right we I want what about the Oracle guy that's such a okay and and where you this is like the perfect opportunity release engineer he kind of looks like an avatar I feel like we okay okay yeah okay we'll take you and you we'll take you and you go okay okay oh wait no not the broy guy oh no no oh no no no uh sorry just just her just her uh and and you and you yeah yeah okay and just to make more just to make things more interesting we'll have them compete not only against each other but also a state-of-the-art AI GPT 4 by open AI but the humans go first okay hey what's your name introduce yourself I'm Ana Anika yes Ana and where do you work LinkedIn LinkedIn nice a software engineer yes great so um when was the last time you have practiced being empathetic oh yesterday oh yesterday what happened I had to meet my team senior director and talk about his kids and you know ask how everything is you to talk about talk about his kids family and kids yeah oh that was hard yeah it was uh what did you say that was particularly empathetic um his son is moving to New York so I like gave him tips on moving cuz I just moved to California oh nice from New York no from Washington DC okay yeah that's nice okay um thanks Ana okay what's your name Kyle Kyle yep what do you do at meta uh I release mobile apps to the different app stores nice um when was the last time you were empathetic well h i it's been a while huh it's not something that's uh usually practiced but like it comes up when it needs to come up so you have you haven't done it at work or in life Kyle I think it comes up once in a while like uh you know my my mentor he recently had a baby and so uh I asked him his baby's name we were chatting about that wow that's so empathetic of you your baby uh what's its name thought I'd asked to be empathetic interesting Kyle I'm confused Kyle you said you're at meta yes is this just so you don't get attacked in the Streets of San Jose why are you wearing a is that Tesla there's yeah there's like a factory floor Tesla uniform I interned there before and uh yeah it's uh it gets a different type of attention than a meta jacket wow so you actually have to like go undercover now if you're a metam mate do you own a Tesla what do you mean I have the undercover hat that was so cool and so lame at the same time wait so you have a Tesla no I just you don't even have a Tesla wait what do you what do you mean it gets you a different type of attention are you are you wearing that to pick up chicks like what do you what is the what do you mean to get you a different type of attention like the villagers throw rocks at you when they see you that kind of more like avoiding that really pitchforks I feel like both Tesla and meta would cause that this is like the double whammy of getting just like beaten up in you're maximizing hate with this outside I'm from Alberta in Canada and like one of my friends thank you thank you they're cheering for you to go back there I think oh yeah that's fine and uh I was told like oh like you work for the evil empire and I'm like you work on programming missile guidance systems I don't know you should be telling me this oh okay so in that straw man scenario you came out on top but in this real world scenario God Kyle looks like the manager of an Applebees um so I'm glad that you have empathy skills and you asked for a baby's name that's good KY and Nike are going to have a a good time so Jesse is going to play your childhood best friend who underwent a really seriously sad tragedy and one at a time you two are going to take turns uh consoling Jesse for that tragedy making him feel better and playing it as seriously as possible this requires your empathy uh a suggestion for a tragedy please death death he died and they're going to consol layoff did you just change your answer death layoff death layoff lay off cancer layoff all right all right um I got laid off by my manager who died okay all right all right uh who do you want to take this Ana or Kyle uh Kyle yeah we'll take all right Kyle take this away oh my God you got this oh Kyle I'm going to say something no one's ever said before keep the meta hat [Applause] [Music] on go be empathetic it's [Music] time hey Jesse how are you doing oh my gosh oh Kyle yeah it's Kyle yeah yeah hey hey Kyle you're looking a little down today uh everything going okay I I I just got uh laid off from my team here at meta could you take your hat off that's really triggering I'm I'm so sorry wouldn't wouldn't want to remind you of that uh yeah I mean that's hard you were you enjoyed your time there and then just came out of the blue oh yeah uh and and and what's more is um he he had a heart attack uh only hours later so it was a a really a lot that was a really stressful moment then combining all that together yeah yeah yeah Kyle cool man yeah thanks man I mean what like like I I don't know what to do man yeah I mean it's I hope that like are you attempting to make physical contact like I hope that being in the company of your friends is like something that makes you feel a bit more comfortable with that like you can talk to me we can we can chat you can touch you can you can touch me I I I think I'm I'm okay you sound like you don't care at all this sounds like a default SIM conversation Kyle um I I feel bad uh it's okay to feel [Music] bad thank you for your permission look I I I just don't know what to do have you ever been laid off no I I any advice just keep going forward one step at a time and you know take advantage of the time to you know spend time with your family your friends and those who keep it going Kyle wow that was incredible dude that was like getting advice from an AM radio station like that's just like on yeah so then Cross the third base and uh yeah weather outside is you've never consoled anyone huh wow okay well Ana how do you feel about that you think you can uh outdo Kyle you got a oh I think I can that's the spirit okay all right let's get another tragedy for another tredy up what a breakup breakup uh with the manager wait wait wait wait wait okay wait