Ex-Fox News Analyst Reveals CIA Ties to Jihadist Training Camps and ISIS

Paul thank you so much for joining me today I want to start by discussing your own personal career because you went

through sort of a revelation as someone who self- describes as a former neocon who actually started to understand that

perhaps the way that the world worked isn't quite what it seemed and some of these so-called jihadists and Terror

groups weren't actually really just enemy combatants were actually being supplied and protected by our own CIA

Sean I swallow the the red p but I don't want to uh I was writing I was I was on Fox News all the time all

the time I was writing books that were very successful one called osama's revenge in next 911 another one called

uh Al-Qaeda Brotherhood of Terror broke on and on and on I was a neon in favor of the war thinking that oh man we even

had to go into Iraq believing the whole thing and what happened was uh I was a reporter an old reporter I own the

newspaper and uh as a reporter I was not getting my news from the internet I had to go out in the

field so the first place I went was a uh Islamic paramilitary camp in New York state called islamberg now if you go to

islamberg it is probably worse than anyone can imagine because they have underground bunkers they're training

with fully automatic weapons uh when they're finished with the training most of these recruits the young recruits for

they're being trained at islamberg and by the way there's at least 35 other compounds like this throughout the

country on once they're finished with their training they go to Pakistan and from Pakistan they go into Afghanistan

and they fight of course you know the US troops so I went there at least five times I was the only one that actually

went in there I mean I went in there with a with with with a camera guy by name Pat Walsh weigh about 400 pounds

but he was very very very brave the pictures that you us see of of Islam bird we took we saw the underground

bunkers we saw the training we we even heard the explosion the explosions that were going on there

well what I found out was a lot of these people uh from islamberg when they came back believed that they were and they

were financed by the CIA that's the first thing I found this is the the head of the camp a guy by the name of shake

chelani who's from lore Pakistan and has set up all these camps throughout the country came here with uh blind Shake

Grumman on uh a CIA transport he came here to recruit young blacks young black Muslims for the Jihad they set up these

training camps and when they were done originally they went to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets but that's still going

on these people are still being trained in the funding is this is what I discovered my first this is how I came

to a a bit of reality that the uh CIA was funding this operation not only this operation and that explains it why they

could persist day after day night after night training these people to become jihadis and to fight over there right

without taking action against themc because the FBI know and I worked for the FBI for years did anything about it

but so when you broke this story and ISL obviously you say 35 other camps training camps for militants that are

going on here uh you know when you would approach let's say for the official story from FBI or CIA what story would

they give you as to why these tra these camps were allowed to operate without being raided they couldn't they couldn't

explain it there was absolutely no explanation and once again I worked with I had contacts in the FBI I worked for

the FBI I was paid by the FBI for 10 years now the second thing I found when I started looking into a guy by the name

of fatula gulan now you and I are very much interested in gladio and you know how strategic gulan is to the entire

gladio 2 gulan has a compound in sers sburg Pennsylvania less than an hour from where we're sitting about 40

minutes from my house well I went up there as well at his compound in saarburg it was very similar to what was

going on in islamberg they were training doing paramilitary training the play they they were armed to the teeth

uh they were all coming in from they from Turkey uh the neighbors had complained and nothing was done nothing

was ever ever done they talked the the neighbors were complaining about the helicopters flying around their po

properties for surveillance night and day they complained about the explosions going on in the property the sound of

gunfire and of uh of AK-47s nothing was done so then I discovered now this was rude really

really really what what dropped the scales from my eye eyes gulan when he applied for his permanent residency in

the United States he was thrown out of turkey as you know uh for trying to overthrow the the Turkish government

this this is going back to 1998 he was thrown out of turkey and just like galani he's transported this is the guy

called the most radical uh most dangerous Muslim in the world transported

from Turkey to Washington DC originally on a on a CAA transport I I discovered that and I figured this is insane this

is insane and the next thing I found out find out is the camp the the camp that he had at sburg was once again backed by

the CIA and his movement his uh Islamic schools throughout the country throughout the world as you know and in

all the schools in Central Asia are CIA agents well then I find out I looked at his uh when he applied for the Green

Card what happened during the court uh hearings well representative uh uh Martin abramovitz uh who was the former

US ambassador to Turkey grah Fuller who was very instrumental in the CIA come up saying this guy this guy Sean is one of

the most important educational figures in the world he's a religious figure he can bring

around about uh Interfaith dialogue he can bring a new age of Peace he has met with the Pope this guy is this guy can

walk on water fatula gulan we have to keep him in the country fatula gulan never wrote one word he has a third

grade education uh never wrote a textbook or anything he he is uneducated but he's calling for a new Islamic order

essentially right and there's also the allegation that Eragon made when there was a Keta attempt last year against

