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[Music] swear all testimon about this help go I please be seated sir and then we you state your name and spell your last name please Patrick Kennedy k n and D white your honor prior to the or during the break I was informed that M white is going to be the person from the District Attorney's Office handling these two witnesses I'd like to make a statement to the court for the jury to understand and for everyone to understand that I am calling detective Kennedy now so that he may testify as to part of the confession given by Mr dmer uh he's going to testify to the early part of the confession that was given by Mr dmer that subsequent to a certain period of time detective Murphy came in on the case and that he and detective Kennedy then took most of the other statements from Mr dmer we are only going to go through the part where Mr Kennedy was alone then we are going to dismiss him with the understanding the state will be calling him back later for other reasons then I'm going to call detective Murphy to the stand to continue the giving of the confession that was taken by Mr dmer I am therefore at this time going to ask some preliminary questions and I'm going to ask that my um the entire confession be marked as an exhibit and if it is going to be received I'm going to ask the court to hold that it not be shown until such time we a chance to clean up some of the some of the underlining and things of that nature but I'd ask that the entire confession is going to be talked about by it's all just so so the record's clear I'm I'm showing you theend exhibit number one for identification and I ask you if you look at that briefly do you know that to be the confession that you and detective Murphy took from Jeffrey dmer and especially the first four pages as being part of that confession with you personally took from Mr dmer while detective Murphy was not that's correctly and as far as concern you've had opportunity to look at this confession in total yes I have and the the documents that I showed you the confession that was Tak yes sir it is I move your honor that it be received in evidence as defendant exibit one the confession given by Mr D Milwaukee Police Department over a period days be identified go long with the understanding that I will have an opportunity to move per thing from this document that do not have any relevy is say no objection to the admission the reservation of those exani matters um in the concession being removed we're evidence but I'm going to have to have a stipulation is you we we're we're working on and doing that detective Kennedy you're a member of the Milwaukee Police Department yes sir I am for what period of time have you been so employed 12 years and when did did you join the Milwaukee Police Department in March of 1980 and what age were you when you joined the police department 26 years old prior to joining the police department what if anything did you do I worked for the State running halfway houses for delinquent youths the time you when did you become a detective of the Milwaukee Police Department not quite three years ago and since that time you've been F functioning as a detective with the Department that's correct sir there come a time on July the 3rd 1991 while in the course of your official duties as a detective of the Milwaukee Police Department you came across the person of Jeffrey dmer he being a gentleman seated next to my associate Wendy Pat yes sir that's let the record reflect that detective Kennedy has identified Mr D detective Kennedy uh what were the circumstances under which you uh became uh aware of Mr D and tell the court and the jury how that came about please I was working uh on a homicide squad on The Late Shift my partner Michael dubis and myself were sent to Mr D's apartment uh to investigate a head which was found in the refrigerator and that apartment was located at 924 North 25th Street in the city and county Milwaukee that's correct sir what apartment was Mr dmer apartment what was the number number 213 did you have occasion at that time to make some observations concerning that apartment yes sir I did but since I've already informed everyone here that we're going to only talk about the statement will limitate that aspect of your testimony to that okay yes sir right did you start talking to Mr dmer about anything while I was in the apartment sir yes sir no sir did you have occasion to transport him from the apartment yes sir I did and who did you transport him with uh in a Milwaukee Police uh van which is used to convey prisoners Squad 93 uh police officer ches and myself so you started taking him down where downtown that's correct sir and he was in custody yes sir he was you advised him of his constitutional rights yes sir I did you told him about all of his rights yes sir did you ask him if he wanted to make a statement yes sir I did and did he make such a statement to you yes sir all right you also advised him that he that he had a right not to have an attorney if he wish said that is correct all right tell us what you said to Mr dmer and what he said to you uh during the time that you were present with him where detective Murphy was not okay yes sir would you like read from from the exhibit if you wish okay sir at this time I wrote along with the suspect Jeffrey L dmer in Squad 93 down to the CIB what that is C it's called the it's uh initials for the criminal investigation Bureau let's the detective Bureau please once at the CIB I advised Jeffrey El dmer of his constitutional rights and he stated that he fully understood them and that he wished to freely make a statement regarding the incident can you tell us what time of the morning night or day was this was approximately 1:00 in the morning okay that would have been on the morning of the 23rd or the morning of the 24th that would have been on the morning of of the 23rd okay continue on please at this time Mr dmer states that he is 31 years of age born in Milwaukee Wisconson he states he moved to Richfield Ohio when he was about 6 years old and he was raised there attended and graduated from River High School he states he spent 3 years in the Army after graduation and moved back to Milwaukee when he was approximately 23 years old or so the subject states he has a father who lives in Pennsylvania and a mother who lives in California he states he has one brother 26 living in Cincinnati and his grandmother on his father's side lives in Milwaukee subject states he was raised in the Protestant Faith as he was growing up but he now considers himself to be an atheist let me