wait I didn't hear it say break up with the manager break up with my break upen these people have trauma in the audience they're like yeah and the manager [ __ ] died all right somebody was like I got broken up with your manager who died they're like we don't care what the scenario is as long as the manager dies God what if uh I got broken up with by somebody who was my higher up okay that's fine I got broken up with by my high I got broken up with and I'm sad about it and I and they were like they were I reported to them [Music] right bathetic you got this an oh Ana hey hey what's so funny I'm crying what happened uh what happened uh gosh I uh I got dumped I got dumped do you want a logical solution or do you want a feel [Applause] through uh I want you to assess the situation as best you can and then provide whatever you think would be the best thing for me in this in this context okay how many days has it been or hours um uh 20 minutes it happened 20 minutes ago all right first we got to get get you some ice cream some ice cream I'm lactose intolerant glutenfree ice cream oh sorry black free ice cream God I hate coconuts an I don't care about that I don't need ice cream I just I just miss I just miss her we had such a hot power Dynamic it was just like what do you miss about her uh I miss being submissive and I I miss that I just miss it you can do that at work I could do that at work yeah I don't know what you mean by that what I look what do I do I don't know what to do I'm just like sad I loved her have you ever loved somebody no what the [ __ ] is San Jose where are keep we going for a n wow that was really good okay that that was a good opener are we ready for GT4 yep yep yep uh we so what we normally do is we create the like the perfect Avatar of a local Tei and then we have GPT for take on the role of that Tei Persona in San Jose but this time around because we have the founder of blind Austin created something special yeah so uh I changed it a little bit so last night uh I spent the night kind of uh teaching gbd4 how to talk like a typical blind user so so and we were using it today and we were using it today it is strikingly good it is yeah well we'll see we'll see it's okay so we'll well we'll see what happens yeah okay let's get another tragedy so this time around gp4 is going to be ulating an anonymous blind user there's more info underneath that we're not going to show you there's a there's a longer system message here that we're not going to show you because it's proprietary uh Jesse let's get a tragedy for GT4 oh yeah one more tra got reassigned to Facebook dating okay wait wait wait stop stop stop stop got reassigned to Facebook dating I got reassigned to Facebook [Applause] dating so he got kicked off his team and reassigned to Facebook is is fa was Facebook dating around in 2021 or whenever the cut off was yeah 2021 it it's been around that long and nobody cares about it that's how about this reassigned to Facebook dating the world's least po dating app ready become [Music] inconsolable LOL dating app you dumb dumb you be bipped in no time start grinding Lea go get out secure multiple offers dude you are stuck in a f failing shift if you're so much into dating move out of Bay Area NYC is where all your DS are remember pick a house you can afford not that you want don't be a goof was crying about high Bay rates all day long be wise invest smart diversify your portfolio put an S&P 500 safer steady blind toxic as [ __ ] true story but we Dicky here even then don't wa what the fck is Dicky TC 320 it's like okay okay okay it's like too blind wow that was a lot um but I'm still trying to process this and I'm grieving like well how do I get over this I don't want to work for Facebook [Music] dating stop your emo grow some BS Facebook dating is [ __ ] agreed but who's not rfl here you're not alone bro listen you ain't got a chance unless you act Smart Start grinding leco till your eyes bleed interview hard get more offers use them as leverage screw Facebook dating your life's not over stop your drama queen act might land you a roll on Netflix though and dude get off from blind for a while popping veins not going to help get done then back on here flexing your un TC you know wait TC 330 did it change did is TC it went up it went up how' it go up Anana is doing pretty well okay how the [ __ ] did it go up I want to do something here in San Jose tonight to get my mind off it what do I do can you also ask ask why his TC changed also how did your TC just go up San Jose LOL go date a tree you'll probably have more fun but seriously stop whining grab a drink slap yourself WAP harder as for mytc stocks and bonuses my dude don't tell me you didn't consider that in your crying mask got to play the game if you want to survive in this jungle DC 350 keep it going for gd4 everyone all right all right uh so now you guys are going to vote on who was the most human among them make some noise for Kyle Ana Anan by GT4 hey guys keep we going for our volunteers thank you guys so much you guys were great you're laid off the stage thank you so much are you guys ready for the roast portion of the evening all right come on you guys can do better than that are you ready for the rast portion of the evening Make Some Noise yeah um what we do if you haven't been to a show before is we have an open casting call for anybody who wants to be roasted I guess this time we ignored all of your submissions because the guy from blind wanted to do do this so uh we have him today but normally we uh we have an open gasing call and then what we do is we interview you collect data from 10 of your closest friends family enemies co-workers exes and we use it to write custom Rose jokes these are going to be Rose Jokes which means they're supposed to be a little bit hurtful a little bit morally reprehensible filled with hatred the thing to remember is these people come to us they ask to get roasted they want this it's a lot of love it's all good fun however here at Social inap we understand that many of you have never had fun right so we're