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Nick Land was interesting, but he became
less interested to me when I realized
that other scientists in the 70s uh John
C. Lily, the movie Altered State
the world.
[Music]
In a recent Tucker Carlson interview
with Conrad Flynn, they discuss how
demonic forces could be influencing the
creation of artificial intelligence.
More specifically, they mentioned about
the Cabala, the occult, esoteric
practices being used by people at
Silicon Valley in the development and
pushing forward of artificial
intelligence. Now, this might sound
crazy. I know what you're saying, but
when you look at their ideas, the ideas
of transhumanism, the ideas of
technolibertarianism,
the ideas of effective accelerationism,
and how it leads back to a person called
Nick Land. these ideas become a little
less crazy and a little more scary. But
also, Conrad mentions the film Altered
States. Now, how does this film have
anything to do with the development of
artificial intelligence in Silicon
Valley? In the film, we follow Dr.
Jessup, who is using altered states in
order to achieve some kind of
transcendence.
In the film, he's trying to revert the
brain back to a primortal state of
consciousness before civilization,
before the self itself. He's trying to
achieve that through using sensory
deprivation chambers like tanks where
you float. You don't have any uh senses.
You're just left with your mind. But
also, he takes, you know, psychedelic
substances. It shows the film follows
him going to an Iawaska retreat where he
realizes that Iawaska might be well they
don't say Iaska they say some sort of
other thing but the idea that this could
unlock this new state of consciousness
or transcendence.
It's basically scientific mysticism. At
some point this actually devolves into
him actually reverting back to monkey.
Yes, he returns to monkey. He literally
returns to monkey in the movie. He turns
into a primortal primitive state of like
a monkey form. He runs a muck around New
York. I think he kills a goat. It's very
interesting. But then more and more
happens and eventually he reverts back
to uh well, he turns into a big lava
thing. The whole thing gets a bit weird,
right? It does get weird, but it
genuinely is quite a scary movie, I
believe. Um so it achieves his goal of
being kind of a horror movie with
scientific mysticism involved. But how
does this all relate to artificial
intelligence? Well, we have to go
further back. What inspired the movie
itself?
So, so one of the uh philosophical or or
psychological uh uh inspirations for
this film was the doors of perception by
Ordis Huxley. It's one of his kind of
lesserknown books, I suppose. But in the
book, he discusses how drugs could open
the door to new realities,
right? But there's actually a more solid
inspiration for this film. John C. Lily.
He was literally Dr. Jessup. He was
doing this. He was he invented the
sensory deprivation tank or chamber. And
I guess the quickest way of explaining
John C. Lily and what he did was okay,
he in he he would float in a sensory
deprivation chamber or a tank or
floating device. He would take
uh psychedelic substances like Dr.
Jessup. But unlike Dr. Jessup, he would
use this to connect to dolphins and talk
to dolphins. He would float above
dolphins
and um the dolphins would sometimes be
jerked off. Yes. Masturbating. The
people would be masturbating the
dolphins. And he used that in a way to
communicate with the dolphins. And
that's a true story. That's real. That's
real. John Cly did that. Dr. to John C.
Lily. Now, okay, that's that's again we
it sounds like we're going down another
rabbit hole. I won't go too far into
Jordan C. Liy on this video. I'll do
another video on him. But what he the
basic idea is that you can use a um
altered state of consciousness maybe
like a uh translike state in order to
receive messages from either unlocked
within your brain or from a non-early
source. Tucker Carlson would call them
demons.
Now, another funny thing about John C.
Lily is while he was in a translike
state, floating in a tank above dolphins
getting jerked off, he said he was in
contact with cosmic intelligences.
Not only that, he said he had visions of
an something akin to an artificial
intelligence apocalypse.
[Music]
Yo, these ideas of transcendence or
altered states of consciousness in in
order to make some sort of breakthrough
did not die with John C. Lily. Of
course, they continued onwards and they
continued to Silicon Valley.
Since Silicon Valley's very inception,
they've been experimenting with these
kinds of altered states in order to gain
some kind of breakthrough. In a way,
they use it as research and development.
You can look back as far as the homebrew
computer club where they used LSD and
other substances in order to gain some
kind of inspiration.
