Why This Video Exists
AI moves fast. A course from 3 weeks ago is already outdated. You need to keep learning, pivoting, and taking action. This is the updated curriculum for selling AI in 2026, with no scripts, just the real sauce.
The Three Niches You Should Target
You need to focus on three specific niches to build a sustainable AI agency. Don't try to sell a generic "voice AI receptionist" to everyone.
1. Your Background
- Use your existing industry knowledge (insurance, real estate, high ticket sales).
- You already know the pain points and speak the language.
- Build one solution, then sell to competitors and similar businesses.
2. High-Ticket / Private Equity Backed
- Target businesses with millions in the bank (oil & gas, PE firms).
- Charge $8K–$15K upfront for a build-and-release model.
- Offer more than just a tool: overhaul websites, backend systems, and CRMs.
3. Evergreen Growth Niche
- Peptide clinics, stem cell clinics, med spas.
- Smaller deals ($1K–$5K) but steady daily cash flow.
- Requires constant outreach and calls.
Key Insight: The same voice AI sold to a solo detailer for $500 can be sold to an enterprise detail franchise for $10K+. Always target upstream.
How to Get Clients: Omnichannel Outbound
There's no secret, you need to do everything at a high level.
Outbound Channels
- SMS: Use power dialers, send blasts, track responses.
- Email: Prioritize deliverability, use platforms like Apollo or Try GTM for lists.
- Phone: Hire commission-only setters to rip through lead lists.
- GTM Agent (New): Automates lead intent, outbound copy, and booking calls.
Inbound Methods
- Content: Post audits or demos on Twitter/X and LinkedIn.
- Referrals: Partner with industry coaches (e.g., detail coaches) and offer them 20%.
Pro Tip: Start with outbound to build systems and confidence. Once dialed in, run ads to scale.
The Demo Closing Call Framework
This is the most important skill. Forget scripts, use a framework. If you want to master this, check out the Ultimate Sales Blueprint: 6 Key Elements to Close More Deals.
Pre-Call Setup
- Pre-handle objections before the call (e.g., "You're the decision maker, right?")
- Send nurture assets: case studies, authority-proof LinkedIn.
On-Call Structure
- Set the call, Explain how it will work, confirm decision-maker.
- Pain → Logistics, Understand their business, bottlenecks, and goals.
- Push goals, Don't just expand pain. Push their goals further (e.g., from $100K/month to exit to freedom for family).
- Commitment & urgency, Why AI? Why you? Why now?
- Pitch & close, Then handle objections if needed.
Rule: Never put words in their mouth. Use their own words to build connection.
The Arbitrage Model: Your Secret Weapon
You have access to 25+ developers who can build anything. The spread is enormous:
| Service | Dev Cost | You Can Charge | |---------|----------|----------------| | Voice AI setup | $650 setup + $45/month | $5K down + $1,800/month | | AI Dashboard / CRM | $350–$700 | $10K+ |
How to make clients love you:
- Be hyper-responsive (pick up every call/text)
- Use a professional onboarding portal (e.g., Lumina)
- Artificially create success milestones (Day 1, Week 1, Month 1)
- Always be the AI expert, break their limiting beliefs to upsell
LinkedIn Authority: Your Free Client Magnet
- Headline: Directly state who you help (e.g., "I help oil & gas businesses with AI systems")
- Banner: Simple city skyline + professional headshot
- Connections: Aim for 500+, it signals credibility
- Posting: Post often. LinkedIn is easy to go viral on. Use follow farming tactics.
Reality check: Clients will Google you. Make sure your LinkedIn is the first thing they see and it screams authority.
Final Advice: Track Everything
Stop hoping for the next deal. Know your numbers:
- Dials per day
- Booked calls
- Close rate %
- Average deal size
When you track, you know exactly what actions produce what results. That's how you become a true professional. For a deeper dive into closing strategies, see the Ultimate Sales Guide: Master Closing, Overcome Objections, Scale Teams.
So, I made a five hour course last time and it it's like at 10K views in the last two, three weeks. Uh, but it's been
two, three weeks and an AI that's decades. Like, I watched that video back yesterday and a bunch of stuff, it's old
already. We already have better strategies. Um, more than ever, I want you to take a look at yourself in your
own life. You one year ago, so dumb, right? So naive, right? Didn't know what you were doing, right? you one year in
the future, you're gonna say that about yourself now. And for me, I always that's why I'm always hungry to learn
and I'm always down to pivot and see the new thing, make the new thing work. So, in this video, there will be way
different curriculum than the first. Uh I wanted to share with you guys, especially in AI Front Runners, we cover
so much that I'm just trying to give you guys the pieces that I think are important. Uh all my videos are uncut,
unscripted. I just want to give you guys the sauce. If you're part of my audience and you're rocking with me, I just want
to help you guys get rich off AI. There's a gold rush. Um, and don't miss it. Don't pretend like selling websites
or selling go high level is selling AI. It's not. You're missing the entire gold rush if that's what you're doing. And if
you're just watching bunch of YouTube videos and doing nothing, you're just watching us all get rich. So, in this
video, I want you to actually take action. Pull out your notebook. I want you to add me on Instagram, Timcha.
um at me. Take a picture of your setup, whatever your notes, and at me and I'll repost it. I want to see you guys work
hard. We're in founder mode right now. What founder mode is is working 12 hours a day minimum focused work, 6 days a
week, 30 days straight. And I promise you, if you do that, uh you're going to pop out next month way richer.
If you think about it, you guys are just selling AI. You're just selling some sort of AI that the devs can do to
certain niches. All right? I don't want you guys to just sell like voice AI receptionist to everyone. I want you
like just to serve plumbers and what AI can we sell plumbers, right? Voice AI, AI CRM and the AI website with chatbot
um AI aggregation system attribution AI leads to mark you can act as a marketing agent ran by AI. There's so much that
are developers inside AI front earners can do right. So you guys have to go to that um dev's channel and see that
entire list of everything they can do, right? And then match it, go to Claude and then upload it and be like, "Yo,
this is everything my developers can do and then I'm in the plumbing niche. Why do they need each of these things?" Rank
it in order of what they need based off their pain point. And then you can craft your offer around that. Right? So first
you have to understand what you are selling. Right? This is voice AI receptionist
um AI CRM AI leads plus lead syncing. What else you could do? Plus lead
nurturing and enrichment. We could sell them uh yeah website plus chatbot.
What else we could do? AI SMS and email reactivation. we could build them an entire SAS [snorts]
does so much more, right? U it's something that you know we have over 25 developers for you guys and I often say
when you're talking to a business and they're like oh but this is impossible we would love for you to build this but
it's impossible. I'm like yeah would you pay us 10k if we make it possible? because our developers can do magic
guys. Like they can actually do anything.
Uh but these are the main things that we sell, right? But you got to realize who are you selling to, right? Your niche is
matters a lot, right? Immediately I always tell guys to start in three niches.
So the first one being your background. So for me, I know tons about the insurance industry, about the high
ticket industry, about real estate, specific wholesaling, and I already have connections in these
few industries. So you got to think like what are your friends in, what have you done? Do you have some sort of knowledge
or expertise? Like you already know how to fix this with AI. Build it out once and then you can go to
all the other competitors and likeminded businesses and sell it to them, right? Right. So for me, I have a pretty
extensive background in insurance and high ticket and because of that I could easily sell these huge um agencies
insurance AI CRM. I could do automated follow-up lead nurturing even to the booking. Um even in high ticket building
people SAS user bases like you have to be able to speak their language and these should be
you know I always say like your first lead list is right in your contacts. you already got like a couple hundred in
there. There's a couple hundred leads. They either need AI in their business or they know someone that has a business
that needs AI. You can kind of strike a deal with them. But in the three niches, the first is just something in your
background. You can figure out what AI can be implemented. You can speak that language. You're an expert already,
right? So that gives you an advantage. The second is high ticket usually backed by primary equity. And
for me this is oil and gas and also P firms themselves. So for high ticket this is just if you
think about it if they're backed private equity if they've raised before like they have millions in the bank right
they need AI installed in their business and they're very willing to pay contractors to get certain things done.
I know that a lot of students like tell me they'll be like oh Mr. Oh, I want MR Tim. I'm like, dude,
>> your service turns in like four to six months. Your MR is 1K a month. >> I'd rather just charge them like 8K, 15K
down. Build and then release and so I can upsell more stuff. But even with the oil and gas, we do entire website and
then backend office overhaul. Um, all their what their VAS use and we just create some something custom to them.
Usually, if you think about it, like go high level and all that stuff works. Um, but does it work perfectly towards them?
The reason why I really also don't like go high level is it has everything but everything is just mid. Like people have
go high level but still use type form, right? Go high level has forms. Why would they use type form? People have
GHL and they'll still use Calendarly. It's a better booking system. They'll have GHL but you still use Twilio. It's
better SMS. They'll use Convert Kit, List Kit, right? It's just it doesn't do everything at a high level. And when you
look at the tracking from it too, it's like like okay like it's it's kind of valid.
I think it's it should be the C should be a little higher than that versus >> powering it with AI so all of the
information and data is accurate so they can make a strong decision for their business. Um so just think what's high
ticket, right? Usually this is enterprise accounts u bigger companies and even though this is like just one or
two deals a month I would love a 35k cash injection one or two times a month wouldn't you? U I take a good amount of
calls for these. My close rate is kind of low but it's I know it'll balloon just more and
more deals. The referral game in this is ridiculous. like these companies. It's the thing I love about selling AI is
like it's really easy for you to actually help the companies get massive results, right? Like if I give them
proper AI attribution and tracking systems for their business and the overhaul of their front end and the
website and their intake form, like how would they not make more money? >> No, I don't actually have a good real
disc client discovery. That's good. My bad. My bad. No, you're my bad. [laughter]
>> Apologies. I I hit the wrong button. Does >> anyone have any questions though? So
far, about these two things, these two niches. Any questions? >> No.
>> I bet. Just chime in anytime you want. Okay. And then the third is ever evergreen,
ever growing. And for me that's peptide clinics, stem cell clinics, med spa clinics.
And even though these aren't massive deals, there'll be like one to threek, maybe four, 5k deals.
I know that every day my team should be taking calls or you guys should be taking calls and be trying to sell,
right? It should be everyday money. Imagine how much you would make if you had you can go to your background
and sell them AI. You could go high ticket and go work on those enterprise accounts and start building the proof,
building the pages, building the systems for it. And also this ever growing where you're just like, hey, I should be
booking a couple calls a day. I should be talking to people trying to make these sales every single day, right? So
it it allows you to become, you know, when people join AI front runners, guys, like I want you guys to become true
professionals. And the way you become a true professional is tracking. So you don't feel like, oh, you know, guys will
come in and close their first couple thousand dollar deal and then another thousand deal here, 4K deal here, and
they feel like they're just hustling for the next deal. I want you guys to become true professionals by tracking. Once you
track, like you won't have to feel like, oh, I'm just like, when is the next one going to come? when is versus like, hey,
I know that if I do this many dials, if I send this many things, if I go to GTM and create this many agents or book this
many calls and my close rates this percentage, I know I will make this amount, right? We're in this business to
make for sure money, right? Like I have a couple friends that are traders. >> Um, and it's like it's speculative
money. Like it's, you know, you have green days or red days, but I like when there's a process and there's actually
numbers that we can look at to scale. Um, and with these three niches, you got to realize I'm selling different AI in
these different niches. And even though people, sorry to interrupt you.
>> Go ahead. >> But like when it come to when it comes to high ticket sales, uh, I mean high
ticket sales like as an industry, right? >> Yeah. >> Would you say cuz I have some background
in there. Is it more just like texting sales managers and people like that or offer owners? Cuz it's pretty hard to
get to offer owners, right? I mean, we're targeting not just you're saying for my niche for high ticket,
>> not their like bug. Okay. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, my background is in high ticket. So, I've I know a tons of info
guys, offer owners, sales managers, a good amount of them. And when it comes to selling them software, selling them
some sort of AI powering it. It's always the offer owner themselves. Like, they they have to be the one that makes the
decision, right? Let's just say it's like a ecom offer owner or a trading offer owner, right? They teach people
how to trade. It's like, okay, do you have an algo bot? You want to buy a trading bot from us? Right. Oh, where do
you host your community? Do you want us to build a custom user face and interface for your community? Oh, do you
have like we could do a good amount, right? Even with ecom guys, it's empowering them and their client base
with AI. So, it could go pretty deep. Does that answer your question. >> Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
>> Yeah. Got you. >> Yeah. >> But I know I know that you're you're in
the high ticket sales industry. It's just like if you know a good amount of people, what are the quick fixes? Right?
Garrett is super smart. One of our head coaches, he does over a mill a month. He started setter stack. He knows so many
coaches and they DM so many people. He's solving a really big pain point because many chats. All right.
You know what I mean? Like if we could custom AI for them, they're going to pay you the big bucks. Going to pay a good
amount, right? That leads to kind of a perfect uh entryway into what I wanted to talk
about of like you could sell the same AI in the same industry but be making wildly different money, right? If you
think about it, let's just say I'm selling a voice AI receptionist to detailers, right? These detail if they
someone calls, they need a detail and they don't pick up, they're just going to call the next person. Usually it's
emergency services are the best. Like plumbing, HVAC, like they need it now. So if you don't pick up, you're actually
losing money. So, you can have a voice AI receptionist pick up on first ring. Uh, and let's just say, let's use the
voice AI example for details. You could sell to just some new kid on the block who's just like still washing the cars
himself. And you're like, hey, dude, you want a website? Give me 500 bucks. Hey, you want a voice receptionist? They're
like, oh, I don't have enough leads anymore. Like, I like no one calls one or two people a day. Like, I don't need
that. versus a enterprise franchise like go detail swash and actually building out systems in your business. We're
going to go into the sales ops. We're going to dive in. But building systems in your business
that will allow them an enterprise business to buy from you. They have money. They can pay for it. They
understand the product. They probably need so many accounts that the usage will allow you to charge more. Right? I
could still be serving detailers, but what kind of detailer? I could be stelling voice AI, but how do I actually
position my authority, right? Luminina Joe, Rakis, the frontr runner devs, guys. Like, dude, they're amazing at
what they do. Like, if you I've sat in their VCs and they talk about like, dude, but this model has like 350
millisecond latency without hallucination on like this specific cloud model or 11. Bro, they got it.
they can make it extremely well, especially now we're moving in towards the end of 2026. Like, this [ __ ] is
really good. Like, the tech is so good. Um, and with so much customization, like I'd rather you guys target upstream. If
you're just beginning, sure, you could strike those little deals just to get the hang of it, to get the hang of
reaching out to the lead, getting them on a demo closing call, collecting the money, giving a fraction of it to the
developers, making sure they're happy, doing it again. Like sure, but I just want you to guys to keep this in mind.
You have to you have to ascend. Like that's how we sell these big ticket high ticket stuff, right?
Um and for each of these things now, you guys can go to claude and match this to this. Why would let's just say peptide.
Why would peptide clinics need this? Why would they need these things? Cuz let's just say you want to dive into the
niche, right? But you don't know all the angles. I know all the angles. They want website chatbot because if it gets taken
down for two days and they do 100k in rev a day, they're down 200k. Woo commerce, they'll they'll take you
down if you're reo they will. Or for example, um for chatbot, why do they need chatbot? Well, it could educate
them on what pep stack they need. It could upsell them backwater. It could upsell them needles.
How would you not make more money right in that niche too? I understand that it's kind of uncompliant. So, not a lot
of people run ads, so they just have affiliates. And they also need affiliate CRM.
What happens when people have different percentages? What happens when you guys run a BOGO deal? What happens when it's
not a BOGO deal anymore? What about the uh Christmas pricing? The processor change from 5 to 15%. It ranges. How can
we truly track numbers, profitability, revenue, who drives what to where, just using automations? You need us to build
you a CRM powered by AI to give you accurate data so you can make strong decisions for your peptide business. And
because I'm in that niche, I know their two biggest problems as well. They have really bad sources and their payment
processors are well either hold them or you can't just sell peptides using Stripe. You can't just sell peptides
using Shopify. And because I serve that niche, I have connects to resources and processors
that when I give it to them, I get a percentage off and I'm making money because I'm in I'm in these niches. I'm
just niche specific. So, I know how I can serve them with AI or just serve them in general and make a lot of money.
I have a tons of PE firms, friends, like college friends that have dads that are in private equity and I pay them for
consulting. Bro, these dudes are like 2K an hour. Uh, and not only do I get them to tell me how to make my ex my agency
more exitable, but I ask them, "Okay, once you buy my business, what the [ __ ] are you doing
with my business?" And stuff like this, right? They go horizontal. Try to sell them everything, right? Having data and
having that book of business is so important. But, okay, any questions about what you're selling and who you
are selling to? There's just so much variability. You could sell to paint manufacturers, street light lamp
cleaners, grease cleaners, um chemical power plants, like anything. Like it could be anything. But any questions,
guys? >> Yeah, I got a question. >> What's good, Joe?
>> Uh I kind of agree with you on the fact that like you should have a niche, but like I'm coming at it like from
different areas of like business. So, like how do you like kind of handle different niches if you don't understand
fully? >> You just have to understand all of the niches you're hitting fully. If you
think what's the total adjustable market of just one of the niches you're serving. If you just own 1% of that
market, bro, you're doing a mill. Just focus on that. Why not, right? Like I always joke like or I don't even joke.
It's not even a joke anymore. It's like if you're not detailing this, just just quit. Change niches. There's no point.
There's already titans in that industry. Like what? Chat closed a 10K paint manufacturing
AI overhaul. Like bro, like who is doing that? >> Like probably five people in the entire
world. Like um >> yeah,
>> and the devs can do it all. It's not like you have to learn a new I have to build it. The devs can just do it.
>> Joe's nice. Raky's nice. Front runner devs are nice. You know what I mean? >> Yeah, I know what you're saying. Even
though maybe you don't you're not niche specific yet, just slowly add things, but like make sure you actually start
understanding a lot more about these niches. If you just talk to Cloud for one hour, it'll do you like it'll do you
so nice. >> You say like understanding your offer better.
>> Understanding your niche. >> Okay. Under >> why they would need it. Like you ask
what are their pain points? Why would they buy this? Why wouldn't they buy this? Who's the correct market within
this niche? Who's the wrong people to sell this to? What's the true pricing? What? Like you can ask it just a bunch
of questions to get context. Does that make sense? >> No. Yeah. I've done that up to like more
like kind of getting the offer down on my service >> because it it'll bend per per off per
niche. You know what I mean? Like when I sell Voice AI, the pricing is different for a Chinese restaurant than a dent
repair company. You know what I mean? >> Underset. >> Yeah. But because the pricing is
different, I don't just want to change the pricing. Like the offer itself has to be valid.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I can guarantee you exactly. Exactly. Um >> Okay.
>> So, we're going to get to the business model of how to get clients. Okay. I always say it's like Kung Fu Panda. The
secret is there's no secret, right? You just have to do everything at a really high level, right? Maybe the GTM [ __ ] is
new [ __ ] Wait guys, look at the new page. Y'all rocking with it? end to end AI that books calls. You
literally just prompt it and it's going to just book you calls. Um, we figured out how to tie it to it's
we're so ready. Get the leads intent, do the outbound, write the copy, get the booked in.
We're cooking, guys. We're cooking. We're cooking. Um, but in general, generally, traditionally, there's no new
ways to get clients, right? It's SMS, email, uh, phone, outbound, ads, SEO.
It's it's it's nothing revolutionary, right? U, but we have to do it at a
extremely high level, right? Because like in each thing in SMS, let's just break it down, right? In SMS,
we do outbound SMS blasts. You can think about it. What do we actually text them? How many times do we
text them? >> Yo, Tim, just one more question. >> Is it blue or green text?
Do they coincide with emails and calls? Are we how are we tracking it? Right. So, it's
funny like people will be like, "Oh, I tried SMS. It doesn't work." I'm like, "Yeah, how much did you spend? I spent
20 bucks." So, get the [ __ ] out of here. Like there's no way Twilio's a billion dollar company off SMS that doesn't
work. It's just like when people say, "Oh, I ran ads. It doesn't work." It's like what do you mean? Like Meta is a
trillions of dollar worth company cuz people run ads. That's the only way they make money. We pay Zuck to get ads on
Insta, Facebook, WhatsApp, whatever. So, uh, everything works. You just have to work it, right? Um, so the SMS, um, for
email, it's I I'd say email is very similar. Um, just be careful about deliverability and then where you get
your list from. Um, typically for list grabbing, um, it'd be Apollo Play, try GTM for sure. We have a really good lead
enrichment system. Uh, and then you'll have the list to do this. And when it actually nurtures when
you when you every time you're trying to enrich, right, the enrichment gives you name, phone, email,
website, and then ours keeps on LinkedIn, too, right? So, we can do the proper outbound. If you think about why
outbound works so well, it's cuz let's just use the paint manufacturing niche as example for chat. It's like if you
type in, let's do it. Paint manufacturing AI implementation. a platform for process manufacturers.
This isn't it. This isn't it. Well, this isn't it.
I mean, what is the what is the competition even doing monthto monthth by consumption?
What is there like three competitors in this niche? So underserved. [ __ ] I might hit the
niche. [ __ ] I might hit this niche. Um, but you get the list. You can do SMS, email. So, why outbound works? Okay, why
outbound works is because these companies, they can just go on a website just like I did and say, "Oh, I'm a paid
man. I need ad implementation." And they see this and it's just like, "What do I do? What am I even reading? How does
this even save me time or make me more money?" Right? So, people don't even go that step far. Like there's I would say
there's basically nothing, right? You could go like if you if you did type it like oh detailing AI like implement
there's going to be a lot, right? But in underserved niches like they can't they can't go just find it. So, it's valid
for you to email, call, hit them up, SMS, do outbound to get connected with them, but you have to show authority and
show that you guys have done it and can do it again, right? That's why I let you guys and AFR runners arbitrage me and
the other some of our other guys' success and our case studies because it's like, yo, I'm going to be working
on with the accounts with you guys. I'm literally your partner. Just arbitrage all the case studies. Uh
but yeah, I mean it's like because that doesn't exist. They're actually receptive. They're very receptive to
buying from it. Like it makes sense. Like they're like, "Oh, you guys do that. We've been needing that. What do
you guys actually have?" And then you do the demo closing call and you show them. Maybe it won't be a direct phone call
close, but it'll be valid enough for you to for them to bring it to the correct person or the jump through the hoops of
decision- making to get to that point, right? Um, RGTM agent will be a big one because it will find the lead,
enrich the lead, custom funnels, forms, outbound on socials, email, and SMS to get them both on calendar. You get AI
summary of how to sell them. SEO is really good if you could rank on websites just like I just did a search
blah blah blah AI implementation blah blah blah AI integration just you know you can use AI to do a
bunch of SEO um and then ads I always do ads last um I've made multiple six figures in AI just a off AI
deals using zero dollars of ad spend um I truly think that if you Do do run ads though? Do static
frontfacing front facing. I'm going to explain what that means. Front facing offer AI is the
vehicle. What I mean by that is if you're selling voice AI receptionist to plumbers. Let's use that example again,
right? My ad doesn't go like I will sell I I have a voice AI that can pick up all the calls and get people booked in so
you don't miss any money. It's more like plumbers, I will book you 15 more jobs in the next 30 days or you get your
money back. And how we deliver that when they go to the next page is we have voice sessions that can pick up this, do
this, do X, Y, and Z because you have ABC problem that will give you DEF money. Your pitch has to be clear. You
have that's why you have to know your niche, right? Like uh for example, you have to speak, you
have to do the math with them like how many calls do you miss a day? Let's just say it's like five. How many do you miss
a month? Then it's about what? 150. Let's just say 50 of them are real. A third of them. 25 of them would have
actually bought on site. If your average order value is 200 bucks, what's most 25 times 200? That's how much you're
leaking a month in money. Couple thousand, right? Pay us a couple thousand instead. It's low couple
thousand to save multiple. It's a mid-figure multiple thousand. And you don't have to and you can save time. You
don't have to pick up the phone. And it's perfectly tracked in a CRM so you can make better decisions. like know
your niche a little bit better and always do the math with them. But with the ads, I always say to do all of this
like we like outbound method first because if you do the outbound method and it works, once you run ads, it's
going to blow up your business. It will it will ask curve your business. Obviously, all of these things work. But
why I describe that is because with outbound you could create your systems, create your sales teams, what does your
pre-urture look like, pre-all assets, thank you page, getting uh FAQ videos recorded, uh custom SMS and email before
the calls are dialed in. Like you already know how to close, too. You got a dialed in sales process. You you
understand how to fulfill with the dev. You're confident in the dev. Like once you've built and done this stuff without
the risk of spending money on ads, then you run ads, then it'll work better, right? That's why guys think ads are
like magic. And if like I just post something and I get money, like clients will just come to me and they'll just
start throwing me money. It's like you need a dial and funnel, thin lander, thank you. Like you need all of that
there. Like these are the gears in the business. Like that's why I say it's there's only there's there's no secrets
to this. This is just what people are doing. But me, Garrett, Archie, Raky's, we have so many coaches in here, guys,
that will give you the correct background, will give you the correct because you're selling in different
niches and different AI. Like, you need different eyes on it. And we're all doing over six, multiple six a month.
So, it's like, we got you guys. We'll give you a clear idea of how to pivot your messaging, your copy or videos to
be able to get to the point of the sale, right? So this is all the starting point but we
get them on a demo closing call. Okay. On the demo closing call, uh I guess this is why people a good amount of
people join front runners is like you know maybe we have really technical guys like we have uh software engineers like
Amazon and Stripe in here and they still come to us to learn what to sell, how to sell it, how to build out the logistics
and the offering like the closing calls might might be the most important part, right? I was thinking the other day
while I was having dinner, I was like, why am I able to close these 10K deals and some of the students are struggling
closing like 500 deals, 2K deals, 3K deals, and I thought about it. We're offering the same thing cuz our devs are
the same. I use front runner devs, too. Um, I use Joe, too. I use Raisy's too. Like, um, the only difference is I'm
just better at sales. Like, my system is the same. I just can speak to the customer and close them. Like I could
set up positioning authority and actually close them, right? It's kind of funny. They think I'm just like some
Asian nerdy kid on the call, but I'm a closer. I closed over 10 mil my first three years, made over a million dollars
and then built sales teams and then made two people ran two sales teams over a mill a month and now we're running my my
own and teaching you guys how to do this. So the closing call is so so so so important, right? What happens before
the call? What pre- nurture assets? What beliefs do we have to break?
Um what else? Uh um how do we set authority past work right before the call? We just want to
remove start objection handling pre-handling objections right on call. This is I can talk to I can go within
all these niches and close within all these niches and make my brain flip because I don't have a script. I have a
framework, right? So, it's just set the call, let them know how it's going to work, let them know who you are,
and then pain logistic, understand their business,
then their bottlenecks, bottlenecks, and then goals.
Push goals further. So, what I mean by that is like when you're selling stuff that's so expensive, like it becomes a
pretty emotional buy, right? And people are very emotional about their business. But people that gap between pain and
where they want to be, they're paying you to help bridge that gap, right? So, when you're talking about the pain, a
lot of people like to extend that bridge through expanding pain or like, you know, how does this make you feel? Why
how long you've been struggling with this? What have you tried to solve it? And why didn't it work? Why are you
still like they'll try to push pain without understanding you could push a goal really far, right? Like of course
you can go on both ends like but you want to focus on goal because let's just say oh why do you want this implemented?