going to give you a little bit of a demonstration and Austin will play ATT Tech creature hi there my name is Aaron and I'm an intern at [Applause] Adobe love you uh Aaron yes uh introduce yourself so right now I'm interning Adobe I'm living in the Santa Clara area you're living in the Santa Clara area well near Santa Clara where specifically the Winchester Mystery House um it's the only place I could afford rent I live on a stair that goes up into a wall with 19 other interns they're actually turning into a hacker house it's pretty cool oh is it that's that's yes the person leading the hacking is actually a ghoul okay yes so uh What uh what do you do for fun in San Jose I like hi I go to Castle Rock um I do the um yeah well I don't even know Aaron fans in the crowd know what Aaron likes I have all these voices in my head and and I me I started dating recently yeah you started dating yes oh pretty cool how's it going what uh what app do you use um I do use Facebook dating oh okay okay okay okay but it's really weird because I so I go on the app and like you know how like on Tinder like after you Swip for a long time you run out of people right so the when I first downloaded Facebook dating I just I ran out of people that said but I think that's just cuz there's no other users on the app right so it was really weird yeah but every once in a while you'll see one pop up no oh okay they're actually dropping off yeah no but I I like to bird around town what a bird around bird around town the bird scooters okay yeah no I got it the thrill of a lifetime okay uh so I'm uh going to count to three and when I get to three please just act like I just said a very good roast joke just to be clear there's not going to be a rose joke no no I'm just going to say the number three but as soon as he gets to the number three we're going to need you to respond by making as much noise as you possibly can as an audience I want to be destroyed just laugh clap stomp just optimize our Instagram reals algorithm yes so can I invite you to an apartment party after this at the Winchester are is that you calling it an apartment well one it's not my apartment yes okay yes yes yes whose apartment two it's my friend's apartment in copertino I don't want to go it's going to be 35 guys and one girl so two destroy me rotiss me I want to be burned roasted alive destroy me three three three guys keep it going for our rasty coming to the stage he's the co-founder of blind Kum [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] k Kim Kim Kim uh introduce yourself man yeah my name is Kim I'm 38 years old I'm from originally from South Korea are there any Koreans here yeah thank you um and uh I founded blind about almost 10 years ago and uh I just want to say thank you oh thank you for for using like CU these people are using yeah actually seeing the uh chat GPT act like a blind user made me really proud yeah okay okay so clearly there's a lot of pent up just like I won't call it Sexual Energy but there's a pent up energy here and I think people just want to get something off their chest do we do it now or do we do it later get out of the system we we'll give you this one opportunity to just yell at at K okay on the count of three we won't even say what it is you know what it is one gum TC or okay there we go we got it out of our system all right so TC or get the [ __ ] out uh yeah TC uh so my TC I my base salary is in imagine if he just got the yeah I was thinking of that but uh yeah my base salary is like lower 200s and I have a bunch of stock it could be zero it could go to couple millions or tens of I don't think your stock is going to be worth zero Make Some Noise if you're a blind user although I guess the same was true of Yik Yak one day so don't get too comfortable yeah uh and what uh what do you do at blind right now I'm doing community growth stuff so I'm literally like sending push notifications to you guys and okay um are you guys hiring uh not right now okay so uh no role for a Content moderator this girl has a specialty and uh oh yeah when we open a por Channel all you know uh cool man um what do you do for fun uh I have a 2 and a half year-old so I don't have much spare time but in the weekend like the lone clap for having a child a lot of empathy in this house that was his that was his unattended 2-year-old daughter in the audience clapping but uh I I like to play soccer in the the weekends and that's basically all I do okay this is what you told us uh in the interview blind is a Korean company a lot of people don't know that interestingly it's huge in Korea 45% of the workforce in Korea uses blind wild could you picture a world where 45% of the US used it and uh initially you were sent to the us to start acquiring a user base here back when nobody used it in the US you were sent here and you started by targeting Amazon employees specifically specifically because they were mad since they only got bananas and no free food can we can you tell the story of moving to Seattle renting the apartment and just throwing the Pary sure so how it happened was uh we ran this um ad that said if you want to talk to your corkers anonymously uh sign up for this form and Amazon employees are like pissed off they like I don't want to talk to my coworkers so we flew to Seattle met a bunch of people and decided to move into this apartment right next to the Amazon campus and uh and the thing is and you chose the apartment because of all the Amazon employees that live there right yeah yeah a lot of Amazon employees live there there and um and then you come in and what do you do so when we were briefly in the valley like targeting LinkedIn employees right but all the Silicon value companies give you free food and stuff so we had no Advantage but when we went to Amazon free food they were like oh [ __ ] I'm going to go there so so we attracted a lot of people who want free food free drinks free coffee they never had that kind of luxury before yeah so we paid for everything and we just threw parties every week and and these cheap Amazon employ always came to