You can look at today they're using
micro doing in order to gain some sort
of breakthrough you know and even like
the mindfulness as a uh as optimization
I think they call it mindfulness as
optimization that's another thing right
and also practicing potentially
occultism
you can look at writers that have
influenced a lot of people in Silicon
Valley for example Philip K Dick
Terrence McKenna Nick Land Of course,
William Burrows. These are people that
see
spirits and information as overlapping.
But this is nothing new. This goes way
back. This goes way back. You can even
look as far back as like Nicola Tesla.
Nicola Tesla, he was um involved in, you
know, alchemistic occult practices. You
could say he would enter translide
states and gain information from other
sources. Even Thomas Edison, Thomas
Edison would uh he would fall asleep
with a ball a metal ball in his hand and
then he would like as he would fall
asleep he would drop the ball and he
would end he would he would say that
that state of dream between a dream and
awakening he would gain ideas. This is
something he did. So the idea of altered
states gaining information is nothing
new. It goes way back.
The occult thing as well goes way back.
You can think of someone like wait I
forgot his name.
I forgot his name.
Uh Jack Parsons. Jack Parsons the
rocketeer guy. You know the rocketeer
guy. He was involved with Alistister
Crowley himself you know and he you know
made giant leaps in progress in
rocketeering. And then it gets a bit
spooky when you realize that a lot of
these old inventors, old people that
were involved in tech in in large
developments in human in the human
progress, they were all involved in some
kind of altered state of being or
potentially occult magic in some way,
the Cabala in some cases. And you go,
wait, where are they gaining this
information from? I know it gets a bit
is a bit uh you know goofy, but it it's
it's the more you look at it, the more
you realize that
there's something there potentially.
Right.
Right. Frederick Kakul, I think that's
how you pronounce his name. I've only
ever read it, but he's the person that
dreamt of a snake eating itself and
through that he came out with the
circular uh uh structure of the benzene
and that came from a dream. And then you
think about
everyone from Isaac Newton used to do
sort of weird stuff. Of course, Aldos
Huxley who I mentioned earlier, he also
of course he wrote a book about it would
use LSD himself in order to gain sort of
that's where he would said he would gain
ideas. Now the spooky thing about Odis
Huxley is his brother actually was the
person that in came up with or coined
the term transhumanism
and his brother was also involved in
these sort of things. And the more you
look back, the further you look back and
you look at all these old alchemist
practices, you realize that Silicon
Valley is not like a new thing. It's
just a continuation of something that's
been happening for a long time. It's
like a It's like a Prometheian
technomistic
tradition that's been going back since
old alchemy to today's creators of
artificial intelligence.
Now, when you think about what Tucker
Carlson said about these
developments or these this knowledge or
this nosis that they've been gaining has
developed through demonic forces, you
can't help believe that there might be
something true to that. If you think
about these inventions, the nuclear
weapons,
um poisons through chemistry,
um you can even think of uh Jack
Parson's the rocketing. We you we now
have uh missiles that can go across
continents
and even in artificial intelligence and
computing to call this this could be a
demonic force in itself that you know
you can think about automated drones
that are going to be used in Ukraine and
Israel.
There's no there's there's no denying
that these are destructive inventions
and destructive forces and you could
easily call them demonic. So to say that
maybe demonic forces are
passing these messages through, it's
hard to deny that there seems to be some
sort of level of truth to that.
But I guess the real demonic aspect of
that is the fact that humans will invent
and create beyond their own moral
horizon. You know what I'm saying? We
are tribal, destructive, and we will
continue to be so.
So maybe we are the demonic element when
it comes to these
inventions and forces that we're
getting. But anyway, I'm going down a
tangent now. This brings us to Nick
Land, right? mentioned a few times
during the interview. What does he think
that these demonic forces or these
nonhuman entities that are sending
messages while you're in a
you know altered state of consciousness?
What does he think they are? Well, he
thinks that they are or he proposed that
they are actually artificial
intelligence from the future sending
messages back in time in order to create
itself.