Oh we just want to hit 100k a month with our business and we think that this can save us more time to allocate time to
doing this that can drive revenue to xyz. Cool goal awesome goal you're like 50k away awesome good goal but it's like
okay but what like why do you want to get there? like what point do you want to be a couple years down the line? Oh,
we want to exit, right? Oh, it's a much bigger goal, [snorts] right? If we can help you implement this AI to get to the
point to take the have time to do the activities to exit is very valuable. And then what's beyond exiting? Why do you
want to exit, bro? Why do you want to get rich? Oh, I want to do this for my fam. I got kids on the way. Oh my
goodness. Like that's a really wide gap. Um and then after that it's commitment and urgency not only on why they need AI
but why you right so it's like why are they committed to getting AI implemented why are they committed to working with
you why are they urgent to do it now why are they urgent to do it now with you um and then you pitch close and then
objection handle if necessary right usually the noobs the new sales guys will look at my calls and go ah Tim just
got the good leads it's unfair there like he just does some [ __ ] It's like no, it's just to the untrained eye. It
could seem like a lay down, but I pre-handled all their objections. When I set the call and I'm like, "Hey, this is
how it's going to work, right? I'm going to ask you a couple questions. I'm going to tell you what we have and then you
can make a decision on the call, right? I don't I don't have time to [ __ ] Let's just get it done." Um, and usually
there I'll be like, "And you're the decision maker, right? Like it's just you." And they're like, "Oh, I got a b I
got other founder, but he's he was busy." I'm like, "Okay, we got to reschedule, right? These are decision-
making calls. I want to make sure both of you guys are here. I don't want to repeat myself. Right. Oh, I'm just a
decision maker. Okay. So, you can make a like I'll give you enough info where you can basically give me a [ __ ] yeah or
[ __ ] no. Yes. Right. So, I pre-handled. Oh, I need to talk to my partner. Oh, I need to talk. Right. I've pre-handled
for time. Usually somewhere pain logistics. I'm like, oh, so you need your time back. Okay. and implementing
this like like basically throughout the entire call you can think about each objection someone can give you and where
you can remove that objection right for commitment urgency it removes I need to think about it they literally just told
me I need this now because XYZ I'm so urgent to get this done today because of ABC how would they give you
that objection right and stop don't put words in their mouth you have to ask the correct questions to get them to
vocalize that does that make sense guys like you cannot Not you can I repeat you cannot just put the words in their
mouth. It's like neural linguistic programming. You have to listen to what they say and use their words to use
their words to speak in their world. So actually connects. Does this make sense so far guys?
>> Yes sir. >> Yeah. >> What's good Pierre? What's good Joe?
Good to see you guys in >> What's up bro? How are you? >> I'm just doing a quick run through of
everything so it could be clean. But like do you have any specific techniques how to motivate cold callers?
Yeah, >> because you know it's pretty expensive [ __ ] to pay them base salary in the
beginning. >> Don't pay don't pay them base. They're all commission only, right? So you can
you you yourself can hit the phones, get the lead list. I'll get an auto dialer, a power dialer that can just rip through
the phones or just keep on dialing people until someone picks up, right? Uh rip a a power dialer and just start
talking to people. But think about it. If you could go and scrape using parameters and get 10,000 leads,
brother, it'll take you weeks, months to hit all of those leads. You could bring on a 100 zero commission only, zero down
commission only phone setters and get them to rip it. Tristan hired 200 at once. In two weeks, it became 12 cuz
people suck. People disappeared. People gave up. Of course, it happens. Churn is nasty.
>> Is nasty. Um, but it works, right? I have setters for OMG. >> Like they just hit the phones for me all
day. But the better leads you give. So usually how I incentivize them is this, right? You ask about how I incentivize
them. The best setters get the best leads. If you're at the top of the leaderboard,
you're getting my SMS email respondents. The people that respond to my SMS blast and email, you get them. So you can call
them. You could set them for me. And they're hot, right? So that incentivizes them to just want to hit the leaderboard
on amount of dials and amount of book calls, qualified book calls, right? So, this is outbound, but there's also
like these are inbound. Technically, other inbound methods I'll add is content. Like we had a kid,
>> he posted just audit uh or or a demo and audit on uh Twitter, did 4K views, he had over 100 DMs like you'll build this
for me, right? That's inbound. Also, referrals when you refer upstream, right? So, let's just say you're selling
the detailers. Instead of going to cold calling and outreaching to all these detailers, outreach to detail coaches,
you're like, "Hey, I'm going to sell all these your 100 students this AI CRM. I'll give you 20%."
Immediately, that's like, should it be a good amount? Or PPF companies, tank companies that have huge list of
detailers, and you tell them who you are, what you do, they'll create a division for it, and you can go sell
with a referral, with a percentage. There's inbound methods, too, right? But we want to do all of it. People will
say, "Oh, what do I start with?" Do all of it at once. You need all of it omniresent, right? Just try little
things. Just slowly build build. It's brick by brick, guys. That's why I tell when people join front runners, I tell
them straight up, I can show you cool [ __ ] in a couple days, weeks. If you want to do this, right? I need a couple
months. We can actually build this business. You can we can make some money, right? It takes time to develop
these things and develop the skills to be able to identify what's good, how to track, how can I make the decisions.
That's why we have coaching calls every day for you guys. Like, let's look at it together, right? I have to look at your
numbers. I have to. That's the whole point. Uh but how to get clients, the demo closing call, and then that bleeds
into the handoff, the arbitrage. This is what makes us makes us amazing at what we do. I'll add
like what AEO, AI, SEO. I think of that because because we
arbitrage, we could offer anything. Our devs can do anything. When I speak these companies, I'm like, "Yeah, I have 25
developers. I You guys do too." You know that the front runner devs works for you guys,
right? Like whatever you guys close, they're ready. They're like, "We got 25 gladiators ready to cook."
And even in my clinics niche for six months straight, I just processed through Stripe. I've been in the
business for six months. Not a single refund chargeback dispute. And all of them is handled by Racky's Joe and the
Front Runner devs. They do great work. Go sell the [ __ ] out of it. We're helping these businesses. They stick.
They love us. They love what we do. We change these businesses, right? So, because we arbitrage,
you guys have to look at the the devs the dev sheet, right? Like the dev sheet says voice AI is like what, guys? It's
like 650 to set up, 45 a month in maintenance. You guys can be charging what 5K down uh what 1,800 a month.
There's your spread for AI dashboards and CRM. They charge our guys will go like 350 to 700.
I charge 10K plus. Like I was on uh Tik Tok live the other day closed at 10K CRM. Who did I go to?
500 Devs. Got it done. Next deal, right? So this arbitrage you have to be careful
like of when you close the deal that you're absolutely communicating extremely clear with the devs what's
getting built out right. So, for example, because of that, we have a Fathom notetaker in our calls that then
zaps to a notion with full transcript and summary so the devs know what's up. And on onboarding
when we book, we have them fill out an extremely long time form or you know we have Lumina for
you guys where you could just when people pay me 10 grand I don't want to just send them a time form and be like
yo fill this out give us more info. I with Lumina you can create a custom portal so they can put in all their data
with a really clean website. They can also with your domain custom to your domain. It could also have a timeline
like, "Hey, our devs are doing this. They're doing this almost delivered." It'll have a literal timeline that when
they update, it will they can automatically see this live. So, you can be more hands-off when someone pays me
10 grand for something. I want them like it's like like luxury concierge like they get stuff like that versus me
texting them, oh yeah, where's your database? What software did you use for this? But there's a clean onboarding
system, right? When you guys joined AI front runners, it wasn't just I here, here you go. It's, yo, this is what I
want you to do. This is the timeline I expected you to do. I artificially create success, right? When I onboard
for AI serum, I know first day, first week, first month, what does it look like for them? What do I have to hit
them up, follow up? What do I need to complete for them to be super happy so I can upsell them? [ __ ] right? Even for
y'all, there's artificial success timeline. When you first minute in, you say hi, you say what's up, you meet
people. First hour in, you're able to take a look at some stuff. First day in, you're able to talk to your first few
people, join your first call. First weekend in you meet some people, get some stuff set up. First month in, you
close your first deal. You have to artificially create this success so people can actually reach what you're
selling them, right? Because with my pricing model, I'm build and release. I like getting paid big money down, not MR
recurring. And if I want to do more business with them, I need to knock it out the park. and how I knock it out the
park. How to make your clients love you is be super responsive whenever they text call
pick up, be fast, be professional. Um, you know, whatever in delivery, whatever is about the service, you are
giving them your full effort with the correct knowledge. Um, you can ask us if they have questions, right? Um, and then
actually be the AI expert. If you can talk AI, if you show them cool stuff, you can break their limiting beliefs,
they'll pay you for more AI, right? Um, so genuinely this is the entire business model. We want to run it back.
There are so many things where it's like we're always trying to optimize. Business always feels like, oh, one more
thing. Oh, one more thing. Oh, if I add this, then if I That's just how it works, right? Even I got friends running
multiple multi-million dollar a month companies and they still feel like it's just like,
"Oh, but there just one more thing." Oh, we're about to crack it. We're about It's It always feels like that. You guys
just need to build build and get better at some hard skills. Like this hard skill is what you guys need to be the
best at, right? That's why some of you who are setters, closers, and have a sales background, I literally tell you
guys AI the best [ __ ] to sell. This is what I mean. Like the these can this can be all automated. You can just replicate
our entire system for all of this. Fulfillment won't be a bottleneck for you, right? You you guys just need to be
dialed in on the sales stuff. LinkedIn reviews. Hell yeah. Okay, I'm going to talk about LinkedIn, how important it
is. >> Um, I made my first six multiple six figures in deals just off my LinkedIn. I
had no domain. I had no website. I said, "Go and look at my LinkedIn." That's all I did. I would send them my link to my
LinkedIn, be like, "You can check out who I am and what I've done." So on LinkedIn, I want you guys to
basically have something clear. I help oil and gas business. It used to be something different. Can I go on my
It used to be I help business owners XYZ. I help peptide and stem cell clinics uh build out their AI whatever
systems aggregation system. This needs to be a direct into your service right here. This should be done quick. All of
y'all's goals is to get to 500 connections. That's your goal. This is Let's just look at um let's look at some
random people. Um let's Who's Braden Baker? Okay. 62 connections,
19 connections. Like people, it's just even if you have 50,000 connections, it'll just say 500 plus. See, this guy's
almost there. Um let's see who's who has a gold on the thing. Yep. You want to see you want this. Um, I'm just This is
all about authority and positioning right now. Where you are with this for the banner, the banner, if you don't
have something that's direct for yours, you can have a very simple like just banner. It should just be your city and
a skyline of your city and that's what's the most professional. I have a professional headsh shot as well. Um,
let me just look at here. Who are my connections? Let's see. I just connected with some of you guys.
Noah, I know Noah. Um, >> that was chill. >> Who's Yeah, Lorraine's in uh Lorraine's
in our program. Founder, CEO, this this 500 connections. Great. Good job. Um, so that that header is really important so
they could just get that quick snapshot of, oh, this is a real person. They do real stuff. For the about me section,
tell about your story and kind of what you do and how you got to this point. For me, I just talked a little bit about
my background and how excited I was about AI. The posts that you make, I I [ __ ] you not, it's so easy to go viral
on LinkedIn. It's so [ __ ] easy to go viral. Um >> I get emails all the time where it's
like Tim Chow posts on LinkedIn. >> Yeah. And it's free promo, you know? >> Yeah, it's free promo.
>> Like, let's just see. I I post fairly of like dude so easy. 102,000 impressions. Um
it's like it's easier than you guys think it is. Also, Joe, should I put them on the
hiring method? [laughter] Joe, you here? >> Yeah.
>> So, if you guys think about it on LinkedIn, you guys should just be posting all the time. I'm looking for u
commission only setters for my AI. You should build a whole thing. AI bubble. I used to do recruiting eight months ago.
I bought remot sales.com. I've built sales teams. So, I always needed sales reps. And LinkedIn was one of my
channels. But on LinkedIn, it's either people trying to find a job or it's business owners trying to actively look
for other business owners, services, or hirees. So, for this, this is basically follow farming, engagement farming.
Like, this is actually farming. Um, I did this so many times. Hold on. Um, bro, hire with the LAR. [laughter]
There's just there's it's so easy to go viral on LinkedIn cuz nobody sees much. Uh, let me see what else. Like a lot of
these will just I'll just start farming. Um, let's see. This one blew up like crazy.
Um, what, like 260 comments. Um, >> whenever you're posting these, do you have it like automated or do you
actually like type out everything? >> I'll go in I'll go in there and post. But you guys should understand that a
LinkedIn algorithm works when you keep on serving one like you keep on talking to one demographic with your content or
with your setup. It will keep on sending you those people. You know what I mean? Um, I'm doing this not you can get
clients from LinkedIn especially using GTM. You need to dial in your LinkedIn, bro. Also, when businesses when when you
go B2B and you do business, I promise you they searching you up. They searching you up on LinkedIn, that's for
damn sure. Like you type in Tim Chow, it's the first thing. It's above my YouTube. It's above almost all of it.
Oh, we got a little Yahoo Finance on their head. I know when they search up Tim Chow, I control what they see,
right? Cyber Street names Tim Cha Cso and Scaling Voice AI. They're like lit. Bro's on Yahoo Finance. Bro's lit. bro
knows what he's doing. So, you just have to position yourself correctly. I I know when I can control what people see
online, especially when I do especially with uh uh any automation system, it's like [snorts]
gives people good background. I think this is sexy. This is no lar. This is also no lar. This is also no lar. Um
it's all real. Like do not lie on it. Do not lie. Um if you guys aren't connected with me yet, connect with me. I'll
connect back with you and I'll repo your [ __ ] like your stuff on LinkedIn when I see it. U I just want to see you guys
blow up and do your thing. But not only is this again so useful for when people land, but this
will actually get you clients. Like LinkedIn is powerful. It's more powerful than you guys think. All right, so go
through your profiles right now. Right now. And share your screen. I want to see
some of your LinkedIns. Dial in. Ask me questions. Do this right now >> as you guys are on call. Dial that [ __ ]
in. Se >> how many times should you be posting every day on LinkedIn?
>> I I try as often as possible. Whenever it crosses my mind, I do. So what would be better is if you guys scheduled every
Monday, Wednesday, Friday 30 minute block in your calendar to post on LinkedIn and to engage with other people
and just be industry standard. Show yourself online. Guys, you guys are an AI guys. You guys
are building a real business. Guys, you guys are going to be working with big businesses that do that will do research
on you. This is the first this is one of the first steps to be a professional, right? Let me see. Let me see if you
guys have asked to connect. Uh Jacob, let's look at Jacob's. Let me share my screen again. Let's look
at Jacob's >> or the EM dash. >> This is not Jacob.
>> [laughter] >> That does not look like Jacob right here. I help small business stop losing
leads and start booking more clients. Um, which businesses? Which businesses?
I remember mine was I help oil and gas and stem cell/peptide clinics something. But what business? Stop losing these and
start using a automation. No, no, no line dashes, please. No line dashes, please. This is perfect. Put in the city
background of Dallas. Put a Dallas background and go like Dallas skyline. And you just literally pop this in. Now
look how good. Um, put the right experience and put a little Oh, yeah. You got to brief
correctly. So, uh, founder and CEO GTM, uh, AI powered outbound platform that runs the entire
we built AI infrastructure layer for regenerative men, uh, medicine clinics, capturing and booking every inquiries of
practices, stop paying for patients they never book. We build custom voice and CRM agents that act as powerful backup
inven that's scalable and revenue positive effective. It makes sense. Remote sales training.
We help entrepreneurs sales master remote high tech sales. We provide practical training blah blah blah.
Neuroscience and medical research focus on understanding the biological clinical covid. My responses include this this.
You actually explain too have something for them to look at and read right. Um cuz I know how many people bro I used to
have LinkedIn. Uh I how did it turn? I need to upgrade it again. I'll do it later. When you upgrade, you could see
who watches your page. You could see I've seen I've taken OMG deals. I've taken clinic calls and I've seen people
look at I've jump on call and I I'll go on my LinkedIn. I'll see they found me. I didn't Some of them I didn't even tell
them to look me on LinkedIn and they already did their research. Valid.
>> Valid as hell. What do you think about since we're starting like you say you're starting a
new company and then it says like how long the company's been around whenever you do put on LinkedIn like what do you
think about that? >> Yeah. No, just put the dates for sure. Gives give people active timeline. Uh
this looks really good. I help ambitious business owners turn software ready to scale business to perfect. 20 years of
product. Perfect. Looks good. A little description. Top skills. Bro's active and bro posts
looks good. legit guy. Run it. My skills as AI and business development. [ __ ] I'll add another
skill. I'll do project management. Sounds good. Why not? And what for posts, my method,
what I like to do is I'll go to chat. I'll do like a generate a picture of a robot.
Standing on top of a human. This is a simple. So this is what I do with content, right? You don't have to
make video format. A lot of the static static stuff rips on LinkedIn. Just take a look. Hold on. Static.
Static. Static. Static. Static. People are doing full audits and they're
ripping. I built the full AI GTM team. Oh, that's the guy that um Garrett connected me with. Um what else? Just
picture. simple picture like dude this [ __ ] rips these rip. This is AI by the way. Um statics. So I get the static
and LinkedIn post max capacity words
has to do with how AI reception. So then all I do is take this, download this, bring it here, go to my LinkedIn,
make a post. this. I could probably have a bot do this
every week on schedule. For real. I'm going to set that up after this. Copy this. Put this here.
>> Bot automations. >> Yeah, the traditional. Okay. Rebuilt version team. This
scale the strong critical position. Okay. Sure.
System. Okay. Sure. Collect movie to send me a message. I build
no build. Okay. Sure. Uh, looks good. Connect with me a
message. Right hand emoji pointing right. Do this.
Done. Easy enough. Easy enough. Let's see how it rips. Does that make sense, guys?
>> Yep. >> The best thing you could do is post audit videos, demo videos. We have
Luminina. You just do demos on hella niches and SEO the [ __ ] out of it and post on Twitter, YouTube, Instagram,
Facebook, LinkedIn. But LinkedIn is so important. You cannot fade LinkedIn. Never fade LinkedIn.
Makes sense. Makes sense. Makes sense. Any question? Any questions? Any questions,
>> Tim? >> Yeah. >> You know what a dot band is?
>> Uh, no I don't. >> Bro, it's so cool. I got one. You just tap your phone on it and basically it
pops up uh like a profile if it freaking loads. And I have my LinkedIn, my if it's going to load, my LinkedIn, my
website all right here. So whenever I'm going like networking events, I don't even I don't even have a business card.
They just tap it. Pops up on their phone. It can go everywhere from there. >> Buy that right now. [ __ ]
>> It's actually so worth, bro. And I It's waterproof and everything. I got everything on there. My whole profile.
>> I love that. I love to hear that. Any questions on LinkedIn for you guys? Antonio, Joe, Seb, Eric, Hayden, Wicker,
Chat, Pier, what's good, guys? Um yeah, for the LinkedIn like you said you could post like um demos with the luminina
demos of like AI voice. >> Yeah. >> Is that like
>> of the voice demos of the SAS just show them what you got, >> right?
>> Where one of our guys post video and audit video on Twitter did 4K views had over a 100 DMs asking him to build it
out. >> You just need to put yourself out there. When someone types your name, types your
company name, what do they see? >> What can they see? Where can you actually This is the inbound method,
guys. I go on my Instagram for what is Hayden says AEO. I go on Instagram. I make one post about AO. I got 10 people.
I haven't even made a story post yet with a CTA. I haven't even done that yet. We're just giving people I'm
warming them up. I warmed them up real quick. But either way, like LinkedIn is so so so powerful. You guys can't fade
it. >> If you're doing great B2B, you want to strike these big deals. They're going to
check your LinkedIn. A hundo P. >> Get it done right now. Right. Any questions on posting or building it
out or LinkedIn strategies or farming? All of you today right now are making a I'm looking for commissiononly phone
setters post. All of you today, you can lead them to a Google form that's free. You can lead them to a whatever. You can
lead them to message you. You can lead them to just connect with you and you'll reach out. You can lead them to comment
something and you'll reach out. Do that today. Let's be active as [ __ ] All right.
>> Yep. >> Any questions? What's good, guys? Um, Gio makes sense. Juan makes sense.
Nathaniel Riley makes sense. >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir.
>> Hey, this is a different kind of LAR though, guys. Like, uh, [laughter] it's like instead of laring, cars, and
watches, it's accolades and what you've done and positioning. It's all positioning for authority, right? How
can we look like the expert? Um, LinkedIn's a great place. Um, and just like Jay said, whenever I
make a post, sometimes they'll just email people that follow me or that connected with me.
>> There super powerful. >> Wait, Tim. >> Yeah.
>> So, I like I don't have like an established like business name yet. So, if I'm like trying to make a LinkedIn
profile, like how am I going to like kind of put that out there? Like, you know what I'm saying?
>> I'll show you guys how easy I'll show you guys how easy it is to LAR. I'll show you guys how.
>> Like I was on I was on claw the other day and I'm looking up like give me like some business name. Go to All you'd have
to do is go to >> Wait, what was it? What was it? >> Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. How to
build a Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Where Where is this? Where is this? Where is this? Where is this? How am I
tripping on this? How to build a LinkedIn page business. Create a LinkedIn page. How to build a
LinkedIn page. >> Well, I have a LinkedIn page made. I just
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's somewhere here where you cuz you got to make a thing so you can put your own
like logo and it could look legit and you can find yourself on companies, right? Cuz when you add this add a role
when you say organization, I could type in Regenics and it pops up as a company. >> I could type in G try GTM and it'll pop
up as a actual company, right? Um, >> how do you make the page? >> Go for business in the upper right
corner. Oh yeah, it's this. It's for businesses. And then where is that? Build. Oh, [ __ ] Where is this [ __ ]
>> Create a company page right there. >> Create a company page. Dude, >> on the bottom, right, right literally
below your mouth. >> I'm old for real. Chill. Chill. Chill on me. Chill on me.
>> 25 years old. >> You put the company name, website, industry, select the size, put the
stuff. Done. Create page. Done. >> Oh, [ __ ] >> It's killed. It's built. Does your does
your company name have to relate with what niche you're selling to or no? >> It doesn't have to, but it sure it damn
sure helps. >> Okay. >> Right. Um, but create those company
pages. Look legit, man. Go legit. Go legit on them for real. That's the method. No.
>> No. Yeah. >> Any other questions? But you guys should be creating that company page right now,
too. There's so many things to do, guys. You guys asking me what do I do? Unlimited.
unlimited. >> Yeah. >> Would you ever put like a demo number on
your LinkedIn page and like have them say, "Hey, try out our our demo here." >> Nah, doesn't really help.
Get them to contact you. Get them booked in with a call with you and then show them, right? Be next to them. Be with
them. Demo and close them on call. Show them what's up. >> Oops.
I also saw that within the process are that there's like a two calls when it comes to the close or are are you close
but you are you closing them on the demo or do you finish the demo and then meet with them again for the
>> it's a demo closing call. So on that demo closing call I close them and collect cash on that call. I I like I do
one call closes. >> Also if you guys are in college please put your college If you guys are in
college please put your club [ __ ] put your accolades. If you're if you're in college, please
be the president of that club. If you're in college and they don't have an AI club, be the president and founder of
that club. >> I'm like a sales club in my college. >> I was Hey, run that [ __ ] That's
perfect, bro. >> I'm going to hire setters from my college.
>> That's fine. >> Exactly. Exactly, dude. Our >> That's why I got the dot ban.
>> Hell yeah. I mean, with Joe, we're getting help with GTM. We're We have a bunch of raw code. We still want to
develop things past the MVP. He went to one of his professor, his Cal professor, said, "Connect me with grad students
that can dev this for me." >> Wow. >> Use your network. You guys are in
college. You know how OP aedu email is? >> That [ __ ] OP as [ __ ] You guys know, you guys realize college
low-key gass, >> right? Um, let me see. Alumni directory. Where do I go to the directory?
Oh, [ __ ] What is this again? Okay, I don't want to log in and find it right now. But there's alumni directory where
you could filter every single name, phone, email from any class, any city, any particular industry, and we can use
ouredu and reach them. This [ __ ] OP. I know your college has it too. This is method.
free leads. All these hella business owners. It's like, yo, I'm alumni. I'm I'm same
classes, same college as you. Let's get some business done. I know you went through humanities one 101 and they made
you read the Iliad. Like, we could relate to people that went to your [ __ ] Take advantage of every connection you
have and with all your networks, guys. Right. There's a lot of stuff to do. Oh, yeah. You guys couldn't even see my
screen. What am I even sharing? Wait, you guys have to tell me. Hold on. You guys have to tell me.
Alumni directory for Reed College. Literally, you can filter by class, city, state,
what country, what network they're in, what they what they studied, what they graduated with. It's OP. I
promise you, your college has it too. I promise you, your college has it too. >> I also, bro, like I was hustling. I was
In college, I was the president of uh Refinancial Investment Club. Uh also president of just you just got to do
[ __ ] bro. Like you guys got to put yourself out there. Like you guys are young, so I'm just trying to make sure
you guys are doing it right. Um but that all has to do with your LinkedIn. Just build hella accolades on your LinkedIn.
Every time you do a get a sale and do a job, post it on LinkedIn. I just helped this company build this. If you want to
do the same, message me. Share that. Don't just go on your wins, guys. Why are wins dead? Post your wins. Get
active, guys. Just because you're making money doesn't mean you stop posting wins. Let's motivate each other. Let's
compete. Let's get on that leaderboard, guys. This is a reminder. But, uh, take advantage of LinkedIn. Socials are so
real. Like, people will like, look at that. It's It's a real thing. Just do it right. All
right. Do you remember the day that chat GPT dropped? >> I do. I do.
>> What was that like? It was four years ago. >> A long time ago.
>> Yeah. Did you stay up to play with it or was that >> I mean, I wasn't super into it, but I
did like a little. I had to figure out what the hype was. >> And they used it for like what?
Homework. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Back then it was just homework. Like the simple stuff.
>> Yeah. But now like we got guys making real money with AI. >> Yeah.
>> Like it's trillions of dollar industry now. >> It's insane.
>> It's like only in four years. But um Ben, like what's what's your story? Like tell them about you. Like we we met what
two years ago? >> Yeah, I think like two years ago. >> Hell yeah. And like where were you at
that time? Like tell >> I mean I like just had gotten into the online space. I think I cold DM'd you
and then we connected and now I'm making making money. >> Yeah. So, how much did you do last month
or this month or last month? Yeah. >> Last month I did 30, but this month it'll be closer to like 50 like
realistic >> like $50 or 50 >> 50k 50k $50,000. There we go. There you
go. And how does it >> how does it feel to like actually come up a while? Cuz dude, you were grinding
for a year or two and then suddenly >> it just took off. >> It flicked up and like how does it feel?
>> It's great. I mean, it's like one of those things. You kind of have to to know it's going to happen and then when
it happens, you're like, "Okay." And then next goal, like now I need 100. >> Yeah. Exactly.
>> Not satisfied anymore. >> Yeah. Cuz it's a it's a vicious game, but like I feel like guys like us who
are always hungry to like keep on building, keep on selling, keep on doing [ __ ] Like we just want to push the goal
even further, you know? >> Yeah. And I feel like so many people they say like, "Oh, 10K a month." Like
10K does nothing. You got you got to push. If you think about it, 10K is like two one, two, three deals if
>> Yeah. No, it's so easy to make. You can make that in a day. >> Exactly.
>> Actually, >> actually. Um, and what's the what do you feel like is the goal now? Like where
where do you want to be at the end of the year? Right now, we're recording this in July.
>> Yeah, July. I mean, ideally 100K in the next two months, probably closer to 200 by the end of the year.
>> And then you're going to obviously scale the sales team, right? >> Yeah. Just continue to scale.
>> And how do you scale a sales team? Tell them. So, I mean, it's just comes down to content, lead flow, and and volume.
The bigger and more volume you have, the more team you need, the more money you make.
>> And what does the team look like >> between closers and setters? >> Yeah. How do you how do you manage that?
>> I mean, you have your your closers and setters. And the thing is, you come down to making sure they're like all doing
their little tasks throughout the day. They're saying the right things on call, not just saying random information that
wastes time. >> And then making them as efficient as possible to make me as much as possible.
>> Yeah. Cuz you're managing and leading, correct? Correct. >> And those are two different things.
Correct. >> Yeah. Cuz I mean to lead, you got to show them what to do, but to manage, you
got to make sure they're actually doing it. >> Yeah.