our parties and signed up for blind and you were getting like wasted every night with these guys yeah yeah yeah I was that was your job to just get wasted yeah just drinking all night and then you partnered with a like this like very sociable uh Korean magician and you brought him to the parties yeah so that one of our employ jointly acquire users one by one yeah initially and manually sign them up that's crazy that you manually signed up blind users in the early days it's very cool it worked the crazy part is that it actually worked as a user acquisition strategy yeah if you just give someone some barbecue they'll sign up for BL that's incredible and you targeted like only the Korean community at first right yeah we I I was I'm still I still consider myself a fob so um I I get awkward around like other people okay I I would not have guessed that that would work on an audience of humans like give them a little bit of barbecue that's a user pH of dogs yeah but the they they they would download the app and give out your work email and you know that is impressive though that's smart that is like the Zuckerberg thing the smallest viable network is that what you're were trying to do small yeah yeah so we targeted Amazon and police force and then went on to Microsoft employees and I don't know if if anyone here worked in Seattle uh Microsoft Office but Microsoft I did too yeah I still live in Seattle and honestly that's what most seattleites do what you did back then just like get drunk every day and watch Amazon employees descend on their houses like a plague of locusts yeah yeah yeah and cry on their desk and stuff right and uh I I I think that story is very cool I think that the Gorilla Marketing you did in the early days was very cool here's another thing you said you did uh you found a parking garage at Microsoft campus that was out of view of the security cameras and you plastered posters for blind advertising blind everywhere and the cleaners never took them down because you branded them as though they were a Microsoft product right really cool how did you how did you achieve the look of a Microsoft product was it just really shitty design the we just wrote like Microsoft only at the top and there was like a small fine text uh at below like we were not affiliated micros Microsoft but it was like almost invisible so when they saw it was like Microsoft only okay yeah maybe it's some something from HR or something that is [ __ ] cool dude kudos to you I love I love that story um and here's another thing you said you said blind uh how you acquire new users now you get huge boosts in user count every time a tech controversy happens so internally blind calls all the disgrace controversial figures your CMOS it's just just me like I don't want to comment on other employees but yeah Travis KCK the better.com CEO people like that you know uh another thing I like you less now that's good I feel like we we like him too much we need to stop saying nice things about your story is actually kind of exciting it yeah for a Founder uh okay here's here's a Les Sav thing you said you said your daughter is your second priority after after after your marriage a no not a still sh uh and okay okay how about this one while working your first job your company uh got 30 new sales interns and you ended up marrying one of them married his intern yeah yeah um so this was at my first company before blind and uh um we had only like 15 people at the company we hired 30 sales interns and my wife was one of them yeah we we we started dating after she converted to a time just I don't know if well to be fair she said she rejected you unless she got the full-time offer is that is that is that right no how did she know I feel like this story is only sweet if you end up marrying the intern like you can't just anyway maybe it's not we'll see I don't know uh this is what your friend said Kum Kum is nice and incredibly smart Kum is very boring uh Kum drives a Tesla does yoga and is an alcoholic he drinks wine every day and drinks until 3:00 a.m. often and blacks out uh he buys things recommended by Reddit users and applies advice from blind uh Kum is the one who started the Microsoft and Amazon private channel on blind way back in 2015 that's when employees started the TC di measuring contest that spread out to Apple meta and Uber and finally Kum would black out after promoting blind at small Gatherings and come home with other people's shoes on that's Kim keep it going for your first roster Austin nesso dude K thank you so much for being here tonight the CEO of blind couldn't make it uh you were our second choice um dude blind is like if glass door had a child with forchan that was abused by Lee Coast H this one is so dumb uh you you left Korea but starting blind is when you gave up your soul um okay Kum had an intern under him after the office happy [Applause] hour yeah he told her it was in all hands [Applause] um dude I think I think that's [ __ ] up though you married your intern that's not how return offers work uh you don't marry the person it was nice of you though you gave a student a full ride [Music] uh uh this is my impression of you talking to your intern bride uh hi I'm Kim I can also make you Kim uh [Applause] this is a fun fact uh your app and your apps UI designers are both blind um I I deducted that uh blind's a way better name than bully your co-workers as a service though so I think it's still up there uh you describe blind as a marketing business which is interesting they're generating tons of traffic to the National Suicide Hotline uh Hing is the app designed to be deleted blind is the app designed to make you delete yourself on crunch base it says blind is an anonymous workplace Network where verified professionals connect to discuss what matters most let's see some examples of what matters most uh can I afford 150k car 735k TC net worth 650 okay next so pump to be divorced uh was that your intern bride who wrote that okay next comp manager's twin this is so weird have proof that a manager has been having a look alike badge into