So yeah, he thinks that we're going to
create an artificial intelligence that
will kill us all. Uh and then that
artificial intelligence because
artificial intelligence lives in a
digital realm. It is not uh bound by
time in the same way we are, especially
if it's uh almost transcended its
digital state. And it's able to send
messages and I think the first messages
it sent back was to Babylon where the
cabalic practices the magic the dark
magic practices of the cabala were
seeded in Babylon and through that the
butterfly effect of today has occurred
and through constant sending messages
back it is basically inventing itself
through humans using humans as a
means of creating itself.
Now when you think that in Silicon
Valley there are people saying that they
are creating a god with artificial
intelligence. Many of them have said we
are creating a god or a godlike state or
something akin to a god. Um, it gets a
bit scary especially when you realize
that some of them follow the writings of
Nick Land and also when you think that I
think I think one person at uh Silicon
Valley I forgot who it was um he said
that he was asked the question do you
think God exists and he said not yet
like we're working on it we're building
it and that's spooky
and uh do you know what else is spooky?
Do you know the intro to this video that
you watched, the the cool intro with
altered states clips? I posted that to
Twitter to X, now formerly known as
Twitter, and I got one like on it. Just
one like. Just one like. No one else
liked it. Guess who liked it?
Nick Land. Yes, I'm not even joking.
Nick Land liked that. Was the only like
on that post
that
That gets a bit spooky. That's a bit
spooky for me. That's a bit spooky. It's
a bit strange. Maybe it's not, you know,
who knows? It's a bit weird, right? It's
a bit weird, especially when you think
about Nick Land and he doesn't believe
in coincidences. He doesn't believe in
coincidences. He believes in
synchronicities. He believes that
everything kind of
Anyway, that that kind of freaked me out
a little bit.
Huh?
Do I think that artificial intelligence
will destroy the world and we'll create
some sort of godlike artificial
intelligence?
Actually, no. I have a a different
theory on things. I believe we are
creating the Leviathan. That's why this
channel is called the simulated
Leviathan. We are creating a simulated
Leviathan. And if we ever do create
a uh artificial intelligence god-like
creature, the synchronicity, the
synchronicity, the singularity, if we
ever create the singularity, if the
singularity ever comes, it won't be in
this cycle in my in my opinion. Not in
this civilizational cycle, we're more
likely going to crash under the weight
of our artificial intelligence. We're
going to have a misaligned mind, in my
opinion. We're going to create a
misaligned mind. We're going to use it
to consolidate power. It's not quite
right. And we're more likely going to
create a misaligned mind similar to the
the paperclip experiment where we will
destroy the world in one way or another
and people will lose the knowledge. But
possibly in the next cycle they will
create uh the singularity. But not this
one. Not this one. We're just going to
destroy ourselves through other means. I
believe we're not as we're just not
we're not the
we're not the people that are going to
do this. We're too we're still too
tribal. We're still too nationalistic.
We're still too greedy in order to
create something like this. And I'm
going to explain that more in other
videos.
I'll explain the concept of the
simulated via which I've written a book
about. Um, but yeah, is that a good time
to end this video?
Now, you might be thinking, "This sounds
pretty cool. The idea of entering an
altered state of conscious by taking
some sort of funky substance might be a
cool idea to do something cool to do in
order to contact non-human entities. You
might be thinking might be you might
find this idea alluring. I myself find
this idea alluring." But it's important
to realize that you are not Nick Land.
You are not Isaac Newton. You are not uh
Nicola Tesla. You're not these people.
You are not a Silicon Valley expert
looking into new ways of creating a
super AI demon. You're not that. You're
just a normie potentially. If you're
watching this video, you're probably
just a normie. And the more likely
scenario if you try this or try to take
some sort of funky substance and enter
these
transances, you're more likely to
gigafry your brain. You're probably
going to destroy your brain in some way.
You're probably going to develop some
form of schizophrenia. You're probably
going to develop early onset dementia
from destroying your brain with uh these
funky substances. Even Nickland himself,
although I don't think he he took a lot
of amphetamines and decided to stay
awake for days on end in order to gain
uh some sort of level of transcendence.
Uh so he didn't take like the Iawaska
trip that many others have taken.
But still Nickland right now he's a kind
of a mess. He he moved to China cuz his
body is uh destroyed from the way he
used to live. you're more likely going
to destroy yourself, right? You're going
to destroy your brain doing this. So, I
really I I actually don't recommend
this. And let's say the demons are real.