>> So, >> that's the hard part though. I feel like a lot of the times when I'm building my
sales teams for like a couple of different agency SKs, like >> they kind of look different and sound
different because you need to build like teams like team teams, right? Like if you have the setters dialing and the
closers closing these deals, you need to make sure like they're actually operating together or else it's going to
break. >> No, I completely agree. >> And I feel like each offer like each
people you work with is different. Like everyone has to energy match otherwise there's not going to be a good flow and
team energy is always going to be low. >> Yeah. Either way, it's it's just like I have a AI agency in the oil and gas
space and the closer is just like some older guy. >> Yeah. And then I have a closer for the
clinic space and it's just like there's this girl that on the team that's crushing it and then this is just like
some college kid just like he's just playing the cracked like college AI kid. >> Exactly. Exactly. [laughter]
>> So it has to match the offer too, right? >> Yeah. And every offer is different. So you have to like be able to adapt to
each offer. Find people that fit each offer. >> Hell yeah.
>> And it's a lot more steps than I feel like a lot of people think. >> Cool. Cool. What would you say to
someone that just booked a call trying to join AI inner circle like who maybe they don't know too much about me either
way? I mean biggest thing is you have to be ready to commit to yourself. Every person has the opportunity to succeed.
Most people don't take that opportunity because it's not easy. It's uncomfortable when you want to make a
change in life. But that's the only thing that really holds someone back from succeeding is embracing it.
>> But I always say like dude, I don't want to say selling AI is easy cuz it's like hell of bread, but it's straightforward.
Like you got to work that [ __ ] You know what I mean? Like the guys people will see my student wins and be like, "Dude,
no way. They're closing 10K plus deals like multiple times, too. But it's like, dude, these guys work like 12 hour days,
bro. Like, they don't they don't see that [ __ ] >> Yeah.
>> They actually grind. They sit in the Discord and we see like 12, 13, 14, 15 hours.
>> Yeah. It's ridiculous. Um, >> but, you know, they they found what they're passionate about and what makes
them money and has a positive effect on the world. Like, why not go like ham at it? You
>> And if you like find a passionate niche, it makes it that much easier to sell cuz everyone already needs AI. Like if you
don't use it, you're just falling behind. So these companies need it and they need someone to sell it to them.
Otherwise, they don't have it. >> Dude, AI sells itself at this point, man.
>> Exactly. You don't need the sales skills like that people need, think they need to get started.
>> Yeah. Most of it's like all limiting beliefs. It's like when >> uh super technical guys, they're like,
"Can I do this?" I'm like, "Yeah, you just need to learn how to sell." And then the sales guys that don't know
anything technical, I'm like, "You just need to learn how to sell this." >> Exactly.
>> Right. And learn some of this jargon. But, you know, either way, um, bro, I have big goals for myself, too. I think
for you, like hitting consistent 100 grand months, 200 grand months. For me, I'm trying to hit a mill a month. I've
been trying for the last year and a half. Uh, but I think I'm slowly climbing my way there. Um, but yeah,
even for my guys, um, I have a goal. I want 100 guys doing at least 20K a month. I think I could do that in like
less than a year >> easily. I mean, you already got a couple. No.
>> Yeah, we got like at least half a dozen at this point. Exactly. And we just opened up the Yeah. Industry, too.
>> Yeah. Craziest results in the space, right? >> You're they're gonna be there. They're
all going to be there. [laughter] >> Easy enough. >> It's actually the best time ever to be
alive. Like, we're not if you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s, like you're not young enough where you're just a kid and you
don't have money, time, energy to make money with AI and take advantage of this AI gold rush. You're not old enough.
You're not just like a old head that's like, I don't know, you just know AI is the future, but you're not going to do
anything about it, right? Um, and actually this is the easiest time in history to build an AI agency or an
agency in general. Um, so let's let's go through these slides. And this isn't just like a AI is the future
presentation. I'll literally give you practical advice on what we're doing to actually scale uh some of our guys to
over 100 grand a month with their agency. We got, you know, it's not as simple as just like selling chat bots.
Um, I want to go over kind of what we sell just to give you kind of a background. If you're an existing agency
owner, not in AI yet, um just take this as background. But we sell AI, um because we could charge super high
ticket, like 10K, 20K builds, um and actually offer something where if it's like AI CRM, a AI lead nurturing, saving
them tons of time, saving them money, making them more money, or like voice AI receptionists or custom agents, website
chatbots, like sure, we can do all that. Um and what's special is we're still extremely early to implementation. Like
businesses are like what they're in two decades ago, we all knew they needed to be on socials, but someone's going to
bring them on social. And now all these businesses will have AI, but who's going to deliver it to them? And it's us. Um,
and the winners won't be the best coders, those GitHub warrior geeks. It'll be guys like us actually
distributing and communicating properly what AI can do to their business. Um, and businesses are really ready to shell
over money. Uh, companies already spend money on leads, reception to setters, follow-up, quoting, and admin. And if
you're able to do things better for them, cheaper, they're going to love you forever and pay you a [ __ ] ton of money.
Um, AI can now perform a lot of this. I mean, you can one-shot huge departments of uh businesses and get them to pay you
a good amount of money. Um, and we're able to we have a method to build quick demos to make that conversation happen
immediately. Uh, the market's still extremely wide open. Um, and you know, most sellers are fighting over the
obvious niches. Meanwhile, we're actually going into really untapped niches. Uh, for example, we got a guy
making over 100 grand a month uh selling AI to street light lamp cleaning businesses. Um, like real enterprise
businesses that can pay. Like one of my niches in oil and gas and we sell them 35k deals all the time. Um, and the
method I teach, you don't need to build any of the AI yourself, right? Uh, it's purely an arbitrage. So you ha like you
could go through a productized model and sell the same proven system to one niche over and over again or just basically be
a AI agency and be able to help anyone and empower anyone with AI because you have access to devs in the inner circle.
We got guys that we've worked with tons of deals with. So it's just like you know we're able to facilitate that
faster. Um I'm going to get into the GTM in a bit this method. Some of you guys might be staying for that but I still
need to give you valid background. Your offer should pay for itself in one sentence. So, it needs to be you are
losing X because Y is happening every day, right? You're actually educating them on the problem and not going AI
first. You're solving their problem. The vehicle to help solve their problem is with AI. Um, and now I want to discuss
the way to get clients. Okay? Everyone's here for client acquisition. Every you're watching this because you want to
make more money. You want to get more clients. And we got the method to do that. Um, but the old way to get clients
is broken. Cold calling forces you to interrupt strangers all day and it's cold like these business. You still have
to educate them on what's necessary. Educate them on the problem and that's fairly difficult to do in a quick
timeline. Um even though this works, we have something better. That's the point of AI. It it's industry breaking stuff
dropping every day. And because I have AI front runners, a group of guys that are very skilled with AI and agency
owners that are ripping big numbers, we get to test and have a bunch of eyes to see what's new and what's working. and
we have something that's new and working. Um, so we're not cold calling anymore and we're not even running ads.
Ads force you to spend money before you uh before your message proof and offers are even proven. Um, and burning ad
spend is a real thing if you don't have the right systems, funnels, processes, sales, like it's a whole thing. Um, so
our method replaces brute force with true leverage. So u basically we're providing you guidance on uh building a
GTM agent or leveraging our GTM agents to find research and monitor the right accounts audit the content uh and shows
businesses exactly where AI can improve their operation. Give them demos um that let them experience the solution um and
then crawl LinkedIn use SEO lead magnets referrals to keep creating that demand and every reply and result improves the
next round. Okay. So, the five systems that work together, I'm going to dive in a little bit more about this because I
want to be clear what the GTM agent can do, but we have five systems that allow us not to have to cold call or run ads.
And the GTM agent is the main way. Then, we have a content engine. Uh, that's probably how you found me, by having a
brand. You wouldn't believe some of our some of our front runner guys, they'll just post a little demo or post the
audit and so many people will message them on X or LinkedIn or on Instagram asking them to make that for them and to
pay them. they're just throwing money at them. LinkedIn is great as well uh to keep you visible and just as a B2B uh
signal, social proof. And then we have SEO and lead magnet systems to be able to then nurture the people that we
capture. And then we also have a referral method letting you work with adjacent companies to bring you deal
flow for free. Uh and you basically just give them a cut. So, it's like if I'm selling AI to plumbers, I could partner
with a social media marketing agency for plumbers or SEO agency for plumbers and be like, "Yo, give me your book of
business. Give me your lead list. Let me sell them AI and I'll give you a percentage of it." Uh, we'll dive into
that more later, but the GCM agent is a center of the new method, right? Instead of waking up to blank prospect list, you
wake up to researched accounts, real buying signals, and messages ready for your approval. Right? So, this is what
the GTM agent actually does. It's so [ __ ] cracked. It's been alive. GTM agents have been like a thing for two to
three years, but only the last two to three weeks has it been actually usable. That's why I'm so excited for this
opportunity and like genuinely the whole community is because we're about to print with this. Like we are so early.
We're ridiculous early. So, this agent will you just basically type in the company ICP XYZ very simple prompt. It
will find accounts that match the exact market, research and the company buyer situation evidence. It will then score
that specific lead and it'll wait for reason why this week is you know uh better than like it will tell you not
why it will add commitment and urgency and it will write messages SMS email continue to optimize based off what
changes in the market and the data that it gets right um it'll also ask for approval before any extra interaction
and then um it'll update the CRM and so much more so you could track it clearly so basically from start to finish. This
is a Thanos on one snap to get you book calls for your agency, right? It'll find the buyer, nurture them, follow up, book
like, but because it's it's there's so many compartments and gears, you need to make sure everything is perfect and
elite and that's the goal of AI front runners and what we want to help you build, right? Step one, tell the agent
exactly who you want. Um, so it's like find companies that need AI. It'll define the company, define the buyer.
We're actually, yeah, this is my big swing. I'm actually dumping tens of thousands of dollars to develop
something that will make this clear. Um, and something for agency owners to just one shot phantom of this [ __ ] It will
define the buyer, define the exclusions. Um, and you can work on it to define the minimum record and run all of this to be
able to get a good amount of data. Then step two is that uh it will make the machine prove every account belongs. So
it's going to do uh lead scoring uh and then it will contact the people um whether um you know it finds their
email, their SMS or whether they need it. It the agent is smart enough to crawl and see what that business
specifically needs to do with AI. So you can go and sell it to them. It's bare that simple. And you will have a demo
connected to all of this. So when you have the call, you're not just like stranded with no idea. you will have a
form telling you this is what who they are, what they need, how you sell them, how you can close, and what you should
price, right? Um, and never let the agent invent the pain. Um, a source directly supports it. A cautious
interruption might be like may uh usually um something you could generally install these offer claims or questions.
Um, and so you need to make that clear. We have this demo system too because that's an unfair advantage. It's it goes
from trust me like AI can probably help your business to call this number and test in your niche yourself. We got
something that works. Um so this demo is it's ridiculous. Like it's it's truly so smart. Um and then we could keep a human
in control by approving external actions and agreeing to certain automations and making pivots in the business that you
deem necessary. Um but genuinely AI can it will scrape enough to know. Um and then as I always say you have no
business if you don't have tracking. Business is just one big math word problem. So making the CRM the boss we
all of that information all of the GTM structure has a CRM to it so you could track every single step. And the AI
itself is smart enough to optimize its entire system based off that tracking. I mean, this is what people pay Mckenzie
and Bane and Co.50, 100, $200,000 to do, and we can oneshot this simply from our desk at home. Um, and also besides the
GTM, right, turn every insight into content. You now know their pains and objections, the language the buyers are
using, and the demos that actually create curiosity. So, show AI audits, show demos, breakdowns, show case
studies, and ROI, right? uh more than ever these these people online that people will like like to see cool stuff
but they never want to put in the work to implement. So when people do land on your content and see it they're willing
to just pay you to get it done. Um so one audit can create a week of distribution right long YouTube break
breakdowns short form clips LinkedIn clips insta clips Tik Tok clips. Um so every audit ends with more money. It's a
positive feedback loop. Um, and this, yes, this what creates a flywheel. These cold callers can't copy, right? Uh, so
you'll start, you'll stop starting from zero every Monday and just trying to like hit the phones, right? Let's grow
up. Um, there's we have so much to do and the economics can get serious very quickly, right? Uh, AI revenue generated
by me in a little over a year, a mill. Uh, but reported total AI revenue generated by students is around a little
over a quarter million. Um the biggest deals are 35k because you you could see like we we're starting at these points
but out a zero behind of all this you know what I mean like you add a zero behind of this this is what we're going
to be in uh couple months hopefully. I mean we will uh because we're so extremely early to GTM and uh especially
with our referral method and our content machine. We we have a content plan for our guys exactly how to get that done.
It's just hard not to succeed in AI. It's just we we we make it unreasonable for you not to, especially with our
method without cold calling and without running ads. Right? If you want to sell AI, use this AI to sell more AI. If
you're selling like you're a video editing agency or you're a marketing agency or SEO agency, power it with AI.
Power your client acquisition with AI. I promise you, uh your competition is going to get dusted. Absolutely creamed.
Uh so your first 30 days should be painfully simple. Uh inside AI front runners, this is kind of what we want to
see is choosing the niches, defining the targets, packaging the offers, reviewing the accounts, turn on the signal
monitorings, sending out a couple quality messages, and getting the thing running, right? Usually within the first
month, we want our AI front runner guys to close their first one, two, three AI deals worth 3 to 10K plus, right? Um,
and usually if people aren't able to do that, they're literally either just not listening to us or they're just not
working because we have a path that's bare simple, especially in this AI gold rush. Um, so the people that who will
who will move now will actually be my case studies later. Uh, they don't spend another year like or a couple months
like watching content trying to figure it out themselves versus huddling up instead of going lone wolf joining uh a
cabal an AI inner circle of guys that are pushing. um in the description below on YouTube. Are you watching this on me?
I'm going to put a calendarly link to talk to my team. They'll explain a little bit more about our process and
how we're able to serve you guys. And u we need to know this your timeline and your background and your strengths and
weaknesses so we can decide what niches you want to hit with what systems and methods that you want to focus more time
on. Um, no matter what this will be for people I I I genuinely we're we're investing so much in this software and
this back end of fulfillment just for one to two guys. So agency owners doing between 50 to quarter million a month.
We can scale you guys with this system. We could replace a lot and really balloon your profitability. But for guys
just starting, if you're watching this, you're completely new, like this is the opportunity. This levels the playing
field. Even the guys doing 100 to 500k a month, you could destroy them with GTM. You could destroy them by being
consistent and direct and professional with a curated content list. Um, and especially with our referral partners as
well and what we're doing inside uh AI Front Runners, it's just we try to make it unreasonable for you not to succeed
and to scale. So, if you're starting out or if you're looking to scale your agency, your AI agency and start selling
AI, uh, book that call below. I promise you uh you want to take this seriously as I always tell people take your life
take your business seriously because you only got one of it. Um and that conversation below uh might be the thing
that completely changes your business and opens it up that completely changes your life. So I want you to be on time
to that um and ready to go. Okay, I'll see you guys soon. So I'm going to shameless plug my SAS um it's not even
out yet. We are pre-revenue. But uh I built this for agency owners and there's tons of use cases because
it's just an end toend AI that books calls. You just type in I'm an SEO agency serving plumbers. It's just going
to book calls. And how it books calls is it'll find your you just upload a bunch of stuff about your ICP, who you do,
your website, a bunch of info, connect all your stuff, calendarly, Google calendar. It will just start booking you
calls. Pretty insane. But what it will do is it will go find your perfect lead, enrich that lead, find their name,
phone, email, website, LinkedIn, do custom outreach, custom copy, custom funnels, custom forms. It will track all
of it, too. Custom follow-up, custom pre- nurture assets to get them to show up on call and then get them booked on
your calendar. And then you'll get an AI summary of who they are, what they need, what you could sell them, how much the
price, the whole thing. Um, this is OP. This is like basically the Thanos of a lot of businesses. But what this is
simply, I'm working on this with Joe. He's also in front runners. Um, and we're basically white gloving it for all
our guys. We're potentially charging enterprise companies 25K plus to get this implemented. But for our guys, we
want to make sure, you know, you could print if you're early on something. And this method is so early. Only in the
last couple weeks has this actually been usable with AI. So, uh, if you want to be early, uh, you can join the wait
list. If you're watching this, it might be out already. Um, but it'll be super powerful. I genuinely think that my guys
are going to print actually print when they fully use what we got for them. Um, we've already been beta testing it with
Riley, Trist, a couple of our guys, and they've seen insane results. Like, I know it's just the
the sample size isn't big enough for me to be like, "Oh, that's the best thing ever." But it's giving us amazing signal
already. Like, we're already getting like it works, right? It's raw code, but we want to make sure that there's no
bugs and the UI is amazing for you guys to use. So, we can find the people. It'll qualify them using our custom
agents. Um, it'll write all the stuff for you. You can even manually hop in and, you know, add stuff. It'll send all
the way all the way getting them to the booked call and you just close them, right? We have multiple agents. It's
leads, intent, outbound copy, getting them booked in. And uh, we are really tr truly trying to compete. Not only Joe is
working on this, we have a couple other devs also from his college. We got a couple grads working on this for us as
well. Uh we're really bootstrapping and we're we're competing against, you know, we know there's a couple Xfank like
companies that can afford like 20 x fang people to build things out enterprise level, but we better. Um we we know
agency owners better. We're the users. So we're creating something that we use. Um and either way, we've realized that
people can use it for recruiting, um getting sales opportunities, rev ops for founders in general. Like uh I know the
commercial cleaner in Austin, Texas that is the one who uh he has an account with SpaceX and he's going to use GTM to
automatically just book calls with potential companies that want to use his service to get their building cleaned.
So there's just tons of use cases u because you could target a very specific niche and get them booked on your
calendar directly. Um I know I often say, "Hey, it's Kung Fu Panda. There's the secrets. There's no secret, right?
You can only do SMS, email, outbound, hit the phones, ads, SEO. There's nothing new. You just got to work it.
Everything works. You got to work it. People are funny. They try like $100 of ads and say it doesn't work. It's cuz
your funnel sucks, your creative sucks, your copy sucks, your targeting sucks, your sales sucks, right? You just have
to be better at everything. And it's just interesting opportunity as this is new though. This is actually new. Um Joe
and our developers, they're literally inventing the wheel every day. like there's things that we we have trouble
building some stuff and we're trying to find references on GitHub and just online in general and we can't find it
like these guys are hard coding. Um, so we are so so very excited to deliver this for you guys. Um, definitely check
it out and the people early. It's just like Bitcoin, man. Like if you buy Bitcoin today, sure it's a cool
investment. You bought Bitcoin 20 years ago, 15 years ago, 10 years ago, even 5 years ago even, bro, you're bald and
you're rich. The only difference is you're early. And I truly believe in about a year or two's time in 2027,
everyone will know about GTM agents. So it's just, you know, who are the guys that see the opportunity and take quick
action. You know what I mean? So when I say I help scale on Instagram, um, follow me on Instagram, Tim Chow AI. Tim
Chowai. Um, I say I'm the founder of AI Front Runners. I'm reading my bio. I help agency owners scale using cutting
edge AI. This is cutting edge AI. Uh, only been usable the past couple weeks and only doable with like us. We have no
competitors right now. No, no one can do this end to end. Um, so I'm really excited where this goes to and keep
dialing in during this five hour free course. You guys are for you guys actually watching this, if you hear me
right now, you guys are better than 80, 90, 95% of the population that would just watch five minutes of this video
and then save it, bookmark it, like it or something, add it to some playlist and never see it again. Right? You guys
are the one taking action. So wanted to give you guys this little gold nugget. So I want you to record these two things
separately. Right? The demo is one thing where someone's already booked in and you just set them or it's a pre it's a
nurture asset. It's a pre-all asset versus the lead magnets should be like you know those Instagram like put in the
word uh ready and then like they'll send you a thing. Send me comment the word video and then send them a video.
Comment the word XYZ and that lead mag is what will attract them to then book a call with you. it's going to lead them
to book a call. Okay. Um it's really important that for the audit um or from the lead magnet, if it's a full
audit, a full demo, a full it could be any piece that will sell to them, right? So
most of what you guys are selling is the implementation. Bowski said it best. a business owner could just use this
software and set it up and just spend 500 bucks a month, right? Um, but they're not. They just want to
delegate it and they want an expert's eyes on it. Um, so you can be as transparent as possible, right? Just
like with AI front runners, I'm going to basically give out the entire method on my content. It's basically there for
people, but it's the implementation that's difficult, right? How do we actually apply into our niche? How do I
actually work it? What are the details? Uh, let's get some video cameras on. What's good, Jacob? It's good to see
you. What's good, >> bro? So glad to be back at my my office setup, bro. Jesus Christ, bro. You
>> scraped the Urus wheel, bro. >> Bro, that was cracked. He showed me. It's bad.
>> Uh yeah, I mean the TPMS light was on when I got it, but I just thought that was like three-piece wheel things, you
know. >> And then I I did a walk around. It wasn't like flat when we were ripping it
around. But >> not that I know. >> He's like He's like, "Bro, you hit
something." I was like, "Bro, you know me better." [laughter] >> But um I want you guys to have
uh super strong evergreen uh videos. These will be on typically for me they're on Loom. You just use Loom and
record. Your face is on the right. And there's your time to show that you're the authority and you're the expert,
right? You're not That's why I would I would encourage you to spend two or three days getting your couple lead
magnets correct and getting your demo correct. That demo video has to be damn near flawless. Everyone who will be
talking to you on call will be seeing that video. Right? This isn't as simple as putting on a thank you page, right?
This is actually like you texting them, yo, watch this. And then on Loom, you could see if they watched it, see a new
viewer, right? Um, and even the morning of U, you could text them like, "What'd you think of it? What you think of the
video?" In the demo, there's your chance to introduce who you
are, what you've done, who you're part of, who you work with. arbitrageing testimonials,
showing the product, showing the use case, and even within competitors, right? It's
going to take you guys too much time to just custom loom everything. There's no point. Just film it once. Um, and I say
to to do this two or three days because I want you to film it like 10 times in a row for three days. And then typically
on the third day, there will be one that's like really good. you'll find talk tracks or if you've already sold if
you guys already sold your SAS or sold your agency offer, you already know what people like to
hear, right? Those little talk tracks and talk points and that's for that that demo is so crucial, right?
So, basically for if I'm selling AI CRM for uh peptide, I'm going to go into this who we work with. I'm with Ascend.
We do over a mill a month. Part of why we've been able to be so successful scaling is because of our affiliate
program. We've had zero dollars of ad spend. We're pure affiliate, but because of that, it's difficult to attribute
dollars, difficult to do attribution for profit and revenue, and even for tracking.
So, I've created a custom dashboard that allows affiliates to see their payouts cleanly, that see what's working, that
ties to views, uh, that will also allow you as an admin to get the right numbers to scale. As
I'm sure you guys are targeting a million-dollar days, and when it's that much volume, every percentage and every
number matters, right, for you to make strong decisions for your business. Because let's just
say you bring on an affiliate and it's only three rolling months on the deal and then it slides down, right? It's not
attributed to them anymore. And at the same time, each month the processor average was 8%, then 12%, then 9.5%,
then 18%. How can we properly track? Right? So having that data is really really
important to people and especially these companies that want to scale. And when you use that language and start speaking
in that way, it will start creating more value and more buy into the call. Right? I want you to have the philosophy that
we can spam them SMS and email, sure, but if they don't want to show up to the call and they see no value, they're not
going to show up to the call. They can know it's at 400 p.m. tomorrow and they still won't show.
But hey, Julian, who's your favorite uh who's your celebrity or who's your business guy you [ __ ] with? Who's the
who do you like? >> She [ __ ] with Bowski super heavy. >> Okay. But in general, like a like a
celebrity figure like a >> I guess Alex Herozi, bro. >> Okay. If let's just say next year,
February 24th at 3:40, you have a meeting with Alex Herozi. He doesn't have to send you a single SMS or email,
you're going to show up. >> You best believe I will, bro. >> Exactly. So, to increase buyin, a lot of
you guys are still tweaking like, "Oh, but I'm going to do SMS like 24 hours, then 12 hour, then two hour. Actually,
I'm going to do like 6 hours and 20 minute. Maybe they'll respond better." Like that's not the point.
The big point of this specific demo video you're going to send them, this basically evergreen lead magnet or demo
magnet is so that it increases buy in and they show up. All right. This also has to do with the thank you
page after people book in. I suggest all of you use Calendarly. The reason why I use Calendarly, I push Calendarly so
hard is because they have SMS and email reminders that you can customize that will always send as a blue text and
always hit primary inbox. Always every time. Super dependable. Go high level. There's always some [ __ ]
going on. All right? And I'm not trying to make you guys tie like there's just no point. There's no point. When people
book in, you want to make sure those things send, right? But after what does it redirect to?
After someone books a call, what does it redirect to? Well, we want them to immediately start nurturing them. So, a
thank you page is pretty damn mandatory. You guys can build this on base, lovable, go high level, whatever site
you can host it on. It's going to look like this, right? Thank you for uh your call is not yet confirmed. And that it's
a head t a subtitle and then a main video. Watch this video. And in the thank you page video, which is not the
demo video, you just tell them confirm on your calendar on Gmail on or whatever. Confirm on your calendar. And
also watch all the videos below and show tell them show up on time on your laptop because if you actually want to
implement AI and you want to take your business seriously, I want you to show up for this seriously. Like this might
be the one thing that will supercharge your business to 1 to 10 million, right? It's kind of like that video. super
short, two to three minutes. Um, and then below that, it's not testimonials filled with
testimonials that matter, right? Testimonial walls used to work. It's just like, but now it's like, sure, if
you're advertising, you should be getting results, but they have more direct questions. So, below that, it'll
be 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 eight videos, 9 10 as many, I'll say 8 to 12 videos that are FAQ. All right? You ask them, you answer
in video format in two to three minutes their hardest hitting questions. For example,
uh how does the voice voice AI actually work? And you give them a two, three
minute um what do you guys charge? How do you guys price? And you tell them in the video. Typically I for that one I'm
always like I don't want to blurt out a price without letting you know exactly what you get. But uh this is and I go
over we range from like 3 to7,000 um or like I'll go like for OMG or we go like this is between$10 to $70,000 deals
but we didn't know your exact XYZ. I give them a a basis and then I tell them I'm implementing this software or basic
this is cutting edge AI u it won't be a couple hundred that's for sure. I make it clear, right? And sometimes when
people book, I'll see some people will cancel it and I'm like, bet. I've had setters call them before and be like,
"Why'd you cancel?" And they're like, "Ah, just probably not the right move right now." They'll try to rebook them
in if it's valid. But usually we want people to self-qualify getting to that booked call. I'm sure
you guys don't want to just go to Disneyland and start booking calls for your voice AI for plumbers, right? We
only want qualified calls. Especially if you guys have a closer and where's Tristan? You have closers and they're
really good closers. You want to only have if they have eight calls in the calendar, you want to make sure all
eight are like nice bullets, no hollowos. You want to book them good calls, even yourself. Respect yourself,
right? Um, so that part, the thank you page will be super important. Those videos will allow them to see you
multiple times and hear you talk. If you think about it, if you have eight videos and they're all four minutes each and
they watch every single one, they've spent 30 minutes with you. Okay, that's damn near as long as a
whole like course on YouTube, a full free course on YouTube or a free walkthrough on how to set up a
AI CRM for your blah blah blah, right? Uh what's interesting is I've ran this for agency offers, info offers, u direct
service offers, financial services offer and we'll see there will be a difference in views like
people will actually scroll and then click and then after that they'll take more action and it and it doesn't lead
them anywhere. It just stops there at thank you page, right? Um,
but in somewhere in the SMS or email, you can then push to your demo. You could do that automatically. I like
doing it manually because I could then follow up viciously and make sure they watch it. I know if they
watch that and go through the thing when they show up, they're buying. I'm supposed to collect money. There's no
excuse. I'm supposed to collect cash, right? So you guys talking about shitty leads or oh this objection oh you gave
me this. It's your fault. You're just bad at sales. It's your fault. But this is sales too. A lot of sales trainers
focus on the actual closing call but there's so much that surround it that will actually help you so much. Just
actually it will help you close much easier. You're fighting an uphill battle with not right. Um but any questions on
the demo side of things or these videos? So so important. So Tim, um, is do you think that there's
any significance in the actual particular like order of videos on the landing page? So like demo first and
like price at the end. Like I'm just trying to know like cuz I I really like the idea of nurturing for
>> Yeah. >> Not really. I mean for your offer you what's your offer?