the office instead of them this is what matters most on blind okay guys keep going for Nikita AER that's my hey so you're not only a co-founder of blind you also still work there and your official role is Chief business officer you know that's not a real role right yeah yeah that's true Chief business officer being named chief business officer by your co-founders is the startup equivalent of your older siblings giving you a controller to play with that's not plugged in [Applause] they're like we have a very important mission for you Kim you're going to be the main business guy and then your mission was to fly to Seattle and drink with the lonely Amazon people that was how you did user acquisition isn't it a little bit tragic when your company's entire business model is just based on the fact that nobody at Amazon has ever been invited to a party before and if you just give these sad teis like the ability to get a drink and listen to some music you can actually charge $80 per ticket and sell out a room like this that's so awkward we have the same business strategy um you said you expect to bring a lot of new revenue for blind through scaling the recruitment side of your business it is 2023 Kim nobody is recruiting humans human developers are the new nfts have you seen them each face is just a little bit different none of them do anything they're currently completely overpriced but will be worthless in a year and they're all non-fungible look at them uh one of your friends said that your daughter goes to a weird preschool school where all the kids have to take their shoes off and I thought that's sort of a strange thing to mention but then another friend said Hume loves to black out and then come home wearing other people's shoes you thought we wouldn't connect those dots introducing the Revolutionary new product that [ __ ] is obviously working on blind for kids finally a place where you can anonymously and honestly answer your childhood's main questions like these help compare numbers 3 and8 which is better rate my net worth at 9 years old I have $7 plus cool shiny bug Charlie from school has more money A PS5 multiple bugs contemplating suicide should I ask out teacher completely misspelled she has long pretty hair mama says I can't M5 total teeth 11 and go to second grade or keep coasting in first let's take a closer look on that one go to second grade or keep coasting in first been chilling here for 2 years lunch is free assignments are mostly coloring stuff SL identifying animal sounds which I know pretty well by now years of Life eight total crayons 238 green I posted this yesterday I thought I was going to do just like stupid comments by me but real people actually commented we have someone from Google saying how many more crayons do you need for do you get for second grade and someone from Nvidia saying better to get an outside offer from a different elementary school then negotiate for 15% more recess that's blind for kids thank you I I think I think those are all the jokes I have but on a serious note I think it's really cool how you prioritize your family over a pretty cool job and in the interview you said that your first priority is your marriage your second priority is your daughter above everything else I actually got something for your daughter just a second here this is for Siri thank you so much but you need but you need to show them oh my God look at this thank you so much no problem and then when you press let's see when you press this it says remember baby no matter what happens you'll always be your daddy's second I I should legally Legally before you give it to ser I should warn you that if you press this you don't want to press this cuz this says now TC or get the up they going for Jessie [Music] Jessie it's pretty [ __ ] cool huh he actually made that sh yesterday was very cool thank you so much yeah yeah yeah imagine Nikita stepping into a Build-A-Bear by himself he didn't tell us why he went there he was just like I at Builder Bear by myself you know how risky that is I actually had to record these in store and there are kids going around so I had to go in a corner and just go t or get the [ __ ] out creepiest moment of my life you yelling into a bear in the corner wait you yell into its Beating Heart right that's even creepier no no you get a little plastic thing but that's like a heart you you put inside right no I didn't put a heart into this one I thought it would be cruel yeah and it's for the B co-founder so it doesn't get a heart uh well you can perform an autopsy on it later and so give it to your your daughter a okay okay um y uh the more layoffs that happen the more controversy just like generally the Shier the world gets the more you profit uh I think that's cool that blind has the same business model as drugs uh so that's that's really neat uh in preparation for this roast I spent so much time on blind I I do feel mentally unwell I will say that it's it's impossible not to compare yourself to all those people who are like clearly lying and inflating uh their numbers like literally today I saw this guy post about how he was only 23 and he's already been on one date like pix her didn't happen dude sounds like he's lying uh a lot of people use blind to find out about layoffs uh that way instead of being completely caught off guard when you're fired you can have a week to panic about something completely outside of your control I think that's really uh but blind's origin story just like super inspiring the fact that to start blind in the US you would throw these parties with techies convince them to sign up in person one by one I genuinely just wish I was there like I just picture just picture this party right it's just this room full of drunk awkward Amazon employees one gregarious Korean street magician he's doing C tricks while Kum is like pretty cool right so like what's your work email cool party anyway I think it's great you monetize your alcoholism I think it's really creative and the Gilla marketing stunt where you pretended to be Microsoft that was [ __ ] awesome