Aragon he said it was gul's Network that was responsible which would obviously hearken back to us support because gan's

based here but do you believe that or do you think that Eric igon was actually just using that as an excuse to

consolidate his own basically dictatorial Powers within turkey I think Sean what's going on there around the

Caspian Sea is well first of all if anybody thinks that the United States has any Allegiance or that any loyalty

to gulan is crazy gulan is Expendable they needed gulan to establish radical medras throughout Central Asia

Kazakhstan turkistan even azerbijan all these stand countries because they surround a lot of them surround the

Caspian Sea at the caspan sea are the greatest resources of oil and natural gas and uranium in the world we can't

allow these resources to be taken by Russia we can't allow them be to be taken by China we want them not not the

United States but the money cartel within the United States needs these natural resources right so what they did

was they they Ed gulan to set up to to begin something called a a pan Turkish movement because everybody in the St

countries you know were once part of the Ottoman Empire they speak Turkish they they have a Turkish background Turkish

culture they're all Islamic so you see gulan with his message could unite all these people at least according to the

to the CIA and that's why we back them right right so now you mentioned gladio earlier let's talk about gladio because

obviously there's the historical aspect of gladio which we know has to do with stay behind armies basically the fascist

elements the post in the postor War era the former Nazis and basically fascist groups that were being utilized by the

Western intelligence apparatus of NATO and basically were used not only as stay behind armies in case of a Soviet

invasion but often times were engaging in Terror attacks in the west to then blame on various leftist whether it's uh

red Brigade or socialist parties right to basically try to uh create political shifts internally in the west yes uh

matter of fact as you know like during gladio 1 the years of lead in Italy when there were these horrific bombings uh

even the bolognia bombing positive Fontana they were all done by uh really uh the the stay behind units the gladio

units spurred on by the CIA funded by the CIA and all these attacks were blamed on the Communist and of course

the Communists were completely completely completely you know uh innocent so it it was a ploy but we not

this not only in Italy but we've the you know the in in uh in Germany the hurg bombing throughout Latin America I mean

the the dictatorships the dirty war in in Argentina this was all part of gladio and the the figures that played in

gladio at that time were incredibly interesting because one of course is uh Jose Maria bergolo who is uh Pope

Francis the current pope because he was well precisely no one really know can account for what he did during the Dirty

War in Argentina which was brutal obviously saw the execution of so many uh people who were considered leftists

right socialists um of all ages right right uh the priest who would support the uh Liberation theology I mean you

got to realize he turned out turned over two of his priests not only the members of their congregation but the priests

themselves turned them over to the Hun where they were tortured for months and months and months where members of their

congregation were loaded on on on transport helicopters flown over the ocean and dumped off this was all part

of of Pope Francis and it was all part of gladi o1 right which of course never ended when Francis was a cardinal

basically sorry he was just a regular Bishop at the time no he was a provincial general of the Society of

Jesus he was a Jesu I see just one of the generals but so this obviously Glo does hearken back to Italy a lot of the

apparatus of the finan well let's say the the not only financial apparatus which you cover in your book about the

moneya laundering that go that went through the Catholic Church uh the Vatican Bank historically but also the

ties to the mafia who were obviously connected to the drug world and then that tied them to our own intelligence

particularly CIA that was engaging in the traffic whether it was heroin and opium from the Golden Triangle during

the Vietnam War years or during the Afghan war in the 80s obviously seeing a lot of the Opium profits uh opium being

laundered from Afghanistan through turkey and the profits being laed to the Vatican Banks so where does where do we

ultimately stand as far as understanding the relation reltionship of gladio past to present gladio never stopped it never

stopped uh most recently uh it it concerns the op the operations of gladio 2 are are

focused in Central Asia central uh focused in uh not only turkey but Syria Iran I mean that's where the focus is

and uh for a while it was it was Libya but uh it's still going on that has never never never stopped but what are

the indications that we can be sure that it's continuing okay beginning with let's begin with just one going back to

19 98 we had the bombings of uh the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania Tania uh

we know that right now all the documents have come out that the person that that the press and the CIA said uh was guilty

of perpetuating Comm during these acts was a guy by named Muhammad Ali like the fighter Muhammad Ali right he was from