just stop you there is this a question and answer type of thing yes sir it is and then later you put down whatever notes you thought were important and then you transcribed him into the form that you're talking about here that is correct sir continue on he admitted that he had been arrested in the past and states he is currently on probation for taking polaroid pictures of a minor subject states that when he was 18 years of age and living in Richfield Ohio he picked up a hitchhiker whom he described as a white male about 19 years of age he States He took him home and had homosexual sex with him and States they were drinking beer and became intoxicated he States they got into a physical fight because the 19-year-old individual tried to leave and that during the fight he states he struck The Hitchhiker with the barbell he states that the blow of the barbell caused the death of The Hitchhiker and at this time he took the body out into a wooded area by his house and left it there to decompose for about two weeks let me let me stop there did you know that there had been such a murder or a homicide that had taken place when he was 18 years of age at the time that you were talking to him no sir I did not so he volunteered Commission of a murder that's correct sir is that the first murder that he told you about yes sir it is and you didn't have him on any other murdered charges at that time did you I realized that there was a head in the refrigerator I understand that you didn't have a murder you didn't say you're under arrest for the murder of no sir okay go ahead continue after pleas he states he returned with a sledgehammer at this time and used it to break the bones and then he scattered them about the woods the subject states he moved to Milwaukee after a three-year tour in the Army and a one-year stay in Miami Florida where according to the subject nothing of this nature happened subject states he moved in with his grandmother at 2357 South 57 Street when he returned to Milwaukee and he states that when he was about 25 years of age and living in Milwaukee he picked up a white male approxim 25 years of age at the 219 Tavern he States they got a room at the Ambassador Hotel and they got very drunk and passed out subject States when he woke up the guy was dead and had blood coming from his mouth let me stop you did you know of that homicide at the time that he volunteered it no sir I did not continue on please he states he went to the mall and bought a large suitcase and stuck the dead body into it he states he called a cab and placed the suitcase into it and went back to 2357 South 57th Street he states that he took the dead body down his basement near a floor drain and used a knife to cut the flesh off the body and then dismember the body placed the various parts into plastic bags and then threw them into the trash the subject feels this occurred in 1984 during the summer he indicates that there had been many times that he has had sex with men where no violence was involved and states that about 2 months after this incident he met a Hispanic male about 18 years of age also at the 219 Club at about 1:00 a.m. they went back to his grandmother's place and had sex and put sleeping pills in his drink he States when the guy fell asleep he strangled him with his hands and took the body down the basement by the drain and used a knife to dismember him and a sledgehammer to break up the bones and then placed them in plastic and threw them into the trash detective Kennedy did you know of that homicide at the time you were talking to Mr dmer no sir I did not continue after he goes on to State about a month later he met a black and white mixed male about 20 years of age at the Lage a Tavern on National Avenue and took him back to his grandmother's house where he had sex and used sleeping pills with him he States when he was asleep he strangled him and then dismembered his body and disposed of him in the same manner as before did you know of that murder at the time you were talking Mr dmer no sir I did not go ahead the subject States a year went by and he met a Hispanic male about 19 years of age at the 219 club and returned with him to his grandmother's house where he again had sex used sleeping pills and strangled him and again dismembered and disposed of the body in the same way once again you didn't know about that homicide no sir go ahead subject states he moved to 808 North 24th Street and lived there for a year and was arrested one time for taking pictures of a minor after one year of work release from the house of correction he moved back to his grandmother's house and lived there for approximately 6 months at this time he moved to 924 North 25th Street Apartment 213 subject states in the winter of ' 89 he met a black male about 24 years of age in front of the bookstore on 27th Street and took him to his apartment where he took pictures of him in various sexual poses and had sex with him and put sleeping pills in a coffee and rum drink which he gave to the black male when the black male fell asleep he stabbed him with a large hunting knife which he described as having a 6-in blade and a black handle he stabbed him in the neck after the guy was dead he put the body in the bathtub and dismembered him he states he used the knife to dismember him the subject states he used a plastic trash container or garbage bag and put the bones in it with hydrochloric acid and let them sit for about 3 days until they turned to a mushy substance and then he flushed them down the toilet the subject states that he feted from the body from the the subject States the flesh he feted from the body he put into trash bags and threw them out you didn't know of that homicide did you time you're talking no sir go ahead the subject States He also starting with the third victim boiled the heads in a cleaning solution and kept the skulls he kept the skulls in the CL closet all identification and jewelry of the victims he states he cut up and threw out into the garbage the subject States about 2 months later he met a black male about 20 years of age around Wisconsin and water and walked home with him and again had sex used sleeping pills which was placed in a coffee mixture and strangled him he then dismembered the body and disposed of him in the same manner as before you did not know of that murder no sir go ahead subject stes he began getting quicker at cutting up the bodies the subject States about 1 month later he met a tall black male about 26 years of age at the s v and they took a taxi home to his apartment and he repeated the same scenario with him but did not boil