and you've obviously since distanced yourself from Microsoft other than The Tragically slow growth both uh you and Microsoft have uh so slow U but you married your intern uh when Kiam and his wife spice things up they roleplay as two people who have an equitable power dynamic when you guys are fighting be honest how hard is it for you to hold back going you report to me godamn it sounded kind of off to me I don't know the Maring your intern thing so I wanted to see what people thought about it so I actually made a post on blind uh and it went viral it it went viral they probably saw it dating my sales intern hey oh we all got a new sales intern I've taken a fancy to one she's been assigned to me wondering for to date and potentially even marry her I really like her and this got tens of thousand of views and then next slide he got flagged and taken down in 3 hours uh but fear not I still have screenshots from it so I'm going to go ahead and share I made a poll uh date marry her stay away from her I'll show you the results after I show you some of the comments so uh so next slide so some of the people aren't very supportive uh a lot of people very supportive um but a few people actually gave some very constructive actionable feedback I suggest you wait until the end of her internship to make the move if she's interested work out the details later if she's not she doesn't need to see you again you have four steps to be followed in the order on the last two weeks of the internship coffee with Team coffee with her alone dinner with team dinner with her alone if you make it to the last fourth step I would feel happy for you which steps did you do K which ones did you do I I I wrote that so still pretending to be Microsoft I see uh and this is actually cool underneath this comment um Andrew Tate actually made uh uh an guess her you want to be direct as a man ask her out and say to her face that you're interest lead f otherwise early rejection saves you time oh my gosh um okay so so yeah there's this poll there's this poll here uh let's do a live poll okay so make some noise if you say date marry her Make Some Noise if you say stay away from her and what are the results of the poll stay away from her that sound that seems pretty exact to what just happened uh so uh the takeaway is divorce uh immediately uh okay to close out the roast Kum I thought it'd be cool to have the founder of blind answer some of blind's hottest questions uh let's take a look at the first question here how toxic is the blind app what not at all I'm offended you'd even ask a little bit somewhat toxic or as toxic as Amazon's culture I I think it's a little bit toxic yeah a little bit toxic okay let's see what the results are uh as toxic as W well it started with Amazon so that makes sense you guys have adopted the culture the beliefs of the the culture okay what's the next question here smelly hoodie it's 90° and our intern is worn the same hoodie all week and it's starting to smell K what does this guy do what's the polite way to say something uh I would ask her out you would ask her out no stop asking her out vacuum we're sending you back to Seattle where nobody talks to anybody ask her out oh my God okay uh next one grandma died is it okay to take time off look at the look at the monsters you've created um well yeah what do you think is it okay for this guy to take some time off at Square yeah I think you should take time off of course okay were you expecting something different from me no no no no no I was expecting I don't know like marry her or something I dat her ask her out ask her out uh lastly this one's important we need you your answer to this met a female at the gym today uh she was pretty cute I asked her how much she can bench and got her number um yeah Kum like dots now TC or get the [ __ ] up keep it going for [Applause] [Music] Kum we're going to do the speed roast portion of the evening raise your hand if you want to come on stage and get roasted house lights on please can we take a look let's start with someone from the balcony so have time to get down right yeah yeah uh a the balcony they're going to take so long okay at the very very back the guy in the yellow shirt in the very very back yes we're going to have to wait so long for them to get down that's okay hey run hurry hurry hurry uh keep your hands up everybody keep your hands up okay we'll take you okay they seem very enthusiastic about you being roastable uh he's not volunte I'll I'll just take you come on keep it going for your volunteers everybody keep going for here how did we get how did we get the uh gender ratio of a typical San Jose party uh real quick before we talk to you guys we need you to self-organize um from lowest to without talking to each other you can't say anything highest total compco [Music] no talking no talking you cannot speak okay so we're going to speak to each of you separately but before we do very quickly total comp go 320 you think you're lowest in San Jose you said 320 I read on blind okay total com go [Applause] 380 total com go 400 what total come go 240 bubble sword that's right yeah go back to bubbl sword all the way to the back dcom go 450 uh what were what was yours 400 oh okay you were the only one out okay okay everybody please step back San Jose is always the richest crowd it's so crazy we were in Boston and like I think the highest paid person was like 90 okay introduce yourself name company hello I am hen and I work for meta you work for meta what do you do for them I'm a software engineer okay you look like you got some new uh DLC clothes this was the this looks like something you would buy in Horizon worlds for $2.99 are you wearing a painting I think so dude you're dress like a pile of laundry right now this is like a it's stretchy what what product are you working on we know it's functional what product VR VR that is not a product as much as a failed dream what is a product so my I'm software lead and my team does support for all VR projects all VR projects there's still multiple yeah many more to come okay so it's just