>> This is the AI clone done for you content. So I would do one like how you said for the voice AI. So like how does
AI cloning actually work? Right? So I would explain it to them in two three minutes. Then I do like um maybe like a
video for testimonials even though you said the wall doesn't work. Like just showing who I have on the team. Then one
showing like small things. So like add value a little bit before the call. So like maybe teach them something about
the algorithm or like many chat or anything like that. >> That's not value to them though. That's
not value to them though. Right. >> So some questions in my head. Some big FAQs. You could ask Claude what the main
FAQs are, but the main FAQs in my head is um how do you charge if I want what if I want more um uh like videos or how
does usage and tokens work or how does um what other niches have you worked in or how do you use this for organic or
ads like or it could be as many questions, right? But you know your ICP more than me. The main ones usually are
just how does it work and how is it priced and who like who has seen success with it right
>> around that will be industry specific for you. Um you don't need to be sitting in no crazy
background with no BSL. It it doesn't have to be like that. It's more like a you you should be positioning yourself
as like you're in an office. There's a whiteboard there like like you're you're dialed in. You're an operator, right?
Um, even where you're sitting now is [ __ ] perfect. You've recorded a few minutes and just just knock it out,
right? >> Um, any other questions? >> Like a mirror board or something? Would
a mirror board be helpful? >> Um, I don't think so. It's all just no no I mean besides the literal demo,
there's no really screen share one. There's not really a screen, but you just talk to them and like pretend like
>> you're just literally answering their question. You know what I mean? H [clears throat]
>> Tim uh for the Loom videos that you or the demo videos you sent Tim after you booked the meeting uh are you making
these like for every prospect or are you just making one good one and that's one you do?
>> That's called it's that's why it's called the evergreen uh demo or evergreen lead magnet
evergreen whatever because you just film it once or you get that good video and that's the one you send all the time,
right? Unless your offer changes, you got to update it, >> right?
>> Yeah. But that's why I said spend three days and do it 10 times a day and on the third day you're gonna find a video
that's like dude if someone watches this full 10 to 15 someone watches this 12minute loom they're buying.
>> H do you have like an example loom or you're not dropping that? >> Um I basically just gave you a quick
TLDDR then of like hey this is who we are this is what we do this XYZ. you give some detail, tell some jargon, you
know, it's exactly like that, but for voice AI, but for AI leads, but for um I know that Andrew has a very aggressive
FAQ page. Um it's it's as simple as question video, question video, question video. No secret. There's nothing else.
Uh that will properly educate them and properly like dial them in. If they're interested too, they want to see that
from you. Um, >> and all those videos, it's your chance to like show that you know what you're
talking about, right? Because how many of you guys have just jumped on call and it's the first time like you don't even
know where they're at or it's just like, "What's good, bro? Uh, tell me everything versus like you know where
you could lead them. They know why they're on call." A lot of Oh, yeah. A couple sales calls that I reviewed over
the last couple days, these some people don't even know they're on a sales call. It sounds like you guys are just talking
to them, guys. like just showing them cool [ __ ] Every time someone jumps on call with me, they
know I'm trying to sell them something. I'm making it very clear. Um,
but what's good, Antonio, Chris, chat, Dan, Diego, Eric, G. >> Yo, Tim, but I have a question. Wouldn't
it like kind of motivate people less to get on a call if it's a sales call? Like sometimes I like to position it as like
an audit or like at least I was thinking to. I'm not I'm not saying that the title of it says sales call. I'm not
it's not to that degree, right? But what I mean by this is especially on the beginning of the call, you know how I'm
always setting. I'm like, "Hey, this is how it's going to go, >> right? I need to understand your
business logistics, who you're serving, and how we can implement our CRM for your business, even if it's even val if
you even have numbers that are valid. If it is, I'll show you exactly what our bills look like and how it could serve
you and how much it costs, everything. I'll let you know everything you need to know to make a strong decision today.
Okay? And like not setting that basis hard in the beginning of the call, it'll just throw it off. People just think
it's a combo. >> That's why some people will lose control of the call. Sometimes I have, it's a
bad habit to me when I have a yapper. I love just letting them yap because I know that I can direct them fairly
quickly in the right way when it's the right time. But, you know, it's it's your Zoom. It's your Google Meet room.
That's your room. That's your crib. That's your office, bro. Like, don't let them, you know, right? Like, set a
standard for someone that shows up to your office, right? >> Yeah.
>> Any more questions on that demo part? I want to see all of you guys implement this today.
You guys are what? Maybe scripting it today, filming it tomorrow, whatever it is. If you're
>> I'm coding the thank you page right now. >> Yeah. If you have a desktop or laptop, there's teleprompter apps where you can
just write a script, look at the teleprompter, and read it. If you're really good at answering the
question, you could speak, go off the dome, and just be genuine and talk to them and answer their question, right?
You guys should be experts at answering those questions. >> So, wait, wait, I had another question.
For the landing page, you said like after they book, you want to have like a whole another like sitelanding page to
show them. >> Exactly. Exactly. >> So, does Countly have a feature to where
like when they book it brings them to that or >> Yes.
>> Okay. Any other questions? >> Okay. Um, now for the lead mags, it's
important that you have the right lead magnet, or else you're going to vamp your offer. What I mean by vamp your
offer is we'll pe we'll have people sell agency offers. Let's just say bros selling AEO or bros selling AEO and
it's uh he should be charging 10K 20K for the entire project. Let's just say it's a rolling 90day project, right? But
he's like, "Okay, well, let me put this guide out for $27 or for free that shows them every step of this so they could do
it themselves." You would think in the philosophy, like the pure philosophy is if you teach
someone something, they're going to just want more. It's just like college. Even though you have lecture every day,
you're still raising your hand, ask questions, you have even more questions. Um, but it kind of works in reverse. if
you're not able to have if that lead magnet isn't truly amazing uh and then you end up vamping your
offer. Someone that could have spent 10 grand, 20 grand with you only spent $27. That's a goddamn shame for real. A
goddamn shame. So it's like when you do have a free lead I I I don't like those to anymore.
It's just like if when you do have a free lead magnet though, it has to be compartmentalized,
it has to be designed so once they finish that lead magnet, the next thing is to buy from you.
It's kind of like [snorts and clears throat] electric toothbrush companies all make
all their money off the head, right? like you're buying the literal electric and you're like, "Why is it so cheap?
It's so lit. It's 15 bucks, but all the heads are like $5 each and you're buying a head every like six, three, six
months. Um, but
it has to be compartmental. It has to go to the next thing. It has to lead to the next thing." So, you would think for
Julian, he has a AI cloning offer. It's like a law law firm and they want to run ads and they want to have a clone do
some content and he would you would think, oh, a great lead magnet is how I use Higsfield to create blah blah blah
um ads for PI of that convert. That's not a great lead magnet, right? That's the next step. Wait, that's that
touches overlaps or the vid diagram overlaps too much of the next step. more of a correct lead magnet is
this seven vid minute video shows exactly how an AI clone made a a PI X this much or
it's like it explains how it explains the concept and the reason and the result and then the next step is the how
and the implementation right um but Tim what's like the good balance
with that and not giving like too much sauce, right? Because I can show like how, but I don't want to go into the
science of like putting together the bio, the story highlights. >> You can't give people enough sauce. You
just can't. Like what does Hormones do like 50,000 hours a day of like sauce that's distributed like that's just
there's never enough, right? Um I wouldn't be I would I would be concerned for you that you're not giving enough
sauce. Maybe that would change your mindset. you're you're probably even if you think you're given a lot, you're
probably not giving enough. Um >> really because Josh is the CD and I was telling him like should we do like lead
magnet like kind of auditing people's like bios and stuff and he's like no cuz that's a little bit of like what we
sell. >> But he's hitting the nail on the head that you shouldn't it's that's exactly
why I said you're not supposed to do that lead magnet. You're supposed to do the other. That's just
compartmentalized. I'll do an example. If [clears throat] I'm selling sales training,
I'm selling sales training and I know that to help someone succeed, they need to get nice at sales and I need to get
them connected or with the job board or apply to get a sales role so they can make money off a skill, right? The lead
magnet isn't showing them that entire process of the skill and then how to apply interview and then how to get the
offer and how that's not the lead magnet. All the sauce should be compartmentalized in either a lead
magnet just for the script like yo I have a five hour video going over how to get nice at how to objection handle f
and then naturally it's just that and you can give all your sauce but you know to properly actually make that mechanism
work they need placement and that's what they're paying you for more training and then placement there's the next step
right but you can even go backwards if you you could even do a a lead magnet of here's I have a I have access to over
2,000 remote sales roles that are hiring. Just comment the word list, right? And you know, if they're going to
access that list, there's someone who's looking to get a remote sales role, but might be asset sales. That's why they
can't land something good or they don't have the experience or the direct training or the certification to be able
to get that done. So, it's a component of your entire offer and you could slam and go crazy with that component. like
you could tell everything you know and more and do more research. Does that make sense?
>> So Tim, what do you think like about like I could say like if it's a lead magnet targeted for lawyers like what
your firm what your firm's client acquisition would look like if you implement these AI systems in
>> you got to think about it. Talk to Claude about it and get a top 10 and then you got to start seeing right try
it. See what lead magnets people want, >> right? Think about the act the best lead magnet you can make
>> is a demo of what you do of what of what you do literally. >> So it's like and who's who's really
technical in here? Luis, you're you're technical. Yeah. >> Or more more on the technical side.
>> A little bit. I wouldn't sound too technical there. >> But I mean you could pull it up and show
people how it works, how you're able to deliver your AI. >> Yeah. Yeah. And you're able to use
jargon to make it sound like, dude, this dude knows what he's talking about, right?
>> Yeah. Yeah, for sure. >> Made 10 minute videos of that over and over, every day, over and over, just
pieces of that. And each one was a basically a you posted on Twitter, LinkedIn, Insta, and had it direct to
that with the optin. You're going to get so many leads, inbound, so many leads, and they're hot, and they want to work
with you. They're literally going to DM you. Build this [ __ ] out for me. >> Yeah, I am. I was just listening to you
before. I just went and ordered a microphone just now. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
>> Started [ __ ] >> I [ __ ] with that. That's commitment. Hell yeah. Those like arms are fire.
>> Think you're locked. They just like know you're locked in in your office for but that's very important. Um, when I
I've worked with when I recruit for an editor and I'm trying to find an editor, the few people that I hit up, when I
look at their systems and when I book a call with each one and I'm like, "Oh, this guy booked a call
and it's just, okay, this guy booked a call, he followed up, he did this. There's also this website to look at the
I'm probably going to find an editor for this." Shows me this business takes it seriously, right? They're actually doing
the business [ __ ] like they're actually dialed in. So, it probably means that their their fulfillment is probably
dialed in as well, right? It gives you more confidence naturally. Just think about it for yourself, right? So, when
people come to buy to you, they need to see those points of proof, even if it's just one.
Any questions on the lead mag part? Cuz you guys should be running that every day. You should be scheduling one hour
for you to create something and distribute it, right?
It doesn't take long to record a little 10-minute video, 15-inute video. I have a list of I'll tell you guys
this. I have a list of 50 dream clients for GTM dream clients and I myself am going to manually create these looms and
these lead m and these systems for all of them, right? I'm going to manually set close email. I'm going to do what's
necessary to get those big deals. But it would be impossible for me to properly do that if I didn't have all of this
already in place, like these evergreen things in place. Yeah. Take a look at this. This is done. Okay. Confirm.
Here's watch this. This is more for your use case, right? >> Would you include um a demo or like um a
video um Loom video in like a cold outreach? >> No, usually I don't. I don't. Yeah.
Uh, have you ever opened a loom from a cold outreach? >> No, I just it was just off of what
you're saying. I was wondering if that's >> you know that business owners hate opening links that they don't know. Even
if it's.com, I'm not trying to get my [ __ ] drained. I got hella crypto. I'm not I ain't clicking [ __ ] [laughter]
And if you send it on Instagram and sometimes LinkedIn and sometimes SMS, it it'll report spam or not. It'll pop up
as the link won't be clickable anyways. You know what I mean? >> So, it's like there's no need to go to
that end. Um, >> yeah, I am. >> But
no matter what the I'm just trying to get them on the phone call as fast as possible, as fast as humanly possible.
Speed delete is massively important for this. Um, yeah. Any other questions? Clarificate.
Garrett said, "Lead magnet best offer too. Sign up for free. Once signed up, go to upsell offer. Nob- brainer. 27
then. Thank you. recoups ad cost. Depends if you're running ads. It's cold. Defense is cold, Garrett. Cold.
Cold. Cold is a different game, but he's not here anymore. Cold is a little bit different. I wouldn't do that just yet.
Um, you have to really crack what that $27 offer is. It has to be one of those like
funnels that's like stupid long. Um, but I'm still helping you guys crack cold. We do we crack by doing nurture
so they're not cold. The buying cycle is fast, guys. Like, who's worked the SDR job before or AE
job at like a corporate company or tech company? No one.
>> Me, [ __ ] If I [ __ ] was stuck in a conference room for three days, >> how long is a sales cycle? What What was
it did you sell? How long is a sales cycle? >> I do like a telecommunications for
enterprise businesses. Sell cycle usually. I mean, I'm I do it on a one call close.
>> One call close. Okay. I mean, if it was like proof point home security or something, proof point a corporate
security, it's like three months, like you're jumping loop, you're jumping through hoops, you're getting people
approved, you're finding the right people to talk to, but what we do because of such a viciously fast cycle,
you have to pre-urture, Jacob. So, I assume you guys had hella assets for them to look at.
>> Yeah, I mean, we're hella established. I mean, we have a full-blown portal demos, everything they can reach out to, a
>> vast amount of assets before the call. Yeah, >> very very mandatory and necessary.
>> Lots of pre- nurturing done by the BDR and then it's handed to the SDR and then SDR hands it to me the account
executive. >> Y >> yeah. So I guess really the sales cycle
from when they reach out from the BDR to where I close it is like two weeks. >> So my philosophy is always like my
mentor taught me if a S&P 500 company's doing it for the company, you should too,
right? Um, typically, okay, not every company, but typically companies don't just burn time and money
on [ __ ] They're their shareholders care about what their manpower, where the manh hours are going. So, for
example, Jill, my mentor, um, she's I love her so much. She actually used to work side by side with Steve Jobs. um
she's pretty old, but um she told me if Apple does all hands-on deck meetings every week, like every member of a
specific division meets together, you're doing all hands-on deck meetings. If companies have what does a company
dinner look like? You should be meeting with your team and eating with your team. um if the company has um if they
send certain uh basically even the pre- nurture assets if they're sending certain PDFs
guides quick calls you should be too right the principles that they do we need to copy so when we look at the
handoff of one person SDR to BDR to AE even to the AM going four steps within one organization you yourself as a solo
founder has to you have to compete. You have to go to that level and you're going to crush. You guys are going to
wash, right? I'm trying to help you guys get to these higher ticket deals. This is
the only way to get to higher ticket deals. You want to close little $500 deals, keep doing what you're doing.
Um, you can de demand a high price when you've built the environment around
them, right? Like you go to Paddock, it's a nice ass building. It's not just like doesn't look like Best Buy, right?
um you have to create the environment especially when you're on a sales call you have to create a buying environment
but as is you'll see when when I sell GTM I will have lead magnets when Bowski has
yesterday he spoke um he sells Mayboom or something he's going to have lead
magnets he's going to have demos try to book a call he's going to have pre-urture assets it's all going to be
and SAS and agency services, the same thing. SAS basically your service world, software service rolled up. Um,
any clarifications? What's good, Mason? Stefan, anything? >> No,
>> that's what's good. >> Um, let me know in that affiliate link, by
the way. But um I'm I'm potentially about to talk to somebody who is starting a peptide
business. And um the reason why I say potentially is uh people I work for now u they have they have a you know a side
business that does like mobile mobile medicine and so they're thinking about getting in on the uh peptide side of
things. Do you do you think uh like what what should I maybe say to like kind of convince them to do that because like
that could be really big for me too. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. I mean if someone wants to you
just tell them to do it. I mean they're going to see how hard it is. People think it's just drop shipping. It's it's
really not. Uh, >> wait. So, do you think how about from the I know like typically the people who
are printing right now off of it are doing um uh they're they're doing research peptides and so it's kind of a
gray area. Um but this is compounding. >> It's all it's all research use only. >> All RO
only only. >> Really? >> Someone wants to set up their whole
business. I'm gonna charge him like 75 racks. I'm building out the licensing for Ascend, the whole licensing program
for Ascend. Right now, we're going to be charging like 75 racks. >> I hear you can get it.
>> If you guys my sorcerer processor, I got you. I got you. I got you guys. Uh but yeah, dude, it's a lot. It's a lot
building a business. Think about how much does it cost to buy into the franchise of a McDonald's? Someone
answer that for me. Someone hit chat. How much does it cost to start a McDonald? How much does it cost to start
a Wingstop? I'm curious. I lowkey [ __ ] with Wingstop. What's the actual answer for Wingstop?
What does a license cost? What's a franchise? What does a license cost? Not a franchise, a license. Same
thing. Is not really. >> 25K franchise. >> 25K.
>> 25K for a licensing fee for Wink Stop. >> Sounds about right. Okay. It's a brick and mortar. Um, how
sexy is the peptide? We're going to charge more than 25 for damn sure for a license for damn sure.
So you guys also can package up SAS in that way for enterprise businesses for for GTM if enterprise company wants to
use it. For damn sure I'm taxing them 25K plus for damn sure. Um for the AEO offer one of our new
students for damn sure he's enterprise companies 25k plus. Um, I was talking to some somebody
today. Um, they offer financial basically it replaces a CFO. It does all
financial and statistical analysis. He charges 30 to 70 bands, but he's he keeps on telling me he only sells one
one a month. He's trying to get help. Um, so you can really package you to package these offers or to charge that
as well. Like, you know, we're going to have pretty aggressive offers or assets in the front end as
well, but Stefan, anyone that wants to start one, like, just rip it. All right. That's why we have AF front runners.
Hella people do hella [ __ ] just overlap deals. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. I know it's research use
only, but the thing is like they want to do it through the prescription end because I know some companies are even
doing it through prescription. >> That's actually not legal. >> It's actually not legal. Yeah.
>> What do you think like they'll get sued? Um, >> yes.
>> Yeah, because you can compound prescribe it. Like you can get it from the thing and talk to a doctor and they'll
supposedly give it to you. But I don't know if they get sued. So that's why maybe I got to do some research. I know
this is not legal opinion, you know, right? >> There's very few peptides that are that
are actually legal. Most of them are just gray market. But >> okay, maybe n work.
>> Any other questions, guys? Opening a single wing style franchise requires initial estimate of 250 bands. Sounds
about right. Straight. >> You're saying that you license them. How do you do that? Like you personally
>> What do you mean? >> So you're charged 75K to do their license. So like how how do you do that?
>> We basically just duplicate a send and give it to them and now they own the infra. But we own the infrastructure. So
we're still not only do we pay 75K, but we make money every time they buy from the sourcer and we make money every time
they process. So the processor so we don't take we actually don't take a percentage revenue. We just take
percentage off the infrastructure. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Like we dude B already paid me 65 bands
to build a website. Like it's a dialed in website and his devs on top. So like he spent like 40.
You might see a regular ass website when you type in Assembio Labs, but it's no regular no regular website.
>> Yeah. >> Um, McDonald's 2.5. I want a McDonald's. That's a flex. Like, [ __ ] your Lambo. I
got a McDonald's, dude. [laughter] That's fire. I lowkey want one now. Actually though,
any other questions, guys, about what we're talking about today or just in general? open it up.
I feel like we're all kind of going over like infrastructure right now and I think you know the offer and AI is just
getting so serious and such a valuable opportunity that it's all about like treating it like a valuable opportunity
you know and giving that perception to the clients that it's a valuable opportunity by implementing the same
infrastructure as these bigger companies you know >> having having all the lead like the
nurturing and stuff like that >> I have a question >> go ahead
>> so how are how are you like getting into these like bigger AI automation deals cuz I've cold called for websites and
the agents but I haven't really dabbled in like the automation side of things like how are you getting into that?
>> Um I don't sell automation. I've never sold automation. Um even in Okay, even in the niches you
guys are in, you guys are still targeting the wrong people, right? Let's just today if you're in detailing niche,
you're stopping. But let's just use the detailing niche as an example, right? I could go target anybody and just cold
call these big lists and it's usually just some kid or some dude that's been running it for a couple years and he's
out there watching it himself. Brody's not paying you 20, 35 bands for a website. There's just no way, right? But
what are the biggest conglomerates? Swash, right? Go Detail. What else? Um, G. Oh, Gallagher. What else? Um,
even the field guys have their own. Even the no even the no water no um no water ones. Like I don't even know, bro. Um,
they have massive infrastructure issues if they're still hosting on Wix, WordPress, right? Sure. But you're
able to you need to have a different conversation with them. Now, it's not just the average sales call. You need to
learn exactly how that implementing a custom website would actually fit within an entire franchise, right?
It's like, bro, I'm about uh I'm about to I'm It's going to
happen. Um I'm about to make a custom website for Carbone. And it's not just the one in Dallas, but it's for all of
their [ __ ] Not even not just the website for the front-facing, but the website for every single employee,
admin, back office. I'm building out planning to rebuild their entire infrastructure
that's technically still selling them a website, but bro, this ain't no little 1K website on base 44,
right? Like that's going to be a 75 to $125,000 deal, and we're going to do it all with AI.
Um, >> how did you get in contact with uh Carbon or whatever it's called?
>> Yeah, you could. Is it >> just because you go there? >> Email them, but I go there so much like
I know the management and I know the people. They actually let me pull up with like lights, tripods, and film the
podcast in there, bro. They're cool. I mean, um, but some of these massive deals like you just got to work on. Um,
my people will say, "But Tim, you have money and connections." Well, every single oil and gas deal I've striked was
off a cold call. That's cope. Huh? >> It was off a cold call.
>> Every single All three of my OMG deals over 35K were off. The first touch point was a cold call. I don't have no oil and
gas connects. Zero. I am not old money. [laughter] I am hella new money. >> Bro, I'm guessing you buy these leads
off of like uh like open mart to get like the numbers of like uh >> it's a blend. It's a blend like open
mart. Um Apollo clay scraped from using claw scraped um using parameters just a blend. I'm
not tripping. I don't usually trip over where the lead comes from. I work every lead like it's a golden lead.
That's the true salesman mentality. I got a list in front of me. I just got to work it.
Technically, if they're a business owner, I don't even care. I could sell, bro. There got to be money in this list.
There's no way there's no money in this list. I see 300 business owners in the palm of my hand.
I would have to be really bad at sales not to be able to sell someone something in AI that I could arbitrage. That's my
mentality. >> Yeah. >> No matter like how big the business is,
how do you kind of justify like a 75k, 125k website um when you know you could have someone
else come along and do the same thing for so much cheaper? Like h how do you turn around to them and get them to pay
so much? And how do you like not feel that you should just do 50 and just like call that and that's good profit? How
mentalitywise, how do you >> I really like that question. Um, you you see, I could get
I could go on Fiverr and get someone to make me a GTM logo, right? I know what I want and it's just black
and then it's white and then it's the logo. Just make it for me. Design it for me. Um,
but it feels like [ __ ] this is extreme, but it feels like yay. Like Kanye was like do this for me. There's
so much more intrinsic value. I It's incomparable. Um, and when you just look at the status
based in a transaction, right? That's this principle is why they don't pay the Canadian or Indian kid to get it dev
because we're actually actively communicating it properly. what they need. And that's the most valuable
thing. Like, we know exactly what they need and why they need it and why they need it now and how it could be
implemented to save them more time and make more money and how it's directly customized and implementable into their
business all in a one-hour call. They're I am the only option, right? I like segmenting myself and making myself blue
ocean by being like, "Yo, search of like oil and gas AI uh integration. Not a zero, nothing." Yeah. So, we're
basically the pioneers and we're standing at the forefront of one big piece of advice I got from
Jeremy Miner that changed my life. He was like, "If you want to be nice at sales, you need to read a book.
[laughter] You need vocabulary. You need to be able to speak not only directly to them, but be able to communicate your
idea, your product, your service so clearly to them that there should be no other choice. We could justify that
massive price, right? But >> yeah, so if I was go
>> ahead, >> if I was on the other end of the call now like and I just said it to you um
you know, how have we kind of got to that price? What are you telling them in that moment?
So basically, I pitched and they're like, "So, how did you come up with 75K, right?"
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm be like, "Well, we make over a million a month."
Like, I'm giving you everything. The affiliate system, the sourcers, the license, the website, the back end, the
contracts, the >> like you tell me. You want me to charge you a million dollars?
>> [laughter] >> Right. And that's only from month one, right? Um so it's definitely about the
value as well. I mean I use that as more of like a extreme example just like you know look right but that's proves the
point that you have to be able to correctly show the proper authority and positioning and ask the right questions
to get them to realize that themselves subconsciously. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah.
If sorry if if they then turned around to you and said to you okay I've had an offer from someone else recently and
they told me they can build a similar system for 10 15 grand cheaper like what would your response be to that then?
>> For sure. Um why didn't you end up working with them then? >> I suppose that's the answer in itself.
Yeah, >> right. >> What was it? And they'll be like I guess
no. I'm like no tell me why didn't you? Right. Like, tell me why. >> It's cuz they were missing this. They
don't have this. I like how you guys do this. Yeah. >> If I was selling you a Ferrari for like
>> a hundred bucks, you would be like, "Fuck off. Ain't no Ferrari. There's like a lot of people's value is tied
intrinsically to the price though." You know what I mean? But it's a it's our license about to be a hella white glove
service like 75 racks. Our timeline is in 120 days. people can ROI or be at net profit, but that's
still probably maybe closer to five, seven, six, I don't know. We still have to figure it out. But it's valid just
like real estate. Usually when people give proposals to investors like, yeah, you do this, this, this, this, this.
You'll be liquid in uh about one and a half years. >> But then would would you say that the
difference same product someone's charging 60K and someone's charging 75K? You see the difference is how you
communicate that to the client. Is it all communication? >> 100%. I like the tweet. I There's always
this tweet that's like you just have to figure out what buttons to press on your computer and you'll have a million
dollars. Sales is the same way. You just need to figure out what words to put together
and you going to have money spawn in your bank account. Um,
so the literal diction that you use on the sales call matters. Joe, we did a sale
together, 10K for AICRM, right? Yeah. >> How many words did I say? Maybe like a couple hundred max.
>> No, dude. The prospect was just yapping away, bro. >> But still with the yap, like
>> I directed him down each path to get >> Yeah. No, it was perfect. >> Sale, right? Did he record it?
>> Yeah, it's in the channel session. >> Composing call. Okay. >> Hey, how's it going? I'm just going to
give you guys a complete end to end run through of after you sign up into Luminina Sales, how to get your entire
agency account set up from onboarding all the way until the actual live demos and fulfillment and everything. So, I'll
just get started. Upload logo. You can upload your uh agency's logo. Obviously, do this because everything's 100% white
labeled. So, you want all of your branding on all your demos, on your client portal, on your onboarding, all
of that. Set your agency name. Um, let's just say like AI systems for dental practices or something. And you can
know, you can set your your agency colors. Uh, booking link. You want to make sure to put your typical booking
link that you guys would use. And, um, obviously your website as well. Um,
I'll just do a example phone number here and subdomain. So, this is actually where your website will be located. Uh,
I would just do something related to your agency. So, I'm going to just do pipeline [snorts] and finish. So, boom,
you're onboarded. Your agency has already began to be set up. You can on this dashboard page, you can see all of
your usage that you're allowed for the month. Uh, and it just gives you a little run through of what you guys
should be doing. But what we're going to do, we're going to start with the brand. So, this is everything that we just
filled out in the onboarding. But you can also add in your own custom domain. So, if you if you guys want to push the
demos and the client portal to your own domain, which I really highly recommend that this is where you can link your
domain. So, I'm going to just give an example. Demos, we could use we could just do demos.pipelinepilot.dev.