California he allegedly turned radical and he joined Al-Qaeda and then he he bombed the embassies well what really

happened is this guy was not taking part in uh in the activities in Afghanistan or Pakistan at all he was on US military

bases being trained once again by Army intelligence when he was finally captured really by mistake he was

brought on trial and guess what happened he disappeared disappeared go poof Into Thin Air right then you have of course

the the Mysteries surrounding 911 you got false flag attack which is a characteristic of

gladio look at Saddam Hussein uh look at Gaddafi look right now about Assad every day it goes

on Assad right now oh he's creating new weapons of mass destruction he's creating chemical weapons so we have to

bomb them again this is all gladio you see it it it it it false flags that have no basis in reality at

all and yet the American people buy it time and time in time again right so you talked earli about the Caspian Sea

region obviously binski before he passed away in the 9s wrote about the grand chess Port concept

and the importance of Central Asia and controlling Central Asia because it's the underbelly of Eurasia the Russians

and the Chinese to the east uh Europe to the west but there's this tremendous um uh Bank of oil basically oil and natural

gas that seem to exist yes particularly in the Caspian region so would you say that the conflicts that we're seeing

from the US in Afghanistan to the obviously the desire to oos Assad in Syria has to do with natural gas

pipelines at the end of the day absolutely Sean you got to realize that even the the Afghan war the Soviet

Afghan war you see uh the Soviets in the 1970s they didn't know that that oil and natural gas were were were uh uh lodged

with such great great great wealth right around the Caspian Sea and of course Russia borders the Caspian Sea so when

they when they made that Discovery in 1970 and the and the Caspian Sea is

landlocked it's not you know connected to any ocean so you have to you have the problem of getting the the oil and the

natural gas out of the caspan sea to a harbor to a port where it can be transported well the Russians needed

going back in 1979 where they realized that they had found this these great reserves of uh and of course these these

like Kazakhstan and azerbijan and and uh and te Turkmenistan were all part of the Soviet Union at that time so they could

you know they could but the problem of creating the pipeline was going through Afghanistan where they met resistance

and that's why that that really counts for the 1979 Invasion that's the economic reason but once again going

back to the 1990s you had people like uh unical unical uh oil company which was affiliated with with Standard Oil all

the big oil Giants in in the United States and going that when they they brought the Taliban they brought our

money people and our Bankers brought the Taliban to power provided them with the arms provided them with the military

expertise and the training okay and once the Taliban took over Afghanistan in 1996 they were transported all the the

members of the Taliban including Mula were were transported to Texas to meet with the official from unical about

creating this pipeline we want the this at this time unical wanted the towel ban to protect the pipeline right and to to

keep the other Warlords away from it so that it could it could flow once again from uh Turkmenistan through Afghanistan

into Pakistan to right around Cabo where there's where there's a port but that deal fell apart that deal exactly but

that deal it no Sean it never really fell apart they backed up because the Taliban was

getting whed and D by the Chinese and by the Russians and by every everybody else and their head started to spin so the

the the the the uh Taliban was indecisive that's why the embassies had to be bombed and the al-Qaeda had to be

made synonymous uh with the Taliban so but so they're basically setting up with this

war but have we seen the expansion or the the proposal to actually build these pipelines since the the US has been in

Afghanistan since 2002 now have we actually seen any development on that front yes it's going on right now as

we're speaking I mean as we're speaking I mean unfortunately most people in news that I

speak to and I was in news all my life uh are very dumb and you know even if you talk to them about the caspan sea

they they couldn't find it on a map and once you say oh a pipeline is being created right now by Amo and these oil

companies through Afghanistan you know so what they don't realize the real significance of that and they don't

realize the significance even when it comes to Iran Iran's right on the Basin of the caspan sea so it becomes

strategically important for the money cartel for the CIA for us interest for the US economy to control all these all

this wealth all this wealth from the Caspian Sea so you got Iran right next to Iran you have Northern Iraq what we

took out Northern Iraq you know and well now Northern Iraq is being occupied by ISIS and it seems that every time

there's a major a major uh Push by Assad's regime or the Iraqi regime to actually depose the Isis base we get

then an allegation that immediately pops up of chemical weapons being used and then US forces start to shift you know

again against against the Assad regime right I could scream I could scream I could scream because number one I know

very rarely talk to anybody that's insightful but but this is what happened and you know it and uh and you know

what's happening uh right now with that with with that whole situation it's uh uh we created

Isis I mean Isis is no less than uh the people up in islamberg no less than gulan is a CIA creation I'm John McCain