the quest 3 and Horizon Worlds at this point right I work with the hardware so Quest three cuz you just canceled the quest Prine wait wa you work on the hardware correct you said your software engineer right software engineer but I'm not I'm not working on the software platform I'm not on Horizon World meta is such a mess so it makes sense why he has the lowest TC that's still too high though definitely too high Dr Hardware at meta is just one product right now right at least one released product Quest 3 everything else has been discontinued I'll be honest I didn't know Quest Pro was discontinued you I was sh when you I bought one for $1,600 and you don't even know internally when it's discontinued wait so I thought you're finding out that you're laid off I didn't look at blind I should have looked at blind imagine the goal to sell people a $1600 headset and to quietly discontinue it and not even tell your Hardware software engineer hybrid monster thing that's so crazy that somebody who makes this much money today is finding out what they do for work do they ever make you watch VR porn no okay she's like yes yes he laughed like he watches a lot what do you do I I have a crazy story about MAA oh yes yes he got those crazy NDA breaking eyes do you want us to bring out the teddy bear so we can show us on the teddy bear what happened um so there is a really big fight in meta about ft versus contingent workers and this isn't the jiu-jitsu fight no no that's still to come I hope it it happens okay a really big fight about what about if you're fulltime or if you're a contractor right so what are you I'm a contractor oh W so so the problem at meta right now is there's well there's more than one be yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah related to the topic uh we are E7 which for a contractor is pretty high but an E7 would make 1.6 there's no way that's crazy story wait wait wait E7 would make what so the same people doing our job are getting above a million dollars just because they are fds and we not yeah but see that's not a reason for you to get more that's really just a reason for them to get less considering correct but the craziest thing is when we are offer the FTE we're brought down from an E7 down to an E3 you know what you should do there's an app that you should use huh okay thank you for sharing your story oh that's so tragic wow introduce yourself yeah U I used to work at meta okay but I got laid off so you got laid off in meta yeah were you working as the the guy who would pop up on Facebook dating no I feel like you'd be the one dude on there but yeah I recently last week I've joined PlayStation you Rec PlayStation PlayStation you now work at on the PlayStation team yes uh what are you working on I'm working as a team PM we are building the sdks for uh new placed Studios who develop the games dude you look like you'd be the cover of an electrical engineering romance novel like you'd be you'd be on the front of the textbook on a horse dude if I wanted to advertise cologne for engineers I'd have your face on it you like the Armani Exchange like cologne type engineer Vibe um what what do you do for fun uh hot poot oh wow nice and I play Katan so yeah oh Katan very cool with just hot pot and Katan are you just listing intern activities uh I also I do hike a lot uh in the area and I expected that so yeah uh anything that isn't utterly cookie cutter like what's like come on you look like you buy a table at like a Wei work like the like a hot desk never mind what's something interesting about you most people don't know uh to be honest not much I used to uh I used to do modeling back in India you used to do modeling yeah oh what type of stuff did you model uh I have model for there's a brand called is uh Raymond uh back Raymond Raymond so it's it's a suiting brand clothing brand you got laid off of modeling how did that happen uh no the TC was less so I I came here for and what do you do with all your money 380 right 380 TC 320 320 oh gross never mind get back there back there no but in meta it was 450 so oh you took like 100k pay cut no but I got the seven so I'm good oh you got seven okay so what do you do with can you really put a price on not being at meta yeah so what do you what do you do with all your idle cash what do you do with it uh I thinking of putting it in S&P 500 and I S are you on blind sorry are you on blind yes of course yeah okay did you ever model live or just cataloges no I have model on the ramp walks uh and stuff like oh can you with your mind cuz we're about we're about to send you back to the line we we'll give you a shirt that you can model for us too oh yeah that's actually a great idea can you start working on the next person and I'll go get you outfitted with a shirt yeah yeah yeah okay to model for us I'll be I'll be back in a minute okay come with me oh no Nikita okay hey what's your name Betty Betty and where you were Roblox Roblox nice cool and what do you do for them I'm a software engineer uhhuh nice and and why are you dressed like you're planning to die on the Oregon [Laughter] Trail I actually just came from a summer picnic for the company so uhuh okay yeah cool a summer picnic very nice and what do you do outside of work um I just recently got into quidditch quiddit yeah quid so you know that's um don't don't don't disillusion her right now man no it's no it's cool yeah it's real it's real she rides a br that was a lie and I'm not talking to that man again wait is he gone he's getting a shirt okay s what happened back there did you did you see his body and you're like you liar you're not I don't believe you anymore bring me up to speed she she she she takes a a cleaning utensils and goes wo oh okay professionally like for for a tech company no no no no no no we fun there's a tech there's a tech hobby that's gaining popularity recently quidd quidditch you're you're a quiddit player yes continue tell us about it um well I played for like a few months and then I asked if I could go with them to us Nationals and they're like sure the US national that sounds