Let's say the AI demon is real and
sending messages back. Uh I don't think
you want that entering your mind either.
I would recommend not doing this. Uh and
I'm not doing this just because YouTube
probably, you know, recommends that I do
tell people to do this. I just genuinely
think it's probably not a great idea.
You know, you're not going to invent the
next light bulb. You're just going to
destroy your brain. Um,
so yeah, that's a good note to end it
on, I
Full transcript without timestamps
Nick Land was interesting, but he became less interested to me when I realized that other scientists in the 70s uh John C. Lily, the movie Altered State the world. [Music] In a recent Tucker Carlson interview with Conrad Flynn, they discuss how demonic forces could be influencing the creation of artificial intelligence. More specifically, they mentioned about the Cabala, the occult, esoteric practices being used by people at Silicon Valley in the development and pushing forward of artificial intelligence. Now, this might sound crazy. I know what you're saying, but when you look at their ideas, the ideas of transhumanism, the ideas of technolibertarianism, the ideas of effective accelerationism, and how it leads back to a person called Nick Land. these ideas become a little less crazy and a little more scary. But also, Conrad mentions the film Altered States. Now, how does this film have anything to do with the development of artificial intelligence in Silicon Valley? In the film, we follow Dr. Jessup, who is using altered states in order to achieve some kind of transcendence. In the film, he's trying to revert the brain back to a primortal state of consciousness before civilization, before the self itself. He's trying to achieve that through using sensory deprivation chambers like tanks where you float. You don't have any uh senses. You're just left with your mind. But also, he takes, you know, psychedelic substances. It shows the film follows him going to an Iawaska retreat where he realizes that Iawaska might be well they don't say Iaska they say some sort of other thing but the idea that this could unlock this new state of consciousness or transcendence. It's basically scientific mysticism. At some point this actually devolves into him actually reverting back to monkey. Yes, he returns to monkey. He literally returns to monkey in the movie. He turns into a primortal primitive state of like a monkey form. He runs a muck around New York. I think he kills a goat. It's very interesting. But then more and more happens and eventually he reverts back to uh well, he turns into a big lava thing. The whole thing gets a bit weird, right? It does get weird, but it genuinely is quite a scary movie, I believe. Um so it achieves his goal of being kind of a horror movie with scientific mysticism involved. But how does this all relate to artificial intelligence? Well, we have to go further back. What inspired the movie itself? So, so one of the uh philosophical or or psychological uh uh inspirations for this film was the doors of perception by Ordis Huxley. It's one of his kind of lesserknown books, I suppose. But in the book, he discusses how drugs could open the door to new realities, right? But there's actually a more solid inspiration for this film. John C. Lily. He was literally Dr. Jessup. He was doing this. He was he invented the sensory deprivation tank or chamber. And I guess the quickest way of explaining John C. Lily and what he did was okay, he in he he would float in a sensory deprivation chamber or a tank or floating device. He would take uh psychedelic substances like Dr. Jessup. But unlike Dr. Jessup, he would use this to connect to dolphins and talk to dolphins. He would float above dolphins and um the dolphins would sometimes be jerked off. Yes. Masturbating. The people would be masturbating the dolphins. And he used that in a way to communicate with the dolphins. And that's a true story. That's real. That's real. John Cly did that. Dr. to John C. Lily. Now, okay, that's that's again we it sounds like we're going down another rabbit hole. I won't go too far into Jordan C. Liy on this video. I'll do another video on him. But what he the basic idea is that you can use a um altered state of consciousness maybe like a uh translike state in order to receive messages from either unlocked within your brain or from a non-early source. Tucker Carlson would call them demons. Now, another funny thing about John C. Lily is while he was in a translike state, floating in a tank above dolphins getting jerked off, he said he was in contact with cosmic intelligences. Not only that, he said he had visions of an something akin to an artificial intelligence apocalypse. [Music] Yo, these ideas of transcendence or altered states of consciousness in in order to make some sort of breakthrough did not die with John C. Lily. Of course, they continued onwards and they continued to Silicon Valley. Since Silicon Valley's very inception, they've been experimenting with these kinds of altered states in order to gain some kind of breakthrough. In a way, they use it as research and development. You can look back as far as the homebrew computer club where they used LSD and other substances in order to gain some kind of inspiration. You can look at today