For Heaven's Sake was over there with the with the Isis officials we created them they came from the al- nurai group

the uh Syrian Liberation Front the these two organizations combined and they they they morphed into Isis it's our creation

we create them we still direct them when Isis Warriors are injured in in battle where are they transported they're

transported For Heaven's Sake to Israel they're treated by the Israelis and Israeli hospitals and brought back to

battle well plenty of the rebels have admitted acknowledge that they've been supported by Israel and they they've

thanked Israel for helping them throughout in fact arms are often times caught Israeli arms are caught on you

know on route to The Rebel groups but when it comes to this then the grand scheme the grand chess board game

obviously we're seeing the neocon strategy West Clark talked about it destabilize and overthrow the

governments of Iraq Somalia Sudan Libya uh Syria Iran I mean this was the strategy that he talked about over 15

years ago and obviously we've seen it come to fruition to a large extent uh but what is there the the game is

ultimately is it just continuing to to destabilize The Sovereign regimes that that oppose the will of the various

Financial oil conglomerates or is it to create just total chaos in this entire region well the ultimate goal of course

is money wealth you know real wealth comes from natural resources our our money is you know just fabricated it's

not backed by anything MH but real wealth comes from natural resources be gold uh be it oil uh be it heroin which

is the third most V commodity in the world right now another reason we're in Afghanistan but

uh the end of the game the game can be is is being played to be won it's not not a game that will go on at infinum

it's being played to win so that at the end of the day the money cartel from the United States primarily it's really an

Anglo American establishment British and US yes but at the end of the day they

control the natural resources Russia's dependent on it so Russia of course you know if if you're depriving it of

Natural Resources you're rep you're depleting all of its power the same thing with China so uh know the end of

the game is is total economic control of the world MH and then what do we make then of these Terror attacks that occur

in in the west let's say in London or in um Brussels and Paris um obviously it has it RS of gladio in the sense of stud

students of gladio obviously would say wait a minute you have this kind of mass shootings and bombings and various

staged events they were you know during glal period we know they were blamed on the leftist groups but actually it was

the fascists that were that were conducting it you're talking about various of the jihadists who are being

run by CIA operatives and may themselves be full full-blown CIA operatives um what is the agenda then that you see

taking place with these attacks in you know in the west okay once again Sean you got to realize that I I come at this

differently than most people because I I did my homework I me I'm an old Irishman I like to fight so I went to Brooklyn

for instance to the FR mosque I went there I I mean I didn't just go there I went in the mosque got on the elevator

went in the mosque uh I talked to people there they wanted to throw me out and everything else but I found out this

that the fruit mosque which is called the most radical mosque now in the country you got to realize like like

like the uh the uh the the assassination of uh uh Rabbi Kahani uh originated there you got to realize that the

attacks of 1993 on the World Trade Center originated there you got to realize that these people have been

accused of raising $428 million a year for Al-Qaeda right there okay this is what I discover from the Faro MOS and I

hope that the CIA is listening because she if I'm lying and should grab me by the neck and throw me The Slammer the

the this is the most radical mosque in the country if a if a terror attack comes it's going to come from either

islamberg or a place like this right they have been receiving since the time of the Reagan Administration a

mosque right here in New York millions of dollars a year and the place is used as an Arsenal during during uh every

Saturday and every Sunday they remove weapons from the fug mosque and they go to the firing range and they

practice and again it's basically to stay behind Army in a sense in case of our own stay not not stay behind stay

here Army right but I'm saying but it would be in case they want to create some sort of Terror event some sort of

domestic unrest a martial law scenario oh absolutely you name it you need these type of secret armies we've seen the

secret armies in the US going back to the Cubans when we had the Cuban secret armies we deployed around the world

people forget you had obviously again the gladio arm in Europe all these things are secret armies and so why not

have secret armies within the Islamic World our own and we can train them in places like islamberg and everything

else and guess what do you know how easy it would be in a city like this to really have a an attack that would be

horrific beyond measure a radiological event all you need to do is get some cesium which is common you can get it

from a food processing plant from a hospital just cesium one grain of that is a bone sucker if if one grain got on

this building they couldn't rip it down they couldn't wash it off they'd have to take this place to a to a dedicated

landfill for it because it's so dangerous all you need to do is wrap some cesium forget about forget about an

explosion around a firecracker Set It Off on that street what would happen yeah goodbye New York and but based on

your on your research of gladio I mean it was essentially the attacks were always designed to shift political

allegiance I mean what was the idea it was ultimately financial and political abolutely and you know if that happened

in New York they they have the perks perks already here you you know what would

happen martial law would be the least of it yeah well it's a horrible endgame

scenario we have to hope it doesn't get to that level but obviously we've seen the the greed of the of the financial

sector of the military industrial complex of the desire as you say to dominate and control the resources of

the planet so we don't know where it can end and obviously what can happen next even in this

country it it it can only end with global economic control has no end except

there it's very sobering Paul I appreciate you coming on today and talking with me and sharing with your

information and your research yeah thank you shine thank