and keep his head the subject States this was due to time constraints subject States about 6 months later he met a black male about 20 years of age while in Chicago and rode back to Milwaukee by Greyhound bus he States before this he met a Chinese male about 15 years of age at the Grand Avenue Mall this was around May or early June he States they took a bus back to his apartment it was during the day or the afternoon he States the Chinese mail posed for Polaroid photos and then he gave him sleeping pills and the coffee and rum drink after he passed out he strangled him and dismembered and disposed of his body parts in the same way as before once again these last two or three murders he's talking about you had no idea that's correct sir go ahead the subject states that the body parts gave off an awful smell in the trash but no one ever did anything about it so he just kept following his usual procedure of disposal regarding the blackmail from Chicago He states that he repeated his usual actions with him regarding the head in the refrigerator now let me stop you there at the time that you were there and and understanding we're talking primarily about the confession there was a head found in the refrigerator Department that's correct sir it was not identifiable as to whose skull that had been correct not at that time sir okay continue talking regarding the head in the refrigerator he states he met him a black male about 25 years of age at 27th in Wisconsin and took him home and repeated the same actions with him he States about one month ago he bought a 57 gallon industrial drum and began placing body parts in it subject States on about 719 of 91 he met a white male about 25 years of age near Marquette University and took him home had sex with him gave him sleeping pills in the coffee rum drink strangled him and feted him in the bathtub dismembered him and placed the body parts in the industrial drum another homicide you did not know about that's correct sir go ahead regarding the Chinese mail the subject states that after giving him sleeping pills he fell asleep and he the subject went to the bar on 27th Street he states that as he left the bar he saw the Chinese guy running down the street naked and the police saw him and stopped him and he was not speaking any English so he talked with police and said that he was a friend a friend of his and that he was staying with him at this time he took the Chinese guy back to his apartment gave him some more coffee and rum solution with the sleeping pills in it and after he fell asleep again he strangled him dismembered him and disposed of him in the usual way he then boiled his head he States it takes about an hour to boil ahead regarding his last victim he states that his ID can be found in the bedroom of his apartment was that a fact that is correct sir go ahead regarding 723 of 91 that's the the the evening or the early morning hours when he was uh arrested yes sir the subject states he met a black male about 25 years of age at the mall on Wisconsin Avenue he states he offered him $20 in cash to let him take some nude pictures of him once at his apartment they drank rum and he the subject got into intoxicated when you say the subject you mean who Mr dmer okay subject states that he tried to put handcuffs on the victim and the victim ran out and got the police subject states he is not sure what happened next because he was drunk regarding the handcuffs he would ask his victims if they would allow him to take a bondage picture with the handcuffs on and that is how he would get them handcuffed the subject states there is an ID from the mail he met on 27th in Wisconsin in his wallet is that a fact was that a fact yes sir it was go ahead the subject states that all his victims knew that homosexual activity was the idea and possibly pictures at this time after the subject gave me this statement verbally I advised him that I would like to write it down verbatim on paper however before I did so I would like to get another detective to sit in and be witness to this statement he stated he understood and that he wished to cooperate and at this time I went and got detective Dennis Murphy who entered the room and together we reiterated his constitutional rights which he stated he understood and that he wished to wave them in order to help us with this investigation it was during this time that a four-page confession was written out by myself detective Kennedy and read back to the subject who also read it and then stated that it was accurate and true and then he signed it Jeffrey dmer he also initialed each page of the four page confession it should be noted that during this entire time that I spoke with the subject Jeffrey dmer he was given numerous cigarettes four to five cups of coffee two glasses of water two cans of Coca-Cola he was also allowed to use the bathroom upon request this entire confession started at approximately 1:30 a.m. and finished at approximately 7:15 a.m. after the confession was completely written out read over and signed by the subject he was asked if there was anything that he would like to do or if he was hungry he stated that he was not hungry and probably will not be hungry for a long time however he would just like to sit and talk about the offenses a little bit more the conversation which followed at this time has been recorded by detective Dennis Murphy and he will file a detail supplementary regarding what was said during this interview now you understand now that I I understand that you're going to be called back later for additional questioning by either side yes sir but the during the time just just so it's clear he was very Cooperative yes sir he was and he was not intoxicated no sir he was not and he seemed to understand what you were asking him and and and you understood his answers yes sir he did so this was done in in a cqu back and forth and what you're telling us here is you put down these words after you talk to them looking at your notes and then eventually he signed the papers that's correct sir were these the papers that he signed these papers here yes sir no sir okay something else that you wrote out that is correct sir is it exactly the same thing only in handwritten form yes sir it is so you you wrote everything here out in handwritten form Mr dmer read it said it was correct signed it and then you took all of that same information and typed it up and that's what you just read that's correct sir and we'll see you again KY any questions at this time um not at this time um detective Kennedy may be recall a little later okay give me St down detective M thank