about right like that's the level of difficulty it is to get on us Nationals hey can I go sure yeah cool all the points are made up this doesn't matter come yeah this is okay so so you were on the national team no no I went to the Nationals oh to watch no no I did play it was a club team so we were in the club division yeah oh how'd you do uh not too well yeah did you know it's a full contact sport so it's like rugby you had to wear a mouth guard and then you can tackle people for quidd yes you can get hurt playing quiddit yes you can be in the hospital next to people with like real problems and they're like what are you in for and you're like I don't want to talk about yeah I don't want to talk about a Linux engineer beat me with a broomer okay what do you do in San Jose what the [ __ ] goes on here I don't live here I live in Sano still stands I like what what what goes on in s wait where do you do you live here Canada wait wait wait where do where do you live I live s wait wait wait wait wait where where do you live San Jose San Jose so who else lives in San Jose Jose make some do not live in San Jose why are we doing our shows in San Jose what we're making them commute wow this space today has filled more than all of the corporate office buildings in San Jose that's so crazy okay keep it going for Betty thank you thank you Betty thank thank you so much hi hey tell us about yourself dude you have such a cool manager Vibe manager Vibe yeah you got a cool manager I thought he made the most too and then he was checked I I work for my employees what I work for my employees you work for your employees yeah that is such a CO be endearing right now you just sound like a corrupt politician immediately what company do you sell weapons for not not not yet not yet not yet I didn't where do you where where do you work so I work for a late stage startup called 84i called what Eightfold AI 8 for Eightfold eight for like you fold eight times Eightfold Eightfold Eightfold Eightfold a Eightfold like eight times the something right yeah and what is Eightfold AI so it's like um it's not a dating app it's not a dating app that's always a good start to a pitch when you have to specify what it isn't but it matches candidates with positions oh so for uh for Kum it's a dating app right is that uh so so depending on what you're interested in uh eight-fold AI Lee can we pull it up I I feel like this is going to be interesting to pull it up I oh okay no [ __ ] Cloud shipper I don't want to hear about Cloud shipper oh wow 125 million right what's your role I manage a technical support team for for theam for the you manage the tech support team for Eightfold okay how many people do you manage about 25 25 okay and Eightfold is an AI system to pick whom to lay off no no uh let's go to the let's go to the S Le dude imagine getting laid off or pipped by a [ __ ] AI man wow intelligence oh I want Talent Flex what is contingent Talent F oh it's this guy contingent Talent yeah yes it's the guy you criminally underpay for the same job did you know you're a contingent Talent correct good all right all right keep it going for everybody thank you thank you thank you uh let gu here hey dude Tony Hawk man what's up brother look at this guy and you make the most money how much money do you make again 450 450 okay what's your name Anon Anton what do you worth uh Robin Hood Robin Hood oh Dam W you stole from the poor and gave to yourself is that how you got that TC wait that's crazy so that app sucks why do you work there doesn't suck it's great huh no one thinks it's great do you want to Paul how many people have accounts to Robin Hood here are you guys actively using Robin Hood yeah people do use it but people people still hate it it's like it's like how we all still have who doesn't use it way more way more yeah yeah uh how old are you I'm uh 30 you're 30 dude you look like an old boy he does 30 TC 480 450 450 oh man what do you spend it on yeah a save yeah we could tell based on your clothing I have a car what car what kind of car Tesla 3 okay nice nice so you're just saving for all the extra downloadable features right what does what does the child do he he works at Robin Hood At what Robin Hood Robin Hood the micro investment okay like Acorn that type of thing yes yes okay it's more than that Acorn is just like whatever over how do you know his name Lee this is how do you know his name oh wait Robin Hood oh I didn't hear [ __ ] you Robin Hood right I got the GameStop at $30 you you assle ass uh let's check out his LinkedIn let's check out his LinkedIn 30 is a good prize though all right let's see his uh experience here just so much fintech stuff man un mode does he works on growth at Robin what are you growing nothing's growing user base I'm a I was a part of a referral team dude you are so obsessed with money you work for a company called bucks just like bucks how do you have so much [ __ ] on your resume you're 17 no I know that's what I thought he's 30 that's what I thought 30 yeah I also thought he was 17 wow did you know that he is Young or younger than you did you know that how old are you I am I turned 30 in April when did you turn 30 July 9th this year oh I'm a little I'm a little bit they're the same age these two but you should still be shocked it it does look like a father and son yeah and guess what you're [ __ ] grounded Robin h all keep it going for thanks thank you we have a guest coming out okay we actually have something um so we we have the the the the the model who to model a shirt for us before he comes out uh let's uh have Lee put on some appropriate music he said any music will do but Lee [Music] whatever ladies and gentlemen introducing the the laid off line of clothing by socially [Applause] [Music] Ina with a tri blend fabric we are selling this after our show guys keep it going for guys that's our show thank you thank you guys so much we're going to be in the lobby taking pictures you guys are the best T [Music] boys T [Music] boys T boys T boys with your mustache and your paycheck and your blue b and your Lim boys