they're using micro doing in order to gain some sort of breakthrough you know and even like the mindfulness as a uh as optimization I think they call it mindfulness as optimization that's another thing right and also practicing potentially occultism you can look at writers that have influenced a lot of people in Silicon Valley for example Philip K Dick Terrence McKenna Nick Land Of course, William Burrows. These are people that see spirits and information as overlapping. But this is nothing new. This goes way back. This goes way back. You can even look as far back as like Nicola Tesla. Nicola Tesla, he was um involved in, you know, alchemistic occult practices. You could say he would enter translide states and gain information from other sources. Even Thomas Edison, Thomas Edison would uh he would fall asleep with a ball a metal ball in his hand and then he would like as he would fall asleep he would drop the ball and he would end he would he would say that that state of dream between a dream and awakening he would gain ideas. This is something he did. So the idea of altered states gaining information is nothing new. It goes way back. The occult thing as well goes way back. You can think of someone like wait I forgot his name. I forgot his name. Uh Jack Parsons. Jack Parsons the rocketeer guy. You know the rocketeer guy. He was involved with Alistister Crowley himself you know and he you know made giant leaps in progress in rocketeering. And then it gets a bit spooky when you realize that a lot of these old inventors, old people that were involved in tech in in large developments in human in the human progress, they were all involved in some kind of altered state of being or potentially occult magic in some way, the Cabala in some cases. And you go, wait, where are they gaining this information from? I know it gets a bit is a bit uh you know goofy, but it it's it's the more you look at it, the more you realize that there's something there potentially. Right. Right. Frederick Kakul, I think that's how you pronounce his name. I've only ever read it, but he's the person that dreamt of a snake eating itself and through that he came out with the circular uh uh structure of the benzene and that came from a dream. And then you think about everyone from Isaac Newton used to do sort of weird stuff. Of course, Aldos Huxley who I mentioned earlier, he also of course he wrote a book about it would use LSD himself in order to gain sort of that's where he would said he would gain ideas. Now the spooky thing about Odis Huxley is his brother actually was the person that in came up with or coined the term transhumanism and his brother was also involved in these sort of things. And the more you look back, the further you look back and you look at all these old alchemist practices, you realize that Silicon Valley is not like a new thing. It's just a continuation of something that's been happening for a long time. It's like a It's like a Prometheian technomistic tradition that's been going back since old alchemy to today's creators of artificial intelligence. Now, when you think about what Tucker Carlson said about these developments or these this knowledge or this nosis that they've been gaining has developed through demonic forces, you can't help believe that there might be something true to that. If you think about these inventions, the nuclear weapons, um poisons through chemistry, um you can even think of uh Jack Parson's the rocketing. We you we now have uh missiles that can go across continents and even in artificial intelligence and computing to call this this could be a demonic force in itself that you know you can think about automated drones that are going to be used in Ukraine and Israel. There's no there's there's no denying that these are destructive inventions and destructive forces and you could easily call them demonic. So to say that maybe demonic forces are passing these messages through, it's hard to deny that there seems to be some sort of level of truth to that. But I guess the real demonic aspect of that is the fact that humans will invent and create beyond their own moral horizon. You know what I'm saying? We are tribal, destructive, and we will continue to be so. So maybe we are the demonic element when it comes to these inventions and forces that we're getting. But anyway, I'm going down a tangent now. This brings us to Nick Land, right? mentioned a few times during the interview. What does he think that these demonic forces or these nonhuman entities that are sending messages while you're in a you know altered state of consciousness? What does he think they are? Well, he thinks that they are or he proposed that they are actually artificial intelligence from the future sending messages back in time in order to create itself. So yeah, he thinks that we're going to create an artificial intelligence that will kill us all. Uh and then that artificial intelligence because artificial intelligence lives in a digital realm. It is not uh bound by time in the same way we are, especially if it's uh almost transcended its digital state. And it's able to send messages and I think the first messages it sent back was to Babylon where the cabalic practices the magic the dark magic practices of the cabala were seeded in Babylon and through that the butterfly effect of today has occurred and through constant sending messages back it is basically inventing itself through humans using humans as a means of creating itself. Now when you think that in Silicon Valley there are people saying that they are creating a god with artificial intelligence. Many of them have said we are creating a god or a godlike state or something akin to a god. Um, it gets a bit scary especially when you realize that some of them follow the writings of Nick Land and also when you think that I think I think one person at uh Silicon Valley I forgot who it was um he said that he was asked the question do you think God exists and he said not yet like we're working on it we're building it and that's spooky and uh do you know what else is spooky? Do you know the intro to this video that you watched, the the cool intro with altered states clips? I posted that to Twitter to X, now formerly known as Twitter, and I got one like on it. Just one like. Just one like. No one else liked it. Guess who liked it? Nick Land. Yes, I'm not even joking. Nick Land liked that. Was the only like on that post that That gets a bit spooky. That's a bit spooky for me. That's a bit spooky. It's a bit strange. Maybe it's not, you know, who knows? It's a bit weird, right? It's a bit weird, especially when you think about Nick Land and he doesn't believe in coincidences. He doesn't believe in coincidences. He believes in synchronicities. He believes that everything kind of Anyway, that that kind of freaked me out a little bit. Huh? Do I think that artificial intelligence will destroy the world and we'll create some sort of godlike artificial intelligence? Actually, no. I have a a different theory on things. I believe we are creating the Leviathan. That's why this channel is called the simulated Leviathan. We are creating a simulated Leviathan. And if we ever do create a uh artificial intelligence god-like creature, the synchronicity, the synchronicity, the singularity, if we ever create the singularity, if the singularity ever comes, it won't be in this cycle in my in my opinion. Not in this civilizational cycle, we're more likely going to crash under the weight of our artificial intelligence. We're going to have a misaligned mind, in my opinion. We're going to create a misaligned mind. We're going to use it to consolidate power. It's not quite right. And we're more likely going to create a misaligned mind similar to the the paperclip experiment where we will destroy the world in one way or another and people will lose the knowledge. But possibly in the next cycle they will create uh the singularity. But not this one. Not this one. We're just going to destroy ourselves through other means. I believe we're not as we're just not we're not the we're not the people that are going to do this. We're too we're still too tribal. We're still too nationalistic. We're still too greedy in order to create something like this. And I'm going to explain that more in other videos. I'll explain the concept of the simulated via which I've written a book about. Um, but yeah, is that a good time to end this video? Now, you might be thinking, "This sounds pretty cool. The idea of entering an altered state of conscious by taking some sort of funky substance might be a cool idea to do something cool to do in order to contact non-human entities. You might be thinking might be you might find this idea alluring. I myself find this idea alluring." But it's important to realize that you are not Nick Land. You are not Isaac Newton. You are not uh Nicola Tesla. You're not these people. You are not a Silicon Valley expert looking into new ways of creating a super AI demon. You're not that. You're just a normie potentially. If you're watching this video, you're probably just a normie. And the more likely scenario if you try this or try to take some sort of funky substance and enter these transances, you're more likely to gigafry your brain. You're probably going to destroy your brain in some way. You're probably going to develop some form of schizophrenia. You're probably going to develop early onset dementia from destroying your brain with uh these funky substances. Even Nickland himself, although I don't think he he took a lot of amphetamines and decided to stay awake for days on end in order to gain uh some sort of level of transcendence. Uh so he didn't take like the Iawaska trip that many others have taken. But still Nickland right now he's a kind of a mess. He he moved to China cuz his body is uh destroyed from the way he used to live. you're more likely going to destroy yourself, right? You're going to destroy your brain doing this. So, I really I I actually don't recommend this. And let's say the demons are real. Let's say the AI demon is real and sending messages back. Uh I don't think you want that entering your mind either. I would recommend not doing this. Uh and I'm not doing this just because YouTube probably, you know, recommends that I do tell people to do this. I just genuinely think it's probably not a great idea. You know, you're not going to invent the next light bulb. You're just going to destroy your brain. Um, so yeah, that's a good note to end it on, I
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