And this would give us DNS records. Now, it should automatically apply for me. Yeah, since I own the back end, it'll
automatically apply for me. But there will be a copy paste DNS record. You go in here and you go to your provider,
which will look something like this. Let me pull it up. Go to your provider, which looks something like this. And as
you can see, demos.pipeline pilot is here now. Um, but basically you're going to go and you're going to add in the
records and the types as it tells you to. It should. Um, obviously this is going to be different per provider,
whichever provider you guys use, but this is just an example of Verscell. So anyways, you can go ahead and link
your domains. You want to do this so that it's completely on your website. It's completely 100% white labelled.
It's very important. And same thing for the portal. So you want to uh forward the portal as
well to your domain. So it'll add those records and now your your demos will be posted
to here and your client portal will be posted to here. So this is now on your domain and everything's going to be
branded towards you. Let's go to the niches. So niches, we have over aundred niches. Um more coming every single day
and you know obviously if we don't have your niche you can just request it. will build out your niche for you. Uh it'll
be done within a business day. So it's very easy to get your niche exactly how you want it on here, which is very
important because it just builds more credibility in the space that you're trying to sell to. So let's go to that's
just an overview of niches. You pick any of them. We have everything, right? Like over 100. Uh let's go to the demo. So in
the demos, this is where it's a drag and drop builder. You can build your own custom demos. You can see like all the
different nodes here. I'll make myself smaller. See all the different nodes like AI receptionist, AI chatbot, that
sort of thing. Um, you know, you can uh make them like half the width. Shows two side by side. Completely customizable.
You can change the copy up like enter in new website here or something, right? Like you can completely change the copy
up and it's completely custom for what you guys need. So, you know, if you were going to send this to a bunch of people,
you could maybe do a book a call CTA. But if you were just going to use this on closing calls, you would probably end
up removing this, right? Um, and doing something else. So, I'm going to just give an example for what I would do, but
I'm also going to demonstrate the Luminina assistant. So, you can obviously drag and drop all the
components in and edit them yourself, or you can click Luma up here in the top right and just ask Lumina what you want
to do, and it will go and do it for you. So, I'm going to give an example right here. go ahead and build out my demos
page. I want it to be built for uh the dental practice niche. And at the top, I want a AI receptionist and a chatbot
side by side. Uh and then just below that, I want an SEO audit. And then um at the very very very top, I want to
have the hero section as it is for the dental practice. So yeah, build that out for me. You just give some sort of
prompt like that. Uh, obviously dependent on your niche, dependent on what you want on your demo, but this is
just an example of what I want on the demo. So, Lumina will go, it will think through the prompt that you just gave
it. It'll actually go and change your demo right in front of you. So, boom, we're already in a dental practice
niche. It's moving some nodes around. And in a very short period of time, you'll see the entire thing done for
you. So, as we'll see, let's see. Save the page.
There we go. So, it put the hero section at the top. You got the air receptionist chatbot SEO audit, right? Um, it also
obviously changed our niche to dental practice and it saved it. So, now whenever you click uh publish right here
on the top right, it is live. So, you can click the view live button and there you go. It's that easy. You already have
live AI demos on your website and you can simply just click start a call. Thank you for calling.
How can I help you today? >> Hey Ava, I'd like to book an appointment.
>> And obviously you could run through the whole system with your prospect that's on the phone or you could send this over
to them and they can do it themselves. Uh chat bots, the same sort of thing. SEO audit. This goes full in-depth into
their into their website. So I'm going to actually I'll give I'll give a live example here. control practice here.
Let's just search a random random clinic. We're just going to click a this one. Sure, let's go. Website.
Good lordy. This website is something. All right. Um, let's just put this in here and run the audit. So, this takes
anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds. It's going to do a full in-depth dive into that website specifically. It'll go over
what Google sees. So, like it'll go through all their SEO for what Google sees for their website. And it'll also
give AI recommendations based on what we see with websites and what actually me what what actually makes a good website
in a sense for dental practices specifically. So right here they got a 78 out of 100. It's pretty solid. They
were pretty high on Google as well. So that makes sense. Um they didn't have the greatest performance so it was
probably a little bit older. Uh they had very good SEO, so very good keywords, all that sort of thing. This is what
Google's actually seeing. Um but then it pulled that okay, they don't have a contact form on their website.
So like the AI pulled that they don't have a contact form. So this is a very very easy cell to them of why like okay
you got to have a contact form on your website. How are people going to get in contact with you? Right? And it gives uh
just like a what to fix in order all the things that need to be changed. Uh here's some mis call text back. So this
just gives an example of um like a follow-up sequence that would happen if one of the clinics missed a call or
something like that. It just runs through a live example pretty much. Um, but yeah, that those are the demos, so
I'll stop there for the demos. Um, again, Lumina can build out a bunch of different things. I'm going to showcase
it a couple more times probably. So, let's go to clients. So, in clients, this is where you can actually manage
the clients that you currently have. So, you can just fill in their business information and uh fill this out, right?
So, phone number, website, all that sort of thing, and what you're building for that client specifically. Uh, I'm going
to do it a little bit different. You can add them manually here, but or you can order through a fulfillment service
through Lumina and then it'll automatically create that client for you, which is just what I'm going to
demonstrate. So, let's say you were fulfilling a client for our top tier package, which is a website. It's AI
receptionist, AI chatbot, SEO, lead nurture systems, online booking, online payments, and Google review engine. All
of that's included. $500 a month, no build fee. Let's say you sold that to somebody, maybe, you know, $5,000 and
$1,500 a month. Right. So, you can make a new client. Uh, let's just say like um test dental
clinic or something and they pay uh $1,500 a month and you charge them $5,000.
Uh let's just say like it's a monthto-month contract, cancel anytime or something.
And notes for us, this is important. So this is for the fulfillment team here at Lumina just so that we can deliver the
best product result for your clients. So notes for us, this could just be like for their receptionist,
they only want it to capture missed calls from them. They would like keep their human touch or something like
that, right? like it's whatever specifics that that client came up to and that you actually explain to that
client for what they want. Um, but then so this is $500. You can send the request and you won't get build right
away. Our team at Lumina will go through your request. We'll review it and uh we'll ultimately accept that request and
start fulfillment. You can see the process of this inside of fulfillment. You can just view your request. You can
see the status. Um so currently it's sub submitted. Once we would be building it, it would obviously accept. It would bill
your card and then uh you know you'd completely hand off from there. So if you go to clients now there's this
client test that clinic um you know you can fill in the rest of their information like you're dealing with
John his phone number is whatever here right you fill in all their contact information here and then this is their
client portal. So this is extremely important. So, right now getting set up their system that they paid um you know
you you as the agency owner pay $500 a month for, they pay you $1,500 a month for. So, you make $1,000 a month from
them, right? You can see all of that information here. And let's just take a quick look at their portal. So, you go
to their portal. It's uh it's all on your domain. It's all white labelled. And you know, they can see clearly here.
This is the build that's currently going on. So this gives them a instant source of like okay this is what's going on. I
see everything. It's nice. I can like actually see the build going on. It's just very very like reassuring for your
clients in a sense. Um they can see what they paid. They can see the status. So uh obviously we'll update the status as
the fulfillment is going on. Um and then there at the end once we finalize the product there will be a round of
revisions. So let's just move it into the revision status right here. uh whenever they're they are in
revisions status, they can click and put in they brain dump right here put in all the information that they can about the
product that they received and all the different changes that they want. So you get up to two rounds of revisions
through Lumina for free included with your price. Um and this is just so that we can get the absolute best possible
product for your client. So they can fill out all that information. They can see the product updates. So like um you
can post updates right here like we have completed the initial build or something like that right you post these updates
to their portal and it updates right it's just keeps them in the know and they can also submit support requests
through the portal just again this goes to our fulfillment team and it goes to you so that if this is a support request
about like some minor change on a website for example like oh I want want to change this word to this, we would be
able to see that at like with our fulfillment team. So then we would go and be able to change that for the
client very very easily and straightforward. Um you can also attach like their contracts right here. So you
can just send them the links to their contracts. You can send them the links to like anything else that you would
need to send them, right? And this is all just included inside of the client management uh portal for yourself. Then
you have onboarding. So onboarding is interesting. You can create uh each client gets their own onboarding portal.
So you can create an intake link and it basically will just create their um their onboarding form. Now this is a
default onboarding form and it just has uh it's a 48 question. It's very in-depth on purpose. It's based on what
you ordered, right? So this is a very very in-depth onboarding form. It's meant to take them a while because this
gives us all of the information that we could possibly need about their business so that we can give them the best
result. So, you can also make your own custom forms. So, let's say you were going to fulfill the client yourself.
You didn't order the service through Lumina. Then what you could do is you could go to onboarding and you can edit
your forms. Let's create a new form. I'm actually going to have uh Lumina make the form for me. So, let's just give it
a new task. Let's say create an onboarding form that's specifically for an AI receptionist only. It should be
for dental practices in specific. And be as thorough as possible with the onboarding form. I want to get all the
information as possible so that we can give and deliver the best results to the client.
You know, some some prompt like that. Let's see what Luminina does here. So, it should go ahead and make an
onboarding form specifically for what we asked for, the dental practice, and it will go towards the AI receptionist
specifically. So, it will create the form. We see it pop up here. It has 51 questions.
Um, and it's done. That easy. It's that quick, that short, that easy. Now, we have specifically dental AR receptionist
intake. So let's say you sold them a an AI receptionist intake. You could go to your client. You can go to the forms,
edit their form, and you can give it that dental AI receptionist intake. And now their entire form has changed to
the dental AI receptionist intake. And now if you go here, they will have the 51 questions from
that newly generated form. So this is specifically for the AI receptionist. Uh obviously you can fulfill these clients
yourself as well. So you can deliver your own product. Like let's say uh you know I'm having Lumina do that service.
I'm also going to actually run a newsletter for them. So I'm going to do a monthly newsletter
or something like that. They pay me. It's literally just like a 100 bucks a month that they pay me. Um
and uh just monthly automated newsletter. You could just add this in and then this
would go and show up in their client portal as well. So then they can have multiple pro multiple uh projects
working at one time. [snorts] Let's go into the team management a little bit. So this is where you can
invite your team members. Let's say you have a VA or you have a closer that wants to have access to the demos uh and
like actually able to edit the demos, that sort of thing. You can add in up to three seats included with your plan for
uh access to this agency account. So, for example, let's say you wanted to add somebody, right? And you wanted to give
them access to uh the demo page. They can change up the demo page and they can like you can give them full access
admin. You could also give them like delivery manager, right? Where they don't have access to the demos. This is
just for the backend fulfillment side. So, it's gated. It's all authenticated right here. And you can just invite
people very very easily to your account. It doesn't add anything any extra charge or anything. It's just the three three
included seats. uh referrals. You have any friends that you want to put onto the thing, you can
go um and earn free months. So then obviously you get the entire Luminous Sales SAS for free. Uh the more people
you refer, the the longer period of time you can have the software for free, right? Uh you can track all your usage
in here and that's pretty much the entire SAS. Obviously uh we've used a little bit of our usage for the month
already, but this is the entire overview of Luminous Sales. So from AI demos, like live AI demos, you got client
management, client fulfillment, you got client onboarding, everything in one place. Makes your life a lot easier.
Gives you a much better branded experience for your clients and ultimately keeps everything in one
place. So that's a full end toend setup for an agency on Luminous Sales. Hope that helps you guys out.
Yeah, I I was talking to Joe a little bit more about what we can build out for attribution and also just having
everything custom. I >> I need to figure out this um like how you're doing the whole like
influencer thing and like paying these people, right? >> Yeah. Um
>> if you got a plan for that cuz >> Yeah. I would I would never give you a AI a power CRM for affiliates without
telling you what to do with it. You know what I mean? >> Right. It's like giving GHL to just uh
you know the random kid on the street >> because you have to be careful. Like look, we had some affiliates locally,
right? And because we have a brickandmortar store, like we're like listen guys, you can't advertise in
[ __ ] Las Vegas because we're advertising already for people to come to our store. You can't step on my
toes when I own the store. Right. >> Yeah. >> And
you know, some of these affiliates like they one of them became so demanding. And I was like, "Go [ __ ] yourself, man."
I was like, "Check runs. We pay commissions on the 1st and the 15th, not the 4th, not the 10th, just cuz you're
broke and need money." >> Sure. >> I was like, "If you're broke and need
money, then I see all this Instagram [ __ ] You're [ __ ] traveling. You're posting. Maybe you need to throttle back
on that a little bit, you know?" >> Yeah. Or just or just make more. I don't know.
>> [laughter] >> Well, it was like, you know, I go, it's more it's more of a headache for me to
process the paperwork, keep [ __ ] track of the accounting, then I got to do 1099s later, right? I was like,
unless you're like selling, you know, $20,000 a month of [ __ ] your three, four, five, $6,000 of, you know,
affiliate marketing [ __ ] really doesn't move the needle, you know? >> Yeah. I mean either way like working
with so many peptide companies they usually have like >> one two 300 affiliates but it's just
like maybe one two dozen of people actually pushing like 90% of the volume you know what I mean right
>> like it's it works like that with sales teams as well like >> dude one one of the products that we're
we'll have in a couple and I'm literally 12,000 bottles I'm I'll be I'm sold out and I haven't even got the [ __ ] from the
from the lab in in A um is our our soft gel product. So we have peptides in soft gels. There's only eight of them you
could do like BPC, TB500, certain thing like we have one called 0304, right? >> Um so 0304 mimics a GLP,
>> but is it it's it's what? Cheaper, easier to produce. >> Oh, [ __ ] no. It's going to the soft gel
[ __ ] cost. It costs way more to make those things than it does. >> Oh, you you're talking about
ingestables. >> Yeah, ingestable instead of >> because there's about 40% of the market
out there that will never put a needle in their belly. >> They won't do it. So, we have
>> That's why the the nasal like C like Cax is just we like the nasal >> we have like I think nine or 10 nasal.
We're [ __ ] sold out. We haven't any we're just start we're just making it and we're already sold out. We already
pre-sold the orders >> now all of our [ __ ] because when it's nasal or ingestable you can switch it to
a dietary supplement. >> So then it doesn't >> what we found was like
I'm Jeffy's talking me about this. He's the guy that owns the um the whole the PP Pep Peps um wholesaling. He was
saying how like it isn't that people people who want really big stacks. It's sure you can say there's like the group
of people that would pin and then the group that wouldn't but at the same time in the group that pins it's they're
trying to create like just a bunch of mixes like sure there's glow glow like all that stuff but they're trying to
create like custom like you being able to customize your stuff on the website >> but you can't but you can't.
>> Yeah. But it's like, >> so here's the difference. Like most of these people, like my partner is a
[ __ ] Ivy League doctor, right? You know, pain management, heavy researchers. His dad was a heart
surgeon. Like his whole family, they're all doctors, right? So he gets into the research like he looks at the molecular
level. Then he went in the lab for two years testing out like the most, you know, your common peptides you see for
sale right now. There's about like 25 peptides overall for that you pen. So he then took the ones and he literally
played with the chemistry on each peptide to see what could blend and what could not blend because of the
pH levels. Well, like one might cancel out the other if you if you mix it like in the ingestable world cuz it's like
intercoated, right? So you got to have an intera coating or a salt coating. But for gel gels, it's an entic coating. You
cannot mix the copper with You can't make the GH GHKCU. You cannot mix that with TB500
or BPC in a gel cabinet. You can't do it. It cancels. But with with backwater in like the CL
or the glow, that's okay. >> But the other ground, it's not. I mean, the whole thesis on that was not only
does it allow people to pin less, so like people just want to pin once, like it's so customized to them that like the
hope is it's just extremely sticky. Like people just think, "Oh, this is made for me." Um because
you know we're always focused on 30 60 90 rolling day LTV and if we're really able to boost that up with just
something different features because we're still early in I you would agree right we're still very early for
peptides >> dude it's only like >> like very
>> like 12% there's only like 12% of the market that's on peptides
that's it. $30 billion a year worldwide industry right now. Like I'll tell you, you know, peptide seems to be somewhat
oversaturated in the United States, but it's not because a lot of how many people do you go and talk to and they're
like, "What's a peptide?" They don't even know. They have they're clueless. Now, take
Latin America, right? So, Latin America, go try to find a peptide down there. 10. Yeah, you were telling me. Yeah.
>> So, we're in process right now. We're doing it because we've got one of the board members of Kofperris in Mexico,
which is like the FDA. So, I'll give you an idea. In Colombia, if you want to get like a
drug approved such as a peptide, it only takes 90 days. You need very little studies, very little anything done,
rubber stamp. So, one of my friends like his mom used to be like the uh she was the ambassador or she was in their state
department in Colombia, but she was like the Yeah, I think she was the Columbia ambassador to the United States, right?
So, like he's all into medical stuff down in Bogota. It's like anything you need, just come on down here. So, we're
looking at like some other stuff. Go get it approved down there in Colombia because it's the fastest and shortest.
Then the next spot would be Mexico. That only takes 6 months. Then you go to Costa Rica. So now you got three
countries of approval. But once you're in Mexico, we're looking at buying just a stupid little like literally you've
you've been to Mexico before? >> Hell yeah. >> Okay. So you see those little
likearmacies that ain't bigger than a bedroom. >> You could get anything at [laughter]
>> You go buy one of those for probably a hundred grand or less. Now you own your own little pharmacy. So the rule is this
because we have I think some act that got passed 20 years ago. If they have a prescription in the United States from a
doctor for whatever it is, if it's not available in the United States, you as the patient have the right to cross
border and go get whatever you want as long as it's approved in another country. You just like pay the do
literally a prescription in Mexico. The legal you're supposed to do this by law. pay the doctor the $2.50 he wants for a
script, five bucks, whatever. And you're So you get a a Mexican doctor script, you have your US doctor script. They
then can ship cross border with the two scripts in the box. And on every consulate, state
department, embassy website, those are the instructions. If you're bringing medicine back, you know, or having it
shipped from this country, these are the requirements. So now you can literally start selling [ __ ] that they don't want
you to sell here, but you're just you're just having it come from a foreign country with the path of least
resistance. >> There we go. >> You know, now
things >> my buddy Rob Damon, you know, he's like a ClickFunnel dude, whatever for, you
know, Russell Brunson 14 years award. He does about$1 to4 million a week right now.
>> Wait, what's his company? >> Just look him up. Rob D- A M O N Rob Damon.
>> He's just a look call center. He's a sales dude. He sells out everybody's [ __ ] you know? So, he he's he'll go and
sell like people's, you know, investment the stock trading box and [ __ ] for 15 grand and he'll sell the [ __ ] out of it.
He wants to sell one of my tax strategies. >> That's sick, actually.
And he's like, "Dude, I can sell probably a thousand of these things a week. Can you keep up?" I was like,
"Yeah, a lot of people say that [ __ ] We'll see. [laughter] >> Easy enough." Um,
but yeah, let's um let's let's dive let's take some time. I mean, uh, is there any over the past couple days,
were you able to kind of create or get a better idea of scope? Um, that'll be extremely helpful for us to get to a
point where like we are confident we know what to actually build out for you guys.
>> I don't think it needs to be over complicated, right? It's, you know, basic
like you can build yourself a Ferrari, but you only need a freaking Audi. You know what I'm saying?
>> I mean, a Urus is basically Audi, >> right? It's name, phone number, email, maybe their address, customer related
information. >> Are you using go high level right now? What are you using?
>> I have it, but we haven't implemented it. >> What are you using to track everything
then? >> No, right now we've done nothing now in my my tax business. Yeah, go high
levels all all thing, but I haven't connected because here's what happened. Okay, if you ever dealt with physicians
and doctors, their view of what things should look like is just everything should look very
luxury online because that's their perception, right? But the common customer doesn't give a [ __ ]
They want a simple shopping cart that they can just scroll point and click. They don't want all this click here,
click here. It becomes very confusing. So, our website, Biomod Peptides, became very, very confusing. We we have great
SEO like it's been building it. We're getting traffic every week, daily, whatever. But the average person is only
spending 56 seconds on the page. So why is that? Because it's it's it's it the page is too busy. There's too it's it's
too much noise going on, right? >> I mean, all that UI stuff, it's just you just got to test to death. Like uh even
like for um even making a simple change as you know add to cart goes to as a popup instead
of the next page is like will do unbelievable things >> right
>> or like three-step checkout will do unbelievable things. Um, but >> what sucks is every look. Okay.
And who who do you guys bank with right now? >> Um, we have a couple banks, but truest.
>> Okay. >> Uh, >> so I just got, look, we're not even
doing much volume, right? Not near as what you guys are doing, but I have I've been banking with Chase Bank for like 15
years, right? So I've got good relationship, solid deposit history, multiple businesses in there. So the the
senior bank relationship manager, like the the like the the the boss here in Vegas, she buys peptides from our store,
right? So she's like, "Hey, listen. We just onboarded three e-commerce peptide companies last week
for regular processing." So I was like, "Okay." I was like, "Sign me up." Cuz my shit's running out of
Dubai and it's a [ __ ] pain in the ass because it's their >> processors. We It's just too much risk
if we're just working with one though. You know what I mean? Like it needs to be kind of a mix cuz as you as I bet as
you know like the processors in this game will change their percentages like damn near every month. No.
>> Um >> not not when you're dealing with not when not when you're dealing with a a
domestic bank. Your your your thing is never going to change. It's all contractual
>> like well I'm talking having rates at sub sub sub4%. >> Just interchange rate 2 point something
plus their 30 cent fee or whatever the hell is like it comes out to like maybe 2.9% overall
>> never going to have a problem. So that like right now I pay 8% flat with no rolling reserve.
>> That's fire. That would do the trick for sure. >> But what sucks is it's it's like a cart.
It's called Cell Abroad. They're out of Dubai and it it's they only pay out like every five days or like they pay out
every Friday and it's just it's a [ __ ] pain in the ass to some extent because the way their
cart's set up it's not my cart, it's their cart. So it makes it look like the transaction
actually happens in Dubai versus the United States. >> Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha.
And that becomes like so Chase will onboard me this week probably and I'll just go straight to Chase. And then what
I'll do is if you guys want that relationship too, we'll figure out how that works to get it out to Florida or
wherever you guys are headquartered or based, you know? But then now your processing rates go
from 10% or 8% to [ __ ] three. Yeah, we had a we were even working with a processor that was charging us like 20
something%. But um >> okay, there's there's three actual banks in the United States or now four with
Chase that are actually doing normal processing. Weblo Bank and Trust out of Colorado,
but you got to put a $50,000 deposit. That's that's their game. >> That's not even that bad, though. But
it's kind of No, it's kind of a [ __ ] >> No, that's a brick andmortar domestic bank.
>> I see. >> I want to open up one of those [ __ ] [laughter]
>> But um the uh >> Yeah. So, it's it's the whole processing game and then the like the reserves and
[ __ ] that some of these clowns um a lot of times like I'm got a friend
So, one way to do it is like, this is just a legal trick. Some of these guys, they'll give you a 10% reserve, 5%
reserve, um, and they will turn around and tell you to go [ __ ] yourself on your
reserve. You're never going to They'll just They'll come up with a reason to say Mastercard or Visa penalized. So, in
this aggregated account, we're taking everybody's reserve to pay the fine with no proof.
they just do it. So if you have you you create a shadow entity over here
that holds no assets and then if some guy starts [ __ ] around I put that that entity in a chapter 7 bankruptcy.
So, because this entity will owe debt to let's say a friend, a friendly entity, one of my friends, we'll put it and then
and then now the Department of Justice goes in and gets your money for you and they just take 10%.
[laughter] >> That's fire, >> right? So,
and then if they don't like like it just because it's all court order DOJ attorney, then they'll start
investigating the merchant processor that's holding the money and everybody else's money.
But yeah, some of these guys just think people will just roll over. I'm just like, I got a trick for you. It's called
chapter 7 bankruptcy. You can't hold the money. If Visa wants wants to make a claim, customers want to
make a claim, you got to come to this form and and put your proof of claim in. And the trustee will decide whose claims
are valid and whose claims are not. And most of the time they'll just tell everybody to pound sand.
But >> yeah, >> so I think so from a CRM perspective,
back to that, it's just, you know, I think it's just basic information, right?
No, it doesn't need to be complicated. It just needs to function. Unless you you unless you you suggest, hey, you
need this little bell, you need this little whistle. I don't know. To me, in my brain, I just need it simple.
>> Yeah. So, right now, what's uh you guys are you guys storing any data anywhere? Is it messy places? Where does
the output go? If you could just walk me through those few things. >> Right now, no data. I mean, other than
if somebody buys it, like if somebody comes where we screwed up because I'm trying to get SEO traffic and we didn't
want to gate the front of our website. We only gated the cart, right? Um
the if somebody comes on our website, we're not capturing any information about that person like which we should.
We should have a popup that says, "Hey, 20 or 25% off your first order." Bam. Enter your info here. We're we're not
doing that yet. We're in process because we're redoing our website to make it simple just to look like like pepira.
Very basic. >> There's kind of no need to do that though. Like we Okay, we've tested those
like little optin offers. We've also tested chat bots and to be honest that massive tam like
um it just needs to be extremely straightforward for people. Um, if we
truly look at usage or you look at a heat map of time spent, >> you guys are ascend as send peptides,
right? >> No. Here, let me send you my stuff here. Check the chat inside the Google.
>> Oh, send Bolabs. Okay, got it. Oh, [ __ ] There's a lot of send. >> They just want to be us. Chris,
>> I [snorts] hear you. Hey, you're doing something wrong if people aren't copying you. For real.
>> No, no. Look, if you're not getting hate mail, >> you're not doing it right. If you're
getting hate mail, then you're doing something right. [laughter] >> It's entertaining.
Uh, but I think for the CRM, there's two things. I think not only one having a dashboard for your customers and then
making sure you have enough clean data to be able to know what people are ordering in what trajectory and what it
will allow you to understand what offers to create. You know what I mean? Like I think people underestimate especially in
ecom like what the actual offer is if especially if there's like anniversary sale, holiday sale, this that is it
percent off is it um tiered? Is it like and what's special is we'll be able to build something that can that with
automation it's very very difficult to track but now with custom agents it could do it properly. Um that's why
people even though they'll are you familiar with hyros. >> No
>> it's like ad attribution even though people like like you know meta ads it just has like numbers on it like bunch
of KPIs and ads manager. >> Yes. We all know it's like just kind of there. It's like an estimate, you know
what I mean? Um, but the more and more I'm working with companies that are scaling above like what some of these
or let's just say a mill um when you're doing that much volume like you know each number a percentage just suddenly
becomes that much more important. You know what I mean? Um but we can definitely get the basic
information there but also um also we'll attach some statistical models that will help you make a lot of I guess
cleaner decisions. And then the other part of this is building a CRM or basically dashboard user interface for
you and your affiliates. Um, so your it's truly branded and your affiliates feel like it's their dashboard. It's
their home. They can see everything. >> That's what we need. The affiliate dashboard plus plus a simple CRM. Yeah.
>> They can see their payouts, how well they're doing, any Yeah. with directive advice. It could attribute to their
posts and look at their metrics. Um, so we can actually create something that's like instead of being like, oh, these
guys are making us good money, it's like, okay, these guys are making us good money because X, right? Um
but yeah that those two things uh I think it's you know I I truly believe there's only
about maybe half a dozen to a dozen true KPIs that actually matter and everything else
might be vanity. Um but either way like I'm sure having more insight would be like better than less.
Are you do you are you following Crush Research at all? >> Yeah. What about them?
>> Oh, dude. So, the dude that was running it, the guy, he kind of I think he sold it. So, all the affiliates that were
selling like eight that have sold like 8,000 vials, the new owner of Crust Research just basically cut their whole
affiliate channel. So, basically what it tells me, private equity came in, bought this dude out because he was doing about
a mill a month, right? >> Was good. He was the lowest priced guy in the game more or less or started that
way. You know, one, three, five and 10 pack type scenarios. Very, very low pricing. Big big following presence was
primarily on X. And now he just sold out. I don't think that company will be around three or four more months.
Once private equity gets involved, they think they're smarter than everybody else. They're going to raise the prices.
That's what They're going to crush the customer base. >> I mean,
all the exits I think are only valid is if Tella Health buys the data. You know what I mean? Like for people trying to
buy to then scale, it's like we've already done so much work to scale it. You know what I mean? It's like what
else can you add except more volume? You know what I mean? It's like >> right [laughter]
>> like >> well like with are you guys doing are you are you doing the tella health a
little bit too or moving in that direction just like getting that remodora like back in
>> I want to it's I have a background in I have a I graduated actually with the neuroscience degree and I'm I'm the
youngest federally funded neuroscientist in American history too which is also pretty cool.
>> I wish you were a [ __ ] neurologist. I could make you like just I could make you so much money in Miami on personal
income. Are are you on the neurology clinics? I get a lot of pitches for that. Uh
>> okay. So, let me let me tell you like what what else I do because you know I went to law school so I'm plugged in
with Las Vegas. I know I mean all the attorneys are my friends. So [snorts] there there's a
I'll start step one. You're driving a car. You get rearended at a stoplight, stop sign, whatever. And let's say it's
a very low impact rear end. Say 8 miles an hour. That's basically like an idle. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
>> So, in general, that little whiplash where you get jarred and maybe bump your head back on the the thing, it's proven
if the if the accident was a minimum of 7 miles an hour, that little bump on your head, you might not feel it, but
you actually got a minor concussion. You might not feel it. You might get a headache for a little bit, or you might
feel nothing, but it caused damage to your brain. Okay? So the diagnostic like the right eye test, right? You know what
that is, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, basically, my partner
developed an app that when the patient goes and sits with an attorney, attorney basically says, "Okay, take this little
10-minute thing. It'll give a basic diagnostic of whether you've got this new head injury or maybe you got a
concussion when you were younger. It's just unresolved. that was never the brain balance, the waves, the frequency
in your brain, it it never got fixed, right? So now we get the blame, whatever injury to your head is on this car
accident and then send a demand letter to the insurance company for 25, 100, whatever the policy limit is, they just
pay out. They just pay out. But so we have an FDA approved machine diagnostic. >> My head kind of hurt too, Chris. My head
kind of hurt too. >> Yeah. So the diagnostic side then basically you know most low impact
injuries the insurance companies on the car side are going to fight like hell. The the the the typical trajectory of
the treatment plan for that client patient is let's send you to primary care physician.
Primary care physician is going to make his like 1,200 bucks writing a report. They're going to send you out to
chiropractor. You're going to do your 20 visits. So you're starting to build the medical
bills up because that's what your damages are based on and that's what the insurance policy pays.
>> Yeah. >> So typically it's like you get medical bills times three times three. So that's
your your damage, loss of work, whatever. You claim all this [ __ ] But typically now the insurance company's
like, "Look, it's a 7 mph accident. It's impossible for you to have soft tissue injury in your lower back and neck. It
just doesn't really happen, right?" So they just say, "Fuck you. Take us to court. file your lawsuit. It's going to
cost you 50 grand to go to court over a $25,000, you know, policy limit. Good luck.
You're you're probably not going to win. The the attorneys will drop the case at the time, but the insurance companies
don't know how to deal with minor TBIs or TBIs. The defense bar, the insurance defense bar
has not like they don't have enough experts out there cuz there just aren't enough experts, right?
So the machine's FDA approved. Then we have the we have the diagnostic machine and the treatment machine. Okay. So
every time that patient comes to the initial diagnostic is 3,000 bucks. The treatment is $3,000 every time they do
the 30 minute brain treatment. Right? So literally my doctor or the patient's doctor, which would be my friend or
whoever I'm working with, the neurologist basically says, "Yep, data says concussion. We need to treat
it. It's going to be $30,000 to treat it. We're going to send a demand letter to the insurance company." And instead
of waiting eight or nine months for that check, they're cutting that check in 60 to 90 days. So how the economics work is
the attorney gets his third, the patient gets their third, and then the medical providers get their third. That's just
how the game works, right? So it's a volume game, right? So a $50,000 machine that does the diagnostic will make about
200 grand a month. Okay. But take Miami or Dallas. [ __ ] We probably need 50 machines in that city.
>> Yeah. >> Right. Or more. And then if you get into the bigger
cases where it's like, you know, a commercial policy, some dude driving uh the F450 for the construction company,
those are million-oll policy limits. So in that case, we're going to take this patient and we're going to bill the
medical specialists. We're going to max them out to whatever the treat the doctor says a treatment
protocol is. So that patient might be worth like 50 grand to us, one patient. But in general, each patient in this
space is worth a,000 a,000 to $2,000 a patient. And if you're doing a 100 to 200 patients a month and it's all just
referral, it's it dude, it's a the the equipment's 50 grand. That's it.
>> That's clean enough. I never I never heard of that. >> No. No. So that that that's just like
>> I've never heard of that. Not even once. Not even online. >> No. No, because it's it's [ __ ] law
and it's it's it's tor it's called torque claims. It's somebody rear ends you, you've been damaged because of
their negligence. You're entitled to compensation and then that's why we have insurance because insurance pays that
bill. Got >> their car insurance pays. And so there's a whole market for this [ __ ] And like
in this neuros it's it's untouched. And you would say, you would say, is that compliant or is
that fraudulent? Is that >> No, that's the law. >> That's the law. There's nothing
fraudulent about it. You got rear ended. If if the machine that's FDA approved says you have a head injury,
you have a head injury. They can't deny it. >> That's true. And if all the the the
research, which there's all the PubMed and all this stuff, I mean, it's all there,
there's nothing they can they can't say the head injury didn't happen because the machine said it did and it's FDA
approved. The neurologist says, "Yeah, he's got a problem." Now, this this piece of equipment, it's called Wave
Neuro. Check it out. It's an MET. So, they like magnetic. It's wave.com. >> Well, FDA cleared for the treatment of
PTSD is insane. >> Okay, listen to this. So the VA for because it's for the PTSD
is primarily for veterans like me that have PTSD. They're paying $40,000
for the treatment protocol. The machine wave neuro. So my partner is friends with the guy that invented that
machine. The guy's out of Orange County, California, Newport Beach. The machine's about 130 grand. So think about it. Four
vets pay for your machine in one month. That's Hey, that's better than real estate. [laughter]
>> Better than real estate. >> That's better than real estate. >> So you when you look at this whole like
medical equipment that I was kind of telling you about like structure, >> dude, it just it just it's it's like
clockwork money and people need the treatment. There's there's demand for it and not enough equipment on the street.
Now, you don't want to oversaturate it. You basically build your little model and it's easily it's scalable into every
state because you know you can own your own medical clinic, right? Without being a doctor.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Same [ __ ] You hire a neurologist because they're going to have to sign
off on the on the paper. >> What do you pay? You just you just hire one right out of college.
>> That's what that's what I'm actually working on closing on a on top of like a condo or apartment building. We're we're
buying it out for 15 square foot, getting a license, and then partnering up with a doctor that's arbitrage at $45
a square foot. And then we're also, me and my buddy, we're about to put all the machines in there. And basically,
>> like my part Okay. You guys are doing this in Miami. >> We're doing it in Dallas.
>> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Because I we're licensed
in Florida medical doctor and and and California. >> Yeah.
Okay. Well, I have Joe here. Joe, this is great. >> Hey, Joe. How's it going?
>> He's my CTO and >> um >> yeah, Joe, we were just covering
basically it's for Pepods. Um just basically CRM or organizing customers, doing proper attribution to customers,
um getting a clean dashboard for people, and then also building the user interface and dashboards for the
affiliate CRM as well. And then making sure people can log in. It's beautiful. Everything's tracked. The payouts are
proper. um people can see fulfillment timelines and then also potentially track numbers and um socials as well,
but it should be clean enough. I think this is simple build. It's probably like not the 35K and probably like the five.
Um but it's like um the main thing is if we could just get attribution clean and then the clean KPIs and then I'll tell
him a little bit more about the affil strategy, we can just get the CRM for it, too.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
But um Chris, is there is there anything um any directive for exactly what you need? Um because we can we can basically
take our existing knowledge of who we serve before and then deliver you something first and then make some
optimizations after that. >> Yeah. I mean we just like you you bolt it on and then we tweak it as we need
to. >> Okay. >> Right.
>> Yep. Easy enough. >> That's pretty much it. Um >> because right now we're I I need to move
all my domains into Cloudflare. Is that how you guys have most of your stuff?
>> Yeah. Joe, do you want to walk him through the tech uh the software stack >> right now? We're on [ __ ] we're we're
on Hostinger, which I hate. >> Yeah, Hostinger is just >> It's too It's too busy. It's too busy.
>> Yeah, I I've used a lot of Versel in the past. I've used a lot of Cloudflare in the past. They're both very solid. If
you wanted to move your domains into cloudfare, we can definitely use cloudflare. Um
>> because right now it sits in hostinger and then we're have the bolt-on, you know, what is it? WordPress with Woo
Commerce on the peptide side. >> Mhm. >> And yeah, because that's what the
processors say. >> You're kind of beholden to the Now I'm getting ready to So Chase Bank's going
to be our processor for our peptides now. >> Okay.
will be the fourth company they're they're going to on board. >> Yeah, that sounded new to me.
>> They've only done three companies. >> That's insane. That's insane. We still got peptide companies asking people to
zell them. [laughter] >> Okay. So, I have these other So, I have I'm invested into like a department like
so some of my buddies are like I was in the Marine Corps for eight years. So, some of the guys went to Naval Academy.
They're you know, SEAL commanders. Some of them are nuke sub guys. Um they're like colonels and above and [ __ ] like
getting ready to promote it to admiral. You know I'm an old dude. So um so my but they just created an AI system for
the department for basically the department of army and the VA and now they're getting into the thing. So
basically I'll just give you kind of the the the level. So I have like six partners in this other company I'm
invested in. It's just it's just military [ __ ] They built an AI system,
these these brainiacs, um, to
basically track all of the manpower in the military as it's getting ready to like you you serve four years, 5 years,
6 years, 8 years, 10 years, 20 years. So when I was in in the 90s, like nothing's changed in the military
when you're getting ready to get out since 1950. It's still the same [ __ ] Like literally, it's the same. You you
get a a a form, you have to go to all these little buildings, turn in all your gear, your weapons, whatever else that
was ever assigned to you, and you get a signature, and it goes into a hard file. That's how they work still. Nothing's
changed. So they were able to put all this into a data where the general sitting at the Pentagon can go down to
let's say the unit level and see what that soldier that sailor that marine that airman you know like what's their
what are they missing and what's the unit health is that 60% 70% the only way they can do that now is spreadsheets and
email and a phone call that's still the old they still operate in an old school. Now the weapons technology might be
different but not the personnel management right so basically they just got a contract I think we get it next
month for 284 million >> just with the department of army and 20% of that is so okay you've heard of
Palunteer >> of course >> you've heard of caliber
>> of course >> okay those are our partners >> oh yeah
>> so we fall under kind of their wing they're kind of our big bosses, but we develop the technology and it's easier
to co-partner with somebody that's already at the the level. So, they're basically getting the big contract. We
get 20% of that 284 million over 5 years. Now, most likely we're thinking they're just going to buy us out, which
is fine. That's what we want anyway is just the exit. But our next move is we're going to build the same thing for
like the Bureau of Prisons, the Department of Corrections, because that's like 2 million something people.
Um, and let's say there's 200,000 getting released a year, and they're still doing the thing the they're still
managing paroleies, probationers the same way as the military is by paper, spreadsheet, and email.
>> Yeah. I the the thing I love about that is that's also a um uh how am I blanking? What do you call
it when you got to go to into the court and then for them to sign it? Um it's u what's the word
>> the clerk? >> No, not the clerk. Um it's called um to like make sure this document is
like actually um >> oh the notary. the notary and it's like using cryptography and AI to figure out
notoriization of stuff like that. Um, and that can replace like so many dinosaur
processes. Like >> so this whole thing that they did basically like so here here's the
revenue model is if I'm the gatekeeper of all these military personnel that are getting out of the military, they have
certain skill sets. This AI system as they're checking out of the military, it takes their their military occupational
skill, all the different awards, all the different certificates. take tracks all their training and it converts it into
like a civilian here's what you can do creates their resume now I've got all these I become a larger like Indeed so
all these employers are going to pay me money to get through my gate to be able to market to all these people for jobs
and employment right same thing so if you hire a prisoner that just gets out of prison today you get tax credits for
hiring that person >> yeah Okay. And so these guys have the problem is is people get out, they have
they're clueless about what benefits or what like what's next? Most of them don't know. They're lost, right? Because
they have no direction. Well, here's a system now. Download an app. They get their little login, a messenger type
system. Employer says, "Hey, look, I know you just got out of prison, but man, you were a contractor before. you
know, you're a welder or something. We need a welder to go on these pipelines. So, the access becomes easier,
education opportunities, all this other stuff that's not available today. And and then the pro the the probation
officers can easily track that person of, you know, are they on time, paid their restitution, did they do this,
that, whatever, because it's all now in in one like platform where right now, >> give us one of those deals. We'll do
that, too. We could do that. [laughter] >> So, what I have these guys doing is we're doing a mockup site right now.
And we're doing a mockup site, let's say, for peptides, right? With no payment processing attached. Just
basically like an an ordering system that generates like an invoice number and then it will text like it'll it'll
it'll send an email to whatever we direct it to. The AI picks up the email and the order system and automatically
connects into say like my Chase Bank or Clover normal processing rate. So, okay, you sell peptides. Let's say I have I
have an accounting firm. My accounting firm doesn't sell peptides, but let's say I do the invoicing and the billing
for my customers. I don't sell peptides. So, I get normal processing rates. So, as somebody enters
in an order on this side, it triggers my system from the accounting business to send an invoice by text to the customer
and then they pay. >> Yeah. That that's what the biggest sourcer in the USA is doing but with
spices. >> Is what? >> They're doing the same thing but with
spices. The spicy spices business. >> Oh, and the spice that that stuff. Yeah, got it. But you could do that
essentially for peptides. And it's no different than, you know, a medical services or billing company.
They collect the money for the the clinic and then they just they they they square up every week, every whatever
their contract says. So, we're working on something like that um to sell like to these newer peptide because do you
ever have you been on Blake Blake's little like peptide power hour? Those >> Yeah.
you know, where he brings like I think because Jay partner Jay's been on there before and you know, just talk to people
that are looking to get them. It's brilliant what Blake does. So, and then uh because I think Daniel might do some
of your guys' processing, too, right? Um and you know, it's just like so here you've got people, you're getting 30,
40, 50 people every week that want to get in this game. That's perfect. You got a captive audience. Now, if I say,
"Here's your payment processing. I have a bot. It's going to cost you, you know, $1,000 setup fee, which who cares? It's
plugandplay. It takes five minutes for a grand. And then we're going to charge you a monthly fee for the bot, right?
That will handle all your payment processing. We'll set up your accounting business, the firm, so you control that.
Um and and and and and then it becomes as you know there's going to be a thousand people that get in the peptide
ecom business and there's going to be 995 of them that will go out of business in 6 months to a year.
>> It's people underestimate how hard it is to scale and how much risk you're taking at scale.
>> Right. >> Yeah. >> Well, and the amount of they don't
really realize that it costs a lot of money to really actually get in this game.
>> I'm drop shipping to peptides. drop shipping peptides. [laughter] >> Right. Right. Max, uh, one guy came in
my store. He's at a he's at a he's either in Dallas or Houston. Great story. I was like, dude, this is
where you need to go on the public speaking. Uh, because he's only like 25 years old. He started off with $50 in
peptides two years ago. Now he has a wholesale business. He's doing like two and a half mil a month. He just does
wholesale. >> There we go. No, that's um I think No, that's great
that you have uh a good background information on exactly the logistics of the business. Um cuz that's the only
thing that will actually I feel like in a lot of industries like you can literally work on the business
and like do the hires, do the management, do the but then like with stuff like this a lot of the work is
just p pure partnership or compliance or implementation of just new stuff to beat the competition. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. And collaboration like really if if if if we wanted to really make ourselves like a bigger player, you
collaborate with five or 10 people and grow it into a billion dollar a month company. Yeah.
>> That's valid. Um well, I got I got back tobacks all day. We got seven minutes here. I think that's enough time for us
to kind of >> book another what what Okay, there's two probably two bolt-ons. I got two
projects. We have our retail brand which is bio biomod peptides and then our wholesale which is our Korean-made
peptides coming in that's going to be >> biomod biomod >> biomod peptides.com
>> county Nevada >> and then what's the um what's the brick and mortar
>> so is look is there any way to take a CRM and like have the CRM connect like one CRM
and and funnel various websites into one spot. Can you do that >> or is it like each has to have its Okay,
>> we can. Um I think what would be super helpful is um this is kind of our basically our
breakdown or our timeline of how we like to work. We'll book basically an onboarding call um maybe like within the
next rolling few days where we can get all the information access login um all the techn should we push look at what's
your recommendation on where I should have the site hosted moved
what what do you think Joe >> if you do everything if you do everything on Cloudflare that's a solid
choice like Cloudflare you're never going to go wrong with Cloudflare um I Verscell is also good but it's a little
bit more like like dev. >> No, I mean I use Verscell for like other [ __ ] I have got you know we do the
GitHub thing. So you just like >> but I'm just saying from a >> so Cloudflare is because Cloudflare you
I mean what's crazy some guys was teaching me about um like there's enough [ __ ] like work
agents are very cheap in CloudFare like you can set up a whole AI system in Cloudflare and it's set up that way now
right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Verscell added all those features as well. They're basically like
direct competing with each other. So it's actually it's nice. You get really good hard or really good uh
infrastructure if you what what's your preference for cell? >> My my personal preference is Verscell.
That's what I launch everything on uh like all the personal projects everything else. Uh Cloudflare is solid.
If you want Cloudflare go with Cloudflare, but otherwise I would go with Verscell.
>> All right. So just I mean I have a Verscell account already. >> Um I'll just I mean it's there. I have a
bunch of [ __ ] work agents on Versel. Uh, okay. So, do Verscella's preference because it's it's easier to mesh with
what everything you're doing. >> Yep. >> Got it. So, it's an easier launch.
>> Yep. >> Okay. All right. Cuz All right. So, just
scratch Cloudflare and do Versel. It seems like we're beholden to freaking Google no matter what.
I mean, as far as do not email type related stuff, because then when you have the the Gmail, Google domain pushed
up in there, then all of the other widgets that you need for tracking and all this other stuff. That's just that's
where you're kind of stuck with that today, right? >> Sticky.
>> Yeah, very sticky. >> Yeah, they got a monopoly. A good one. Okay. All right. I can push everything
to versel today. Yeah, because I got to get away from Okay. How do you How is your guys's um
your store? Is it on Woo Commerce or No. So, we can get away from Woo Commerce. >> Yes. I mean, that would be an overhaul
of your entire system. Um, just depends on uh what you if you want to overhaul your front end. Um, it'll be a little
bit different, but >> No, I I've got a team that can do that. We just need to
>> You should though. I mean, you you definitely should, though. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. No, I I hate this whole I I can't stand it. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, and then so Ascend Bolabs is is sitting up in
Verscell, correct? Um, it's it's completely custom as I think it is. Is it is sitting on it? It
is. >> Okay, got it. So, push it. Okay,
we'll we'll work on that in the next couple days. I don't care if my site goes down. It's
not producing any [ __ ] revenue anyway. It doesn't matter. We make all our money in the store, man. Yesterday
we did like six. Just foot traffic yesterday was like six grand. That's [snorts] insane. A little brick
and mortar. RUI RU. >> Dude, it's it's literally it's it's only 400 square feet. Maybe 430 square feet.
>> That's it. >> Pop up like 20 locations. Is that um but Chris, I got to run to another. Let's
typically our process is we'll do u an basically we'll have a timeline out of we'll just give you a form of um
basically just filling out enough information that we need to basically get everything set up not only info but
access to like different login. Um and then we'll book another call after that where it's more of a we'll deliver it to
you. Um and then two weeks out we'll just book another finalization call where it's more mainly if we need to
make any optimizations changes and that will also be the call where I will basically consult you on how to use the
affiliate CRM the best or kind of our strat to make sure uh you know people not only how to find these affiliates uh
but also how to get them to properly track and use it and um just getting that process set up um in general um for
the basic buildout. Now me and we we're at 5K um with those two things. Um also with the two basic optimization
consults, I mean we'll usually go a grand every extra, but >> um I don't know. We're at five should be
fine. Um if that's good with you, we can probably get delivered within like a week.
>> We'll do like five. It'll be times two. So is that because I'm going to do two websites and then we'll just
interconnect the back end together. So 10K Yes. >> Yeah, that's fine.
>> Um, and then I'll create a in the group. We already have a group chat and then I will basically just uh we'll send you
that doc or basically a form to fill out everything and then we'll just go back and forth in the chat to schedule our
next call. We'll go as fast as possible. We have a bunch of projects we're working on, but I'll make this priority.
>> No, it's it's Look, I mean, we're >> Well, let's do it. I'm running. I just told
>> I'm running late. >> I'll look for you guys email or or whatever.
>> Yeah, I will. Can you if you could put your Oh, is it is is your correct email? I'll send you the doc and then also uh
an invoice through the business bank account wire. Does that work? >> Yep, that's for that's fine.
>> Okay. Um and then >> and just send me your wire instructions. >> Okay, easy enough. Um and then me and
Joe will get back to you as as fast as possible. We're also extremely responsive. Whatever you need, like I'm
literally always on my phone. >> Joe, where are you based out of? Florida. Just moved over to uh Orlando.
>> Okay, got it. How you liking it? Where'd you move from? >> Love it. Uh I was in Wisconsin
and then >> Cheese Factory. >> So much better. It's so much better.
>> Well, dude, it's Look, look, the grass is greener always when you move from, you know, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota
area. Now you're in some warmer weather, milder winters, you know, and the chicks are and the the
chicks are hotter. [laughter] [clears throat]
>> All right, guys. Thanks, man. >> Hey, good call, Chris. That's talking. [music]
[music] >> Today I'm with one of my dogs in AI inner circle. This is Jacob. What's up?
>> Uh, tell them about you. Uh, TLDDR, like what's your story? >> [ __ ] bro. Uh, $8.2 million sold in B2B
sales. I [ __ ] started at 19. I'm 29 now. >> Yeah.
>> So, I mean, it's it's all about getting after it. All about seeing opportunity and going after that [ __ ]
>> Love sales. >> And what kind of sales did you do and what led you to the point of starting
your AI agency? >> Uh, it was voiceover IP, uh, telecommunications and then fiber.
>> So, yeah, door to door. Sometimes I get leads on my calendar, you know, but really it's just doornocking and really
finding those leads and and making the system I already have better. So I'm pretty pretty used to improving systems
for businesses. >> I see. So you were a sales rep for these businesses and now moving into the last
one two months being a business owner um kind of what's what's the difference? >> [ __ ] bro. It's a real it's a real
business first of all. Like selling AI, meeting the customers, meeting timelines, you're running a business.
You're a business owner. Yeah. You know, so I mean that flip to the mindset, I mean really it's it's if you want to
make the most, you got to make it all. So you need to be the owner to make it all.
>> True. >> So I mean you can't make and achieve your dreams while working for other
people. >> Yeah. >> So people are just going to nerf you at
the door every time. >> Yeah. I mean like usually sales reps get paid five 10% of deals.
>> I was getting paid six. >> But yeah, I'm saying instead of just taking that lion share
>> and then arbitrage the developer and give him 6%. >> And then we have the other
>> do the desert cracks, bro. >> Yeah. You know what I'm saying? >> And I think that nowadays like devs are
the commodity. So now >> the world and these businesses just need guys like us
>> to sell it to them and tell them you have educate them on you have XYZ problem and we have ABC AI solution
where it can save them time or make them way more money. I mean >> yeah when you're talking about business
owners it's making them money saving them money. Yeah. >> Saving them time,
>> right? I mean, it's just a it's a no-brainer for these business owners as soon as they recognize the opportunity
on what's the table and what we can do for them. It's oh yeah, it's [ __ ] game on.
>> Hell yeah. And what made you go from just be like, "Yo, I'm all in on AI, right?" What made you actually make that
flip? >> I think it's all about recognizing opportunity. Um recognize the
opportunity with AI. I mean, like I said, it's it's a no-brainer when you're meeting with these business owners and
these systems are in place >> 100%. So, I mean, >> they usually when they see the demo
during the pitch, they're like, "Oh, I need that." [ __ ] I need that. How much is it?
>> It's not even a sales call. >> Yeah. It's like It's like check this out. You know,
>> it's like a Eureka moment they have. Like, >> it's sexy.
>> Yeah. I mean, sales something has to be sexy. Phone service, internet, everybody has it. It's not sexy anymore.
>> You know, it used to be top of line technology, but I mean, AI is coming and it's here to stay. And I think, you
know, getting these business owners, being able to talk to them and not manipulate them, but just be able to
kind of change their mindset and get them to realize the opportunity that's on the table with AI and that they're,
you know, kind of hit that little fear of loss button for a second. Say, "Hey, your competitors are doing it.
>> Hey, your competitors are answering the phone quicker than you are. Hey, they're getting back to their clients quicker
than you are." >> You know, they they realize the opportunity that's on the table.
>> That's cool. And I know that you were playing with starting to sell AI and then you joined AI inner circle. um what
are kind of your numbers uh ramping up? >> So I mean throughout my years of sales crushing quota killing sales reps I've
unfortunately always been someone that's been needed to tell like someone needs to tell me what to do.
>> Yeah. >> You know um so joining AI inner circle being surrounded with the coaches like
Garrett doing multiple six figures a month. Ro who's a AI wiz and is doing crazy numbers dude.
>> Um Tristan kid that's younger than me doing 20 30k a month. you know, getting in these communities and getting in this
circle, it really just makes everything seem real and feasible. >> Yeah.
>> You know, you see the stuff on Instagram, you see LAR, but the LAR is crazy nowadays.
>> Yeah. It's true. >> Um, you just kind of think it's all fake. So,
>> it's it's proximity to success. Exactly. >> Like you see guys that are doing exactly what you're doing, but those few tweaks
and changes or just like mentality on how they approach business or the volume you have to do
>> just like makes you have like try to catch up. Exactly. Exactly. >> So like what what are your numbers like
what what did you do your first month rolling into the second? >> So I mean my first month I did $6500
cash collective $2,000 MR >> first month. >> First month while working a full-time
job >> that dude that's that's like >> big respect actually.
>> Yeah. So I'm still working at W2 sales job right now. It's just to get the bills paid. Um but within the next
couple months it's [ __ ] you. We're going all in on AI. I mean I'm already all in on AI. I'm not even hitting my koa.
[laughter] >> You know I'm putting all my time to dying these customers. Yes.
>> You know, um but yeah. >> And what do you think is uh kind of the the biggest lever that allowed you to
make your first few sales, right? Cuz you just have to make your first few sales and then you're like, "Holy [ __ ]
I just >> duplicate this." And >> I think there's a community.
>> I mean, like when you're seeing everybody else talk about, hey, look at this sales call. How did I do? Hey, you
know, these are this is what I'm building. This is what I'm offering for a customer. And you also have the
success stories of what people are implementing for their customers as well. was like, "Oh [ __ ] like this
works." >> Like, like I said, I just need to be told what to do. So, seeing other
systems that people are putting in place and are actually working for business owners, like I was like, "Oh [ __ ] I
just need to do this. Like, this is working. This is possible." And I know for a fact if somebody like Tristan, you
know, Tristan's cool, but if he can do it, dude, like >> Yeah. Yeah. And I could do it, too.
>> Like, come on. Like, if you can do it, T, I can do it, too. If Gary can do it, I can do it too, you know? So, I mean,
hitting multiple six figures a month with AI is just inevitable at this point. Y
>> it's really just all about the grit, locking in, putting in the time, and and just staying dedicated to this
opportunity. >> Yeah. Uh and if you could dive in, like what were those deals in your first
month? Those first deals you struck. >> What did you sell them? And to who did you sell them?
>> My first client uh was a home cleaning company. Um all I'm doing for them is purely after hours collection.
>> So these guys are living in their inbox. Um we're now implementing stuff into their social media. So they don't even
need to they can just hands off their inbox the whole entire time. The owner is actually getting married in Italy
this week and we're managing his whole entire uh social media and he's like Jacob like should have seen you an
invite. Like I'm not even working over here. I thought I was going to have to work during my wedding day. You know
it's like that's the life of being a business owner. You know that's some people don't realize like you're going
to be working on days even your wedding day. >> True. Sure.
>> You know so it was a home cleaning company just after hours customer funnel. No not even a voice
receptionist. >> They don't want people to talk to robot. Yeah. Sure.
>> Um second deal plumber. Um, once again, just voice receptionist, uh, AI agent, texting agent as well. Yeah.
>> And then my third client was actually on a spot fuller. >> Yeah, I remember that. You got I
remember you got three key in cash. >> Yeah, bro. >> I remember that. That was a good deal.
>> So, I actually I took this from my gym, which is funny. Uh, shout out Absolute Recomp. But I did $1,500 for the
buildout. This super small operation. Yeah. >> Uh, and then 750 a month, but I take
first and last month up front. So, the cash flow is really nice. And then in my agreement, I have that the first 30 days
for the buildout count as their first month. >> Yeah.
>> Yep. So then I'm able to bill for the MR as soon as we launch. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So >> and so Todd you're scaling for home services, local businesses.
>> And what would you say on the there's like cuz you know guys in inner circle some guys can build things out
>> but I'm I always push guys to arbitrage. >> Yeah. arbitrage cuz for me I I know stuff about AI now being in the space
but like I wouldn't lie that I'm the most technical guy but I could really [ __ ] sell AI though and just
arbitrage dev moves to the next deal. So like what's your style? >> Uh I definitely like arbitrageing the
dev. I mean in my VOIPE and my internet career the more I knew about the product and the technology the more confident I
was able to sell. Right. >> Yes. You still need to know the technology. You can't debate it.
>> You know how to use it. If if a customer is going to ask how it's built you should be able to answer that question.
Yeah. >> Um I don't really [ __ ] with the kids out here saying, "Oh, I don't know my devs."
You know, it's just like like if if you want to seem competent in front of your client who's a business owner and you're
also a business owner, you should know how these systems are actually built. But I mean, I don't really [ __ ] I'm not
[ __ ] with call. I write a few emails here and there, but I'm not over here grinding. I'm phones.
>> Yeah. No, you just have to show yourself that you're like the expert in AI. >> Um especially cuz our business model is
so tied to >> just upselling stuff. We have to show them we're the professional, we're
responsive, and we Yeah. And we actually know what we're doing with AI. Uh >> but yeah, I'm not gonna spend every day
like 10 plus hours grinding it out for my clients. Like there's going to be guys who can get it done at, you know, a
great job at a great rate, too. That gives us our spread to move to the next deal. You know what I mean?
>> Yeah. Absolutely. >> Uh but do you have a goal for let's just say six months down the line? Where do
where do we want to be at for real? >> I need to be at six figures before the end of 2026.
>> 100k rough? >> Yep. >> Oh yeah.
>> Uh I think by the end of October, I at least want to be at 45K total cash collected.
>> And with our style of scale, it's with sales reps, right? So what's your plan with the setters? Like what's your plan?
>> You know, I hate being on the phones. So I I'm really excited to outsource that setter. And then also sales reps like I
have a few guys that some dogs I've trained from the boys IP space that are like getting bored of the technology
already and they're like >> it's it's setters right like Misha is doing what quarter million a month and
he has over 50 phone setters and four closers dude >> that's [ __ ]
>> Yeah, he's he's here in Miami too. >> That's nuts. >> It's nuts the volume you could do with
>> Dang. That's that's a insane set to close. >> We'll talk about it. We'll build it out.
Yeah. >> Uh but yeah, dude, if that hard goal, um I think if you just create a tracking
machine and you put that in front of your computer or your wallpaper, you're going to get there.
>> Got to implement them chiao SLTs, baby. [laughter] >> Hell yeah. Uh and yeah, we'll end it
with if you could give these guys a piece of advice or if they're on the fence about getting mentorship, joining
AI inner circle or taking AI seriously, like what do you have to say? >> Really, it's all just about an
investment in yourself. If someone's willing to put in the grit, be active, track their KPIs, and lock in with the
coaches like Garrett, Archie. Yeah. >> I mean, >> it's daily daily coaching.
>> Yeah. Daily coaching every single day. There's really no excuse. And plus the I like how the coaches at the end of the
day because you get to kind of reflect on everything you did for the day and okay, [ __ ] I need to do XYZ better
tomorrow. >> Um the community, I mean, people are building out systems every day in there.
You literally have a channel just for the devs. particularly, hey, I'm having this issue or hey, you know, how do I
get this implemented? Within five minutes, they're already respond replying to you and telling you how you
can get it done. >> So, Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I think I just want to bring hopefully rolling
into the new months, I'm going to bring in even more coaches, more speakers. >> Um, because I want to truly AI inner
circle, I want to make it like a cabal >> like it's just the hitters in AI. And if you want to start your AI business or
even scale, go from 15 to 30 to those 100k months, like we we got the SOP for it. And we got the sales process for it.
That's why I love working with sales guys like you cuz it's just like >> you guys are worried about like the
little dev thing here and there and the building. It's just like let me just sell and make money.
>> Let me put my foot on the gas. >> I'm not in the brakes. I'm not turning left or right either.
>> We're go straight >> We'll watch back like we'll watch this video together in six months, bro. We're
in six figures, bro. >> By the end of this video, you guys are going to want to copy our AI businesses
for real. Um, but tell them about you, Garrett. Uh, yeah. Who are you? What do you do?
>> It's a It's a kind of crazy question, right? A lot of people are always like, "Okay, Garrett, like
>> what made you so successful? Where did you even come from?" Right? And, um, I didn't really have much of a direction
growing up in life. Like, I was more into like art and working in clay and stuff like that. And uh something I
don't actually talk about very publicly a lot is from the foster to fortune thing. I I grew up my whole entire life
in and out of group homes. My parents weren't really the best and I just took that as okay, well if if they weren't
the best, I didn't really know what good parenting was or good good lifestyle was or or growing up doing that much stuff.
So I was just going from foster home to foster home, going from friend group to friend group, high school to high
school. >> And uh it was just hard to hold on to something, right? So I was like, "Okay,
what am I going to do with my life? Am I going to go to the military? Am I going to, I don't know, work construction
somewhere or just work with my hands or try to get into art or just do nothing with my life? I honestly didn't think
much was going to come after 18 years old. And then finally 18 years old came and I went off to college. I was like, I
need to do something. Found my way out in Tallahassee, went to Florida State. >> Oh yeah. gunnels [laughter]
uh with the Florida State and some guy approached at a bar was like dude like this is what you can do in marketing in
software in marketing and I was like what he was like SMMA and I was like what is SMMA?
>> Yeah, >> social media marketing agency. I was like dude I'm not going to post on
people's Facebook accounts and like post their statuses and stuff, right? I want to
>> I want to make real money. And he was like no I'm telling you. And he was like, "Just buy this course from me.
[laughter] Like, buy my training." And I was like, "You allow how much?" He's like, "Three
grand." I'm like, "Dude, I'm a freshman in college. >> My rent's like $600 a month." Like,
>> but in hindsight, >> was that that might have been the best decision you ever made for?
>> That was the best $3,000 I ever spent. But, but let me be clear here. I asked everybody for money.
>> I was calling up people I haven't spoken to in a long time. I was going to work some bar jobs and really trying to sell
like bottles at my job and stuff >> and I got the money to pay for it. And his thing was, "Hey, I just need you to
call people's businesses." >> Yeah. >> And say you're going to run their like
Facebook and their Instagram and stuff like that, their social medias below minimum wage. And they were like, "Oh,
what's the price?" I was like, 1500 a month. And they were like, "And you'll work full-time for me?" I was like,
"Yep." >> But it only took me an hour to two hours a day for each one. And I've get like 13
or 14 people to do that at as a freshman college. I was making over like 14 grand a month.
>> Oh yeah. >> So that was the the beginning of getting into this world, the info space, the
marketing space, the the uh the entrepreneur space without working at a bar somewhere.
>> Yeah. And how how did you pivot to AI? What what happened between you know that that like event happening like that
point of uh your life in college to now like uh walk us through a good TLDDR? >> Yeah, TLDDR. Uh, I started a software
company out in Indiana with a couple other people. I wasn't the original founder, but I was among one of the
first 10 employees. Uh, and we launched a beautiful LinkedIn automation company. This is like fully on automation.
Everybody was like AI this, automation that, AI this, right? And we scaled that company to 140 employees. We had an HR
department like like we had a beautiful office. We had Nerf Wars every weekend. Like, dude, it was so we had a whole
arsenal of this Florida. This is in Indiana. >> Indiana.
>> We had a literal closet with Nerf guns. I mean like like giant not like little like like PP shooters. I'm talking like
giant automatic weapons, right? >> Fire. >> Um and we just we we scaled that. It was
super fun. And then at the time everybody was like oh AI this artificial intelligence that when like Will Smith
video started coming out the spaghetti one. >> Yeah. Everybody was like oh this is
never going to be a thing. But every but in our business in our world automations were a thing. AI was a thing as we
thought. But we thought automations meant AI, right? We didn't realize automations and AI was a completely
different story. But that's where I scaled and got into that AI world. And then after we exited that company, I
started learning more about artificial intelligence, AI conversations, just just conditional logic, which is
essentially what AI came from. Just a ton of conditional logic allin one as intelligence is a brain. And
one thing led to another. I scaled more into into CRM when go high level was in alpha stage. They were trying to do a
bunch of AI stuff. It was great. I was helping them out. From there I was like this is the best way to make money right
now is AI. >> Yeah. >> And it just it just took off. It's it's
like this the fastest thing I've ever seen. Multiply. Like you're you're in freaking science. You know how like cell
division works, right? Imagine a ton of cell division >> multiplying like crazy. And that's
that's what happened with AI. That's how I was like this is going to be the best thing to make money in. Period.
>> Thing is, we're still early, man. >> Yeah. That's the crazy part is >> we're still so early. A lot of people
are like, >> man, everybody's doing this now. Like, how am I going to
>> It's just your bubble. [laughter] >> That's it. >> Like a lot of people that
>> it's just your bubble. A lot of people are like worried about scarcity and worried about, oh, everybody's selling
AI. Like, first of all, we are way too early in this right now. >> There's incredible amounts of things
that's going to be going on over there. >> Yeah. Didn't Didn't the AI inner circle we dropped the stat? 30 something% of
businesses don't even have a website. They don't have a website. >> So, what percentage of businesses don't
have AI? [laughter] It's like >> I I'll be hanging out with some random
people anywhere else and then I'll be like, "Oh, yeah. Or AI this." Like, and they'll just be like, "What do you
mean?" And I'll be like, "You run a a business, right?" Yeah. And how many people are calling you every day? A ton.
How many people are getting missed calls every day from your thing? Ah, the probably like a 20
30%. And you don't implement AI, something that automates specific conversation within your business. Oh, I
don't know how to do all that. I'm afraid to use Claude and afraid to use chat GPT because of whatever. Like,
dude, it's incredible how many people are not doing this. >> Yeah, I think it's just there's like a
couple ways you can have limiting beliefs because even for me, like I didn't make the full pivot until like
maybe half a year, a year ago. Um, and I always felt like, oh, I'm behind. Oh, I'm behind. I'll just do it later. I'll
just do it later. But then the one week I decided to lock in on it, I was like, yeah, I'm not doing anything else but
this. like this has to be the golden opportunity right now. >> I think what changed everything was when
you hit that first 10k day, right? >> Oh, for sure. >> Like tell me about like your first 10k
day in AI. >> Bro, I with AI, I didn't even have like a first 10K month. I just went from
nothing to striking my first 25K deal. I was like, just skip just skip the 10K a month and just go after the big deals.
Um, and then figure out the implementation after, right? I didn't know if I could actually deliver these
things for the client. Um, but I was like, I know enough devs where we could definitely figure it out.
>> Yeah. >> Like I could spend less than 5k to figure it out and still profit 20k plus
off of it. >> Yeah. >> Um,
>> sell first, deliver later. Yeah. >> Yeah. But people people will see that and be like, Tim, like that's daylight
robbery, Tim, you're like just closing and finessing people. But I'm like, no, truly with the amount of time that I
saved that client, especially in OMG, and that if I 1.05x 05x their business doing hundreds of thousands to over a
mill like bro I should have charged them like 60 70k yeah if that um and it's not just that provided value but it's
bridging the communication between what their business needs and what devs can do right they're not going to go to like
some random like 15-year-old Indian Canadian kid or some [ __ ] and like give them the big bucks to implement right
they're coming to guys like us who actually can understand the whole picture and then segment what people
need and then plug and play you know what I Well, yeah. Think about like I know so many people who are really good
at AI and coding and stuff like that that don't know how to sell for [ __ ] >> Yeah.
>> Right. So, we have that specific amount of knowledge to know how to sell and implement it for AI and just show them,
hey, this could this is how it could work for your business. It doesn't matter what business it is. We know how
it can work based on looking at specific things that your business lacks. >> But we have advantage in closing, right?
Because usually in B2B when you get to like the demo pitch part of the close closing call, it's like you're fighting
an uphill battle. But with AI, like that's our favorite part. When we demo, it's like magic to them. They're just
like, "Oh, [ __ ] it. Like I need that. Like how much is that? I need that." >> Yeah.
>> Um and very little B2B offers have that element of like just like of magic or of play where people are like
>> getting really interested. So, usually on my closing calls, G, I always like I always ask people like, "Hey, you
remember when Chat GBT dropped?" And then it'll get them like thinking like those emotions will come up again. Yeah.
And then I'll remind them be like, "And did you stay up all night or what?" >> Um, and they're like, "Yeah, yeah, until
all the tokens were gone." Now, and I tell them, ever since that day, I haven't stopped. Like, it was just every
night was for every night for me. >> Uh, never. And [laughter] and yeah, I mean once they once they see
like dude it's been four years like yeah I need to implement something dude like it's been four years since chat dropped.
>> Yeah. >> Um and now like dude we're we were just uh driving here from the airport um
talking about starting this business, this business, this business. And with AI, we could one-shot those in like a
day or two for real and just get it launched. >> Um and the only mo is just selling it.
You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Yeah. That's really it. You just got to sell it.
>> Yeah. So, you said you were working on the LinkedIn automations and now you're doing setter stack. What's that? What's
the deal with that? >> The LinkedIn automation thing is still a thing that I'm doing as as well because
LinkedIn is never going to go out of style. Like, let's be honest. Like, >> it's the it's the best B2B.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> You posted the other day that the impressions were crazy, right? Like, you
can just post anything, but it's all about just caching that algorithm. LinkedIn is a great place, but um I
found the biggest issue I found a lot of businesses, specifically the circles that I run in is they're all posting a
ton all over social media, right? They're posting on Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, doesn't matter,
wherever, mostly Instagram. Every post, I'm not even kidding, every time I scroll, it's just always comment the
word this, DM me the word this. And I'm like, everybody's doing this and it's obviously working for some of the
biggest players and for our business or actually I was working on on my buddy's business. They they own a commercial
real estate business and they were scaling it uh really hard, but they needed Instagram automation because
they're just posting trial rules. They realized that running ads wasn't the best thing for them. So, they were like,
"Let's just post a ton of trial rules and it be free." And they were blowing up just by just posting viral viral
rules every day, right? And we were like, let's implement ManyHat to their business. Let's just
try ManyHat. We couldn't even make it past logging in. Like it was that hard to use their system. And then when we
finally did it just it was just not working out, right? So we even tried inside Go High Level the native um
Instagram automation side there. >> Not good. >> Not good. It was banning account. We
were getting restricted every freaking week. We were like, "Dude, what is this?" So um we ended up demoing a few
different other people and people were like, "Yeah, it's going to cost 5K up front plus $1,000 a month like or 15."
They're like, we remember specifically asking the salesperson. We were like, hey,
how how hard is this to really build? And the guy was like, ah, like it's super hard. Super hard. I was like, why
can't we just do it ourselves? And the guy was like, no, it will take you forever. And my buddy
>> Yeah. My Yeah. My buddy Raul and I, we were like, we were like, anytime somebody tells me something that I can't
do when building with AI, the first thing I think of is watch this. >> Like, I'm going to try at least, right?
And then I end up trying and I end up doing and I end up building it. So the guy said, "You can't do it." All right.
Guess what? If we build it and we succeed in building it, are you going to come sell for us? And the guy was like,
"Sure." [laughter] >> So >> yeah. Now he now he works for us. So
it's like so it's like um it just the transition from that we were like, "Okay, let's just build it." And
we built it >> and we built it for our own business. Not even to sell. We didn't even we did
not even build the software to sell. We built it for our own business. business and if it worked for our own business,
we were like great. We didn't we just saved ourselves a couple thousand dollar a month and now we had friends come to
our old time very successful entrepreneurs. I'm not going to name names. They were like I want that for my
business. >> So what so what does setter stack do? TLDDR
>> TLDDR what does setter stack do? Setter stack is a Instagram automation business first. So anytime someone comes a
keyword DMs you a specific keyword it's going to start conversation inside the DM and it's not just going to send them
a link or you know start that. It's going to literally pre-qualify and start conversation building rapport. Like
nobody buys things from people they don't like, right? Make a friend, make a fortune, right?
>> And it will start that conversation. Cool part about it is if you let's say you DM me specific keyword and then you
start speaking with your voice. >> I recorded a pre I recorded a thing using 11 Labs as well, which is
integrated in our software. You record like a three-minute long video. It's going to speak in your own voice to
whoever. Yeah. Right. And it's not going to say very long strings of keywords or very big words. It's going to use filler
words. Um, uh, it's going to be like, so, uh, basically, and it's going to sound real.
>> And even if somebody's like, "Dude, is this a bot?" It's be like, "Nah, bro. Uh, but dude, so basically, this is how
much like it's like it's super funny." >> Yeah. >> And then it just pre-qualifies. Ask them
qualifi qualifying questions that you literally have and boom, that's it. Like,
>> so it's the smartest AI setter. >> Yeah. It's not It's not just about sending a link. It's about thinking.
>> Yeah. and and inside of your DMs, you want to be able to think so that way you don't have to. Most entrepreneurs are
not sitting inside of the DMs, our day. >> Yeah, it was. Would you say that was hard to build?
>> Um, it it was it was hard to get to logistics of it, but to physically have it and make it a tangible software, no.
No, it was not hard. >> So, you're saying the features were hard to build, but like in general, it's like
pretty straightforward. >> Anybody can build anything, right? I'm going to use the ratatouille phrase like
anybody can cook. >> Yeah. >> Right. But you have to be creative and
you have to have the right tools and you have to have the right resources. So >> logic and reasoning also
>> it's just it's just all logic and reasoning. It's all very important. So um when that person just like that
person said to me, hey um it's really hard to build it. Like that's a challenge and I'm going to take it 100%
of the time. So can somebody re redo what I did? Probably. But it's going to take you some time. Even with all my
intelligence and the people that I have in my corner and the amount of bots that I had running Sydney, it still took me
almost three months to build. >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. It was it was it was it was a long
time. Yeah. >> So, >> and then you launched what? Yesterday.
>> Launched yesterday. >> Was it a successful launch? >> Oh my gosh,
>> dude. I saw your post. Hella people showed love. >> Everybody showed love. I can like even
sitting here right now I just know I have 50 people sitting in my DMs having conversations with my bot on AI
[laughter] >> just like booking its own meetings right now like
>> yeah so I woke up this morning we we even ran ads and and just just to see if we run ads
>> who's running the ads >> yeah you want you want to know who's running our ads
>> who's running the ads >> a bot >> oh [laughter]
you said a who [gasps] >> we have an AI we have a whole AI agent running our our marketing because we we
were We've gone through multiple marketing agencies. We've gone through multiple
people that say they're so good at marketing. >> Yeah.
>> But nobody's as good as like Meta's own algorithm. And nobody's as good as having AI that's constantly checking
trending stuff every single day. So that's >> that's who's running our our marketing
team right now. >> Hell yeah. >> Updates at 8 a.m.
>> Hell yeah. >> Performing what we should optimize. How we going to do
>> Yeah. We're getting daily updates every single day. We're going to text them. Hey, this is how it's going. This is the
This is the the the content that's working the most. It's crazy. >> Another product that could be sold out
there. >> It's true. >> Yeah. Replacing
>> I'm getting a bunch of It's just like I think the AI inner circle, we're just adding like with a bunch of students and
then bring guys on like gear. It's like sell these guys like our coaches [ __ ] for them. So, it's like it's a whole
thing, but we'll figure it out. Um >> Um but I really love that section of that
podcast. Um, >> I guess if you could ask me about like >> I want to tie that into like you know
you're building a product AI and I'm building agency. >> Maybe you can ask like
>> so what are you doing? Yeah, like how does this differ? Cuz I'm not building any apps or anything. You know what I
mean? Like I'm not building software. >> Okay. So, so for somebody who's like me building all kinds of different apps and
automations and agents or whatever, like what is it that you're essentially doing that makes it different? Cuz dude,
you're you're popping off right now. I appreciate it. I mean, when I tell people I sell AI, some people think it's
like I make AI apps or whole softwares or something like stutter stack, but I'm like my philosophy is totally different
when I sell AI. Like I'm not trying to build something and get like low ticket MR and really try to push it and then
raise a series A and then sell the company. And I'm not trying to do all that. Uh I just want a really big cash
flowing agency. Um, and I know that sure like I have enough business acumen to start like a video editing agency,
social media marketing agency, >> uh, whatever agency, but the hottest [ __ ] right now to sell is clearly AI.
Um, so instead of striking those like low ticket MR deals or even like when I sell voice AI, um, I try to strike big
money down buildouts and then that optimization be lower. So like I don't want to deal with churn and it's just
like something that's there to pay for the tokens or pay for like just client success management. Um so with that
philosophy I'm selling voice AI receptionists, AI websites and chat bots, AI CRM,
uh any custom agent to be honest. Like if you're able to do a audit, an AI audit with the business and see what
they need and then you have a bunch of devs that you can be like wait what can we build out? What can we sell? you
could really sell like a good amount and upsell even more, >> right? U so for me doing that over and
over in different niches, different AI and different niches, I found like oh this niche is really hungry for this one
thing, right? So like for example, uh voice AI, I could sell it to like a Mexican restaurant. Sure. Like sure they
might like having the bot pick it up, talk to them, do their order, >> speak Spanish,
>> CRM, Spanish, English, >> but I would rather serve a HVAC company who has the budget to pay me and their
pain point is so much higher because every missed call when someone's AC breaks, they're just going to call the
next guy >> and then the next. So each leakage is actually, you know, missed out, like
revenue missed out. Um, and because of that bigger pain point, it's so much easier to sell. Like, uh, so I've been
trying to do that over and over and then just replicate that within a bunch of different niches and it's pretty fun.
We've been able to hit some big numbers, >> dude. That's awesome. What do you think like on average the fastest what's like
what's like the average time for people it takes for a lead to go silent? Like what do you think? Like
>> Oh man, like I would say even like a couple days if that. Like usually think about like the
conversations you had yesterday, right? They might have been like very valuable, very fruitful with friends, family, but
like you don't mean it in any type of way, but you probably already forgot pieces of it.
>> Yeah. >> Uh and leads is the same thing. When people opt in, if you just call them
like a couple days after, a week plus out, they're like, "Wait, what? Who is this?" They won't even remember typing
their name, phone, and email. >> Full info. >> Like full info. So, it's like, you know,
I like that you're building setters, stack, and for me, for my phone setters, when we're doing outbound SMS blast,
mail blasts, uh, for these businesses, we're speed to lead. Like, we're just trying to get to it ASAP. Like, voice
AI, it picks up first ring. Like, that's that's speed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of the most common people that I've sold
to, especially HVAC and service based industries like that, a lot of these people aren't some of them are keeping
their phones sitting in their trucks. Like some of them are have their phone just some somewhere in their back pocket
on silent because they're working with heavy machinery. They're not going to pick up a phone, right? Yeah.
>> So instead of going for the uh pick up the phone, call them and then send them a quick text back at that point, right?
The automation. Hey, uh currently at work right now or currently on a job right now, how can I help? Right? Just
that alone, if I called five businesses and one of those did that, I'm going to quickly like start texting. Yeah, I'm
looking for Okay, cool. I'm going to call you in just five minutes. And then have an AI voice or something just call
them. Yeah. >> Hey, this is blah blah blah. Like, how can one can get you booked in? Oh my
god, I'm taking that. Like, think about like barbers, bro. If I need to get a haircut today, which I this is literally
what happened to me today. I need to get a haircut today and I called up three different places. The first place I
called up, I texted the guy or I called him an answer. He texted me back. He's like, "I'm on my honeymoon." Okay, sure.
Fine, whatever. Lost your business. Second person, I I called up the barber shop. No answer. I was like,
>> "Call the third." >> I was like, "Okay, whatever." I called the third guy
>> and they didn't answer, right? But it like rung for a little, hung up, got a call back, and it was just like, "Hey."
And it was like an automated like, "Hey, this is D." And I was like I was like, >> "Oh, hey, uh, I just want to get booked
for for a haircut like right now." >> And I knew it was AI, right? But I was like, "Perfect. Like, I can speak to an
AI receptionist and they can get me booked." Yeah, cool. We can actually get you at 10:30. This was 9:30 in the
morning. Yeah, I can actually get you at 10:30. You'll be booked at this. And what kind of haircut is this? And I was
like, "This is the haircut." They're like, "Okay, 10:30. Is it going to be cash or card?" I was like, "Card." And
they're like, "Okay, you can either tell me information, the card information now, or you could just come pay at the
shop." I was like, "Well, I'm just gonna pay at the shop just because like I don't want to Yeah.
>> get my card, but I could give my card information." >> Went to the shop and I even said to the
person, I was like I was like, "Who are you guys using? What receptionist is there?"
>> Yeah. >> Cuz that was great. >> Yeah.
>> And that's like that's important especially in a lot of businesses like they're they're they're missing
opportunity that they never would have answered that call and they would have missed out on 100 bucks. But that's how
much it costs for a haircut here in Miami. It's 100 bucks. So >> I I love that in a micro scale. I mean,
if you think about like some of these enterprise businesses that are missing hundreds of customers a day, it's like
what are you doing? Like when you look at their competition, how could you humanly compete against company B that
has AI fully integrated not only on the front end on the phones, on the leads, on the qualification, but on the back
end for lead nurturing and a CRM, >> texting, emailing, >> you know about building AI CRM? Didn't
you uh weren't you on the team for Hermosi? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, when Hermoszi was still
building out like gym launch and all that stuff, it wasn't just me, so I'm not going to take full credit. It was me
and five other people. Um, we built out all of it. Um, there's a few other big name agencies as well that I don't want
to I don't want to totally name because I was under NDA, but like they're bigname people in the spaces.
>> Yeah. >> And just like those, they're taking hundreds hundreds of leads every single
minute. >> Yeah. >> Not like day minute, like thousands of
people are coming in every single day. >> And large scaler agencies. Yeah. If you're not implementing something that
can automate specific processes in a business, the most annoying part answering phone calls, qualifying them,
having full conversation with them, like that's like 50% of the business. >> That's 50% of the business.
>> People don't deviate all that [ __ ] >> People don't believe me that I've sold just a couple AI CRM, maybe like half a
dozen, maybe less, but each one was a buildout of over 3K. I charged them over 3K.
>> It's cheap. >> Uh it's so cheap. It's cheap. But people don't believe me that they're like, "Oh,
you just type out a CRM." But it's like, "No, no, no. I need to understand everything about their business and see
how I could create a custom CRM that will help enable them to get more people to show up, get more people rebooked,
follow up with people, current clients. So like what features in a CRM do you believe
>> actually make it work or actually sellable? You know what I mean? >> The first thing is always mis call text
back. That's 100% like that's the first thing I think anytime somebody says I need a CRM, miss call text back.
>> Second one, lead optimization. Where can we put them in? What pipeline can I put them in automatically?
>> Yeah. >> What email campaign can I just shove them in? Right. And then it's um it's
just general automations, right? Follow-ups. Somebody booked a meeting. Okay, let's start sending them
notifications every hour or every day or whatever it might be. Um those are all very important. Those are just
generalized CRM things that should everybody should have. >> I feel like dude it doesn't make so sure
AI website might help. AI website might help but AI CRM will completely change the business for real because it's not
just doing the nurturing and doing the XYZ it's tracking all of that too and having that data might be the most
important thing like >> well here's the problem with a lot of agencies this is a problem with a lot of
business in general they might not even need a CRM right but in sales we know like you have to create a problem for
somebody to actually like realize >> you got to educate them >> you got to educate them on a problem for
them to realize okay I have that problem right but then it's to get them addicted to be inside of that CRM every day not
becoming They're new. >> Yeah, >> I have I've I've sold CRM to people who
were like, "Yeah, I still operate on Google Sheets, right?" Like, and then I build them a CRM and they still go back
to using Google Sheets because they like simplicity and they don't get addicted. So, it's important when you're building
a CRM for them, you build them a really like cut and dry system for them to feel addicted to, want to be on that CRM and
want to be able to boom, wake up in the morning, check my pipeline, check my CRM. What's my notifications that I got
internally with our agency? What's what's for my Google calendar? Can I check my analytics of my website? Yes, I
can check all those things. I want to wake up in the morning, I want to look at those things.
>> Yeah. >> Right. And >> just like gamifying that, right?
>> Just gamifying. And then once once entrepreneurs see or even sales guys see them making more money after using a
CRM, they're like, "Okay, this is like the bible of my business." Like we need to be tracking
>> organization. That's it. >> Yeah. One of uh I paid a mentor 12K and he wasn't really that smart or that
great. This is a couple years ago. He didn't really It wasn't a bad purchase or anything. I'll tell you about it. But
um I got the most value from him versus anyone else. Even though people had, you know, crazy coaching calls, a lot of
insights, but that 12K was worth it because there was one call where he was like, "Tim, you are now tracking. You
have no numbers. You need to track." He spent one hour just like screaming at me like, "You're so dumb for not like you
have this, this, this will tell you this, this bottom neck, this. You're trying to get me to do consulting and
it's I'm just yapping to you. I need to look at numbers." And yeah, he might not have been the greatest at his in his
niche, but him knowing that was so valuable to me. Like um because business is just a a big math problem. And you
said a lot of the CRM stuff you can automate, but I feel like now the last couple months, a lot of the CRM systems
you can now automate with AI. So those like text backs, they're not just in mass, they're like very customized.
>> They are too. >> Why? like you answered yourself a really big question, right? A lot of people
like I have >> AI building things on my CRM, right? You're just building an agent. You're
you're you're supplementing your entire business by having you're you're basically implementing deviation to your
business. You're deviating somebody going and building the CRM. >> So that's a whole other like trifecta,
right? You you're building an agent to go in and build out the CRM so that way that CRM
>> can implement more automation or AI for your business, but that's all built by an agent.
>> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's all it is. So, if you
could just It's one thing to build CRM, right? Which is a beautiful art. It's art really is.
>> So, you can call it a tracking agent. >> It's a tracking agent >> and then it's a sell of a CRM.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That's really that's good positioning. >> Like if I have an automation and then I
have a CRM, right? And I'm really good at building those things. If you have an SOP on how you built that specific CRM,
you can build an AI agent that will do that for you. And that's really all it is. That's all. Like people a lot of ask
like how how do I build CRM? How do I build these specific things? And like okay, well you can go find an SOP on how
to build anything and if there's a writable SOP for something, you can build an AI agent to do it for you.
>> Exactly. Especially if it's on your computer. Hey, >> if it's on your computer, you do
literally anything. That's it. It's done. >> But you could charge people like more
than a couple hundred to have that up for them and optimized for sure. >> An agent.
>> Yeah. >> Charge thousands, >> dude. an agent to for we're talking
about >> something that's going to replace a $60,000 a year job.
>> Yeah, >> I could replace for under 10K. >> Yeah,
>> I'm doing it. >> I'm 100% doing it. That's something that I don't have to go in and implement.
>> And if I want to yell it, I could yell at it if I want to and I'm not going to get in trouble from HR.
>> Yeah. But [laughter] even if it's like a couple hundred, couple thousand, it's like I like the point that you said was
like no matter what, you just still have to be very sticky. and how to be sticky. They need to use that CRM.
>> If they can feel happy and addicted about sitting in their CRM or using their software tool, whatever that might
be. Yeah. >> That's it. That's it. You You did You're gonna make them You're going to You
could test them. Hey, like accidentally get them log out and like, >> hey, I can't get in the system. Oh,
they're addicted. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> They're addicted.
>> I mean, they should be living on the CRM for real. I've learned that the most important part of onboarding sales reps
onto a team or into a company is making them use that CRM. >> Yeah. Making sure they do end of day
track. >> They have to get them to feel addicted. That's it. Oh.
>> Oh, it's good. That's good. We're mid potty. >> Mid pod. Mid pod.
>> Mid tide party. >> What's good? >> Friend just came in and crashed the
potty. >> Yeah. >> Uh, basically we got a PJ private jet to
Las Vegas. We should go, huh? >> We should probably go. >> Hey, last words. Last words to the
people. >> Hey, last words. If you guys are not implementing AI for your business, start
today. And if you're not using Setter Stack for your Instagram automation, because I'm sure you're going to post
some content today, aren't you? Get Setter Stack. It's free. >> Hell yeah. And if you're watching this
all the way to the end and you're listening to me now, subscribe to the YouTube. All right,
>> do it now. >> I'll see you guys in the next one. >> See you guys.
>> Who wants to dial in again? Who wants to start fresh? All right. What did I put in chat this morning? It was like, "Fuck
your old ways. [ __ ] your bad habits. Whatever happened this month, you know, new month, new standards for ourselves.
I know that I've been posting a lot about founder mode, 12-hour days, six days a week. Uh, sure, that might be
something to aspire to do. I know some of you guys are still in college, some of you guys have jobs, whatever it is.
>> Um, but just get the work done. Just work in general and make sure it's focused. Um, I was talking about
for some of you guys just joining up, if an investor was to buy your business today, what would they do tomorrow? What
would they do? When I think about it in this frame, in a second degree, it tells me what I have
to do, right? So, like Gio, um, and I think what am I looking at too? Even Antonio, Sebastian, you guys, Jacob,
um, Nathaniel, Nathan, Michael, you guys have to learn B2B sales.
When you're doing mock calls, I better when I'm in the day and even before the calls, I better see at least like a
couple people in the mock calls doing mock calls. Like, I promise you more than anything, um, it
it is how you make more money. uh you just have to practice when you have that uh prospect when let's just say me and
Jacob Jacob are in Mox and I'm like Jacob I want to sell to plumbers I want to sell to plumbers you have to walk
Jacob through okay what is this plumber doing like you ask cla to give Jacob like a like identity like Jacob knows
he's doing 150k a month he has this many employees he's dealing with this many problems so he can actually be a real
prospect Right? People don't like mock calls and mock calls only last like 20 30 minutes cuz it's not like a real
prospect. So when you guys are doing the mocks, please like just beforehand take a couple minutes and walk through what
would I sell? What are some objections they can have? What should pop up and just go through the motions. I want to
see every part of our framework there. Right? The only difference, you know, people are like, "Oh, how can Tim close
a 10K CRM and I'm out here selling my CRM for 1,200 bucks?" I mean, sure, targeting is one thing.
Who are targeting? But the main difference is I could just sell better, right? I want to see everyone in the
mock calls practicing how to sell. Um, again, Steph Curry, he doesn't just
shoot threes in the game. He definitely practices. Um,
and you know, I don't want to be a broken record, but guys, like you guys work so hard getting the lead, enriching
the lead, doing outreach, doing inbound, posting content, doing all this just to get them on call, please don't flop the
call, right? Once you get that signal that this is a valid buyer and you could sell them
something, um, please guys, let's let's take care of the client. Let's pre-nurture them
properly. Last Monday I did a call on exactly how we send you know we what we send before the call pre- nurture assets
FAQ videos how much you know who has that done who got that done who has that completely done raise your hand
who knows they have to get it done raise your hand and hasn't done it all right come on guys all of you guys told me you
guys want to make more money but y'all not doing [ __ ] to make more money and you can't blame me. You can't blame
actually. Yeah, blame yourself. Uh yeah, you got to take accountability. Come on now. Um so that's one thing.
Getting inside mocks, being active is I I know that there's a good amount on you guys. It's just like, bro, that's the
main thing. That's the main part. Um, before I go on this rant, does anyone have any
open Q&As's? I know I just asked people initial question, but does anyone have any questions? Even based off my prompt,
what would an investor do if they bought you tomorrow? Anyone have any questions in general?
What are they working on? What bottlenecks are they having? What roadblocks?
I like you have a bit of a question. I was curious if you don't mind explaining like what exactly GTM is going to be
like how exactly it's all going to work. What's it going to do cuz I've been a little bit lost on that.
>> Of course, 100%. So, the thing is with GTM agent basically it's just if you think about it, it's an end toend SDR,
right? They not only will find the lead, but they will call them, email them, hit them on LinkedIn, just do what's
necessary to get them booked on your calendar, right? Let's just say it's a classic SDR. uh setting up that GTM
agent is it's a fruit bowl of so much software and so much setup um and beyond that we don't even know if
it's worked or if it if it optimized u correctly. So with what me and Joe are building with try GTM is basically it's
a group of custom agents um pulling from a database of almost a billion signals. So let's just say you are a SEO agency
for HVAC. Just type in you just input your information. It'll know what who you're trying to serve, what signals
it's trying to find. Then it will enrich the lead, get their name, phone, email, LinkedIn. Um then it'll do custom
outreach, custom outbound, uh follow-ups. It will track all of it to get them booked on your call, like your
calendar. Um, when you are on that book call, it will also give you a summary of who they are, their pain points, what
you can sell them, etc. Um, so I know that Riley has something um, a kind of a raw version of that just
on the front end. He's still carrying to the booked call. Um, and it's something that we're customizing to work on, but
that took him like two, three months to build and it's barely functional, but when it works, it's truly amazing. Uh me
and Joe were set to drop GTM tomorrow, but it's probably going to be pushed out another week. Uh we just want to deliver
something that actually works for you guys to make money. It's functional. It's [ __ ] functional, which is, you
know, me and Joe were lit. Um we're trying to make it as clean as possible. I've actually added another doc in our
AI method channel for GTM, another doc that I've been working through myself. Um the Hermes one is a little bit
difficult to navigate uh for some of us that are non-technical, but there's pieces of GTM that you can build. Um
there's pieces of this client acquisition that I want you guys to play with. U for example, I know that in chat
the other day, I'm like, "Hey, if you guys are getting leads on Apollo and Clay, use the API."
Um you can do small parts of it, but GTM will complete the whole thing. Um, I'm sure that all of you just want booked
calls magically on your calendar. That's OP. Uh, and thus you guys have to be good at
closing. Okay. Uh, Mox has to be popping. [ __ ] I should be seeing Mox one, Mox 2,
Mox 3, Mox 4. I mean, you could sit and listen to people, but there should be enough
channels for, you know, there to be some activity, guys. Um, but that's what it does
naturally. Sebastian, does that make sense or is it still kind of juggle? >> No, no, 100%. I I I will say like how
does that work with um like if you have like obviously there's a lot of people in this like course, right? If there's
people with like, you know, overlapping niches, are they just like it's just whoever's got the better like outreach,
I guess, or how does that work? >> So, this this is the thing, right? So, I I have two answers for you. The first is
let's look at what people currently are doing. They're going on open mart. They're going on what else guys? Apollo
clay. What else? Unmute yourselves. >> Jake, what do we go on? Well, what's the what is appi?
>> Aify. Yeah. What else? >> Just basically those basically all the same [ __ ] right? Um and if you just
look at I'll use example Chinese restaurants. I made a YouTube video. There was 35k Chinese restaurants
scraped from open mart about 25k from one about 40k from another. But the overlapping is probably like 50 to 75% I
would say on each. Um because there's only x amount of you know the dam is there. There's only x amount of
businesses. Um and the old way is people would technically compete against the same market or compete against the same
leads but truly it is how they're taking care of the lead and getting the right angle done. um and how exactly vicious
they are with the lead. Um but when we look at what so first of all that's that's the first point what people are
already doing there's saturation but there's not a lot of competition like there's not a lot of people who have
good outreach good followup a good offer are good at closing there that's not really not a lot of people but the the
second point I want to make is with what we're building why usually in the SAS distribution is the mo like
just getting it out right because software is duplicatable. If you got like over 100 racks, you can pretty much
duplicate a lot of stuff. Um, but with what we're doing, what's what's really special, uh, is we have access to a
database of close to Joe? 700 million. >> Yeah. 700 million touch points. That's a fraction of the [ __ ] world that we
can enrich. And that's something that that none of these like none of this [ __ ] has. Uh
it's jaw-dropping if you truly think about it. Uh how does Tim Chow have access to that? So would be the next
valid question. I'm telling you. [laughter and gasps] Uh but that's a no that's a no LAR
number. Like it's not just some stat I'm spitting out to stop people from being scared of being unsat. It's literally
700 million. Um, you guys tell me when you saturate that. You would be at 100 mil a month
and then you can come to me about saturation. Um, some of you guys are trying to hit
10K a month and we talking about saturation. 70 million gone. 700 million. Not 70
million. 700 million. Closer to a bill. Yeah. But I'm so I bet you can hear from my
voice, Sebastian. I'm so excited to drop it. I'm so I want it to be as fast and I I want it to go as possible, but like I
I'm just doing it right. Like I don't want people to pay for it and then some there's just so many bugs that people
just churn. Um we want to bring something great. Um I never want to sell anything I'm not truly confident in. So
we're we're damn near there. There's pieces of it in the dog, but we're damn near there. Yeah.
Any other questions? Um what's good So, I have a quick question. I don't know if you consider some of those
videos that you make like yapping videos where you're kind of speaking about a certain topic and you like freestyling.
>> Uh, sure. About what? Like where what? Give me some context. >> Um, like you do it a lot of the times
like I don't know if I could point out to a certain video, but like certain times like you're just speaking about a
certain topic and like you're you're able to like deliver your expertise and like these are like videos that you're
just like it seems like you're oneshotting and like not really editing. So, I'm just like wondering like what is
your thought process when it comes to being able to demonstrate yourself as that expert on social media?
>> Yeah, I think different every you have to look at your platform, right? Like the way that I demonstrate my authority
on Instagram is much different than LinkedIn, which is much different than a funnel, which is much different than in
a video on YouTube. Um, so you have to speak to your audience where they're at, right? That's the first thing. You have
to understand who you're speaking to. And I always had the limiting belief that, oh, if I shared too much bottom of
funnel content, no one would know me. Um, so I just posted a bunch of random [ __ ] But more and more over time, over
the last couple months, I've just geared towards whatever's on my mind about business, whatever I'm struggling with.
I'll think about content like this. Like I usually share and make quick talking head videos of like problems in my life
or problems with my business, and then a week or two later, I'll tell people I solved it or that I have a solution. Um
because people like keeping up with the Kardashians and like seeing like oh people there's a problem XYZ but at the
same time people want to see that you're an expert enough to solve these issues when they happen cuz more than enough
when you have those problems and you vocalize it people will relate to it like your certain ICP will relate to it.
That's why one of the pillars in the content inside AI method is audits and demos. And we have Joe's Luminina
software that lets us [ __ ] demo any niche. Like like literally any niche. He just
dropped the feature of uh the little Ask Luminina thing where you can I didn't know if you guys saw, but whatever your
site is, say it's like all geared towards dental, you just type in change it to be for plumbers and it just
changes everything and you could just have the site immediately and start doing that. You could just knock them
all out. Um it's amazing. >> [laughter]
>> Um, but that's would be to answer your question. >> Yeah, that answer my question. I
actually made like a couple of demos. Like, would you be willing to review them?
>> Yeah, sure. Send them over send them send them to me in the DMs or even in chat. Let people see. We'll take a look.
>> Yeah. U, but those demos would be super good just to post, but also when you have them on LinkedIn, it could work as
a pre- nurture asset. When you have someone on booked in, send the video to them through LinkedIn.
The again the platform that you nurture a client is it matters like if you send a video when someone books in the call
what's SMS email but you can look at you directly texting themselves like you triage and you text them like yo take a
look at this you could send a YouTube unlisted video you could send a direct loom you could select an a select actual
MP4 file that pops up as the actual video it could be a LinkedIn video a video on X it matters you know what I
mean so >> Mhm. Thank you. >> You have to you have to think where does
my audience actually exist and then provide it there, right? Or how can the positioning be correct where like what
do I actually want to accomplish? You know what I mean? So a lot of my free lead magnets are just YouTube unlisted
videos because I know that if they watch that and they see it's unlisted, the hope is usually they don't lead anywhere
in the description, but the hope is they just watch my other YouTube and they just see, oh, he's someone that does AI
on LinkedIn. Um, usually, yeah, I tell you guys, I made my first six figures of AI deals. No website, no nothing. Just
send them to my LinkedIn. Um, just a few pieces of AI that I sent. Like, I love sending. I made a post on how chatbt
dropped four years ago. And there's a lot of impressions on that if you guys look on LinkedIn because I send it to a
lot of people before a call. Has nothing to do with the call, but I'm like, yo, like, do
AI's coming for us? said it, right? How how could I be top of mind? How could I be the expert? Like, dude, this dude
just this geek just posts on LinkedIn all day about [ __ ] AI. Like, dude, what what what's your positioning?
Right? Who's I did a raise of hands of who did the lead who structured the FAQ videos? Who shot them? Who posted them?
Like half of you guys didn't. More than half of you guys didn't. And it's like if you did that, you would be you would
know naturally like, "Oh, I need I also can do this. I know this." Like one thing will always lead to another in
business. So I'm hoping that whenever I give you guys actionable advice, you take that and then you externalize that
as well. Like you do more. There's like literally unlimited things to do in business. It's like last call, what was
it? We had one of the guys like, "Okay, what do I do now?" And like I lowkey got pissed. I forgot who. Um
>> much to do. >> I was like, "Dude, unlimited [ __ ] to do." What do you mean? Like [laughter]
uh but content would be very important. If you roll content, I promise you like the first day, the f two days, three
days, you do 30 days straight, you go founder mode, you six days a week, you're you're posting on LinkedIn.
>> Bro, I'm doing three times seven days a week. >> You're doing your [ __ ] Like, think
about it. In a month, if you do that, it would be unreasonable for you not to get one call a day from that. Just one.
Like if you just get one call using that this system on LinkedIn, you've built a content engine and maybe with Atlas
eventually with GTM. I said, well, you get one free call a day, right? That's pretty damn good. That's 20 a month,
right? And then you add what we we talk about um referral method and let's just say
you work with plumbers. You're hitting up plumbing coaches, plumbing community owners. You're going to these schools.
you're trying to find where they live at these Facebook groups, these contractors, where are they?
You get that machine rolling day by day, feeding content towards it, you're going to get an extra call a day. That's 40
calls now a month. Like, just do the math of what actions you need to take to get the output. You know what I mean?
Like I I only trend this way so you guys have time to build you need to do all of this like have the phone setting team
all that so you could build your sales team build your sales operations have all tracking dialed in and then you
could run ads and then you could do SEO or then then you could do whatever you want right because you already have the
base right we had a who is he here Michael's here um well he worked with this other dude and the first thing they
did when he for his new AI business was let's run some ads. Bro gotten a single made a single
dollar. There's no ops, no systems, no obviously like that [ __ ] not surprising to me. Um,
so again, like let's just take a look at what actions we're doing every day and be real with ourselves with the outcome,
right? Because I promise you, if you're this like actually Jeremy Haynes is a goat. is if you're grounded in reality,
you will understand that in reality, if you put [clears throat] in the work, in reality, you will get the outcome. Like
the outcome has to be there. Um cuz I'm sure we all want to get the bag. All of you guys told me you want to get
rich. Um he used the example of uh how much do you guys think a oak tree is that has shade? How much do you guys
think it costs? You buy a crib, you want an oak tree in the backyard. How much does it cost, guys?
>> 150. 150 bands. >> Yeah, like 150 bands.
Who has 150 bands in their account right now? Who can afford a tree? You know what I mean? Like like the comparison is
like, you know, a lot of us ain't worth trees, bro. Like the grass is 120. We're not even worth grass right now. Like,
you know, we're trying to get we're trying to make money and get rich. Uh but we got to take the actions, guys.
Just another reminder. I know this is like a a money Monday motivation type call, not like a logistic call, but like
guys, let's get to it. Right. Um, any other questions? What's good? It could be logistic, too. I'm here to
answer all. >> Yo, Tim, I have a question. >> Shoot. Um, I just joined, so I haven't
gotten a chance to kind of go through like the resources or anything yet, but um, I know this is typically probably a
sales thing, but when you're on the sales call, right? And let's say for in my case where I'm not going to have
testimonials. I'm not really going to have evidence that I've done this for other companies, stuff like that.
>> Um, that's probably going to be a common objection, probably the most common objection.
>> Um, >> do you kind of just get over that through the actual sales process and
scale sales skills or do you do anything different to kind of get around that? >> Yes, we do do something different. Uh,
we actually we do something the exact same that McKenzie Bane and Co. these massive consulting firms do when they
consult Kelloggs on their serial manufacturing processes. They don't have a [ __ ] case study for that, but
they'll bring in experts from tricks. They'll bring in experts from like their comp other competition or ex people and
then leverage their knowledge and case studies to get that deal across the line and to actually consult them, right? And
you, my friend Michael, and everyone else in here, paid me to partner to to work with me, to partner with me. And
when you get those deals and when you fulfill, you're using frontr runner devs. You're using the advice that I
gave you. We are partners, right? So, you're actually leveraging my skills, my success, and my case studies to service
your clients. Does that make sense? >> Okay. And my it's my case studies we're me and Joe are about to with Luminina
are about to have a good amount there for you guys to immediately leverage. It is in a range of niches though cuz I'm
in the clinics niche, oil and gas niche and then I serve insurance and high ticket too. But I would just say in
general right today now now you guys have a partner that has done what like multiple six in transactions just in AI
and then you guys now have 25 devs working for you right me Garrett uh Raky's Argie and all our 25 devs down
even Joe like we work for you guys right when you get the deal and you have the cash we're f we're actually working for
you guys, we fulfill, right? Does that make sense, Michael? >> All right. So, so you're saying that we
could use the case studies that you have as our own because because we are working together. You guys are doing the
fulfilling, >> correct? It's somewhere in the curriculum, too. Arbitraging my Yeah.
>> All right. Thank you. >> Yeah. Um, which is a pretty [ __ ] big advantage, I would say. Hell yeah.
>> Just learn my name. I I really don't care. I told you guys add me on your company page on the LinkedIn. Say I'm
your COO. Like [ __ ] it. Um I might literally be your COO. Like actually I am your operations officer fractionally.
[laughter] U how you set authority and then who they
who they think they're talking to matters, right? If you've guys ran any agency before in client success, helping
people, let's just say run helping people run ads, the narrative matters, right? when you're working with a
client, like in their head, they think, "Oh, we had a positive month because I did this and then like dude, oh, and I
went to church and then I locked in and then this happened and then like there's something that went on in their head
versus what what actually is going on with the numbers, right? But like we as when we serve clients, we have to manage
that narrative. We have to manage the client. That's what it means by client success manager, right?
It's about the numbers and about the narrative, too. Because I could be making some kid an extra 100 grand a
month, but if it's managed incorrectly, they're just still going to go to another, you know, get their service
done somewhere else. Does that make sense? And I was I was going to ask real quick,
do you know if uh for uh the front runners if uh if someone already has a website, can you still integrate like a
chatbot into it or do they have to get built their own website as well? >> Yeah, it should be easy to do.
Definitely 100% doable. Yeah. >> Okay. S. Oh yeah. You just have them add a widget to the chat. They shoot over a
line of code and then you send it over to your client. Say, "Hey, that's if they manage the website theirel." I had
a I had a client who was like really proud of his claw website build and that's what we did.
If you think about it, right, I want whatever you're selling, you have to start thinking about the spread to the
back end, right? I might, you know, I I'm in the peptide niche and I love selling chat bots. Like it's just, you
know, upsell backwater, educate them on what to buy, upsell needles, but the huge selling point, Sebastian, is but we
get data. we get that of what people are curious about, what people would talk to us
about, people's what people are unclear about, more content to make, just dump towards marketing to clear that thing up
at the same time. Um, you know, cuz every single message can be tracked and then filtered
with enough efficient categories for them to actually make stronger decisions for their business. Like those are the
conversations I'm trying to spark, not just like, "Bro, you need a chatbot, bro?" like I can add one for a couple
hundred, you know what I mean? Like it's like uh you know, take it a little bit more B2B. Like you got to understand why
they need it. I mean, >> so really quick, how does that work with uh like the data that it gets? Like does
it just send it to them like an email or how does >> uh it could be it could literally just
be a kind of a CRM in itself. like you could see a dashboard of the messages. You
could look through the messages. Um you could have AI filter as like oh they asked this question, they asked this
type of question. They had a refund question this. So you could segment it. Um you know this is what I mean by go on
your niche and talk to Claude about why they would need it, what features they need to see and why that features are
valid. Why they need to see it? What painoints does it actually solve? You know what I mean? and you slowly stack
all the these things up, you have a pretty big bridge just for a [ __ ] chat bot. You know what I mean?
>> I Yeah, I guess like how do you because like now that we're actually ripping leads like going to start having a lot
of more meetings booked. How do you go about pricing out the stuff correctly and figuring out what the scope of the
project is actually going to be so you don't under quote that when you go up to the you know front runners that like
you're expecting to be like maybe like 2K like actually it's like five to build.
>> Are you using Luminina too? >> I'm going to be using Luminina. Yeah. As soon as I have my first meeting booked,
I'm finally >> Joe runs Luminina and Rackis is running for owners. Joe's pricing, it's if you
look at it in the bigger picture, it's about the same and but it's in a monthly model, which my mentors are telling me
to quit having an ego and start learning how to figure out. So, you know, might be interesting. But
>> what do you mean like compared to what? >> Build and release big money down um rather than clean MR. So, you know, th
those things. It's just like I have to think my brain has to position my offers and what I sell in a different way. But,
um, the sale is about the same. It's just the the fulfillment will be will be clean and we'll be there. But, um, take
a look at the Luminina stuff as well and kind of combine what's necessary. >> You'll realize that for Luminina the SAS
is insane. Like if you can build out a whole user basis or backend, replace their overhaul, like overhaul their
backend, uh those are pretty big deals. Those are pretty fat. In terms of pricing, no matter what, I would take a
look at the pricing and at least three to 5x it minimum. No matter what, like bare minimum. You should have a bare
minimum price. I usually don't bend on price though. Uh B TOC or B2B, right? My price is my price. If you can't afford
it, like you actually just can't. If it's a business that I can't afford it, they actually just can't. Um, there
should be some sort of baseline, but I my YouTube downtime I watch McKenzie consultants. I do like no lar I actually
do. Uh, and they'll always price the customer and not the scope of work. They will always price the customer, not the
scope of work. Aka elegant version of they tax the [ __ ] out of the client. Um, so they have a
baseline, a direct offer, a clean offer, but they'll look at how much time they're saving or how much money they
will be eventually helping them generate or save and then price them on that. It should be valid though, right,
Sebastian? If I can give you guys a clean tier, if they're doing like just 10K a month, 10 to 20k a month, beginner
entrepreneur, like a couple grand is, you know, you you have to sell it as like this is the thing that's, you know,
that's going to actually take you to the promised land. and you have to do some like digging with them and make sure
that they know how to use it and they actually maybe take a look at their other pieces of their business. Try to
help out like they're they're just starting out so you want to give them a good boost. Um,
our target demographic with selling AI is like the 20 to 50K crawling to 100K month just like people in the 20 to I
know it's a massive range but like it's just a I think it's you know people there are it's it's a kind of the same
gap and these people will they love like this is we're selling AI for these people to eventually make hundreds of
thousands a month right like that's where we want our average usual client to like plumbing, HVAC. For the third
niche, like like clinics, they're doing some type of ballpark either valid revenue or like valid profit in that in
that area. Um, and for those guys, it's like you're charging anywhere between 3 to 10 grand for money down and the MR a
couple grand a month, they can eat it. It's valid, right? Because you look at how much time it saves them versus how
much money more money it's going to make during that kind of stage of their entrepreneurial journey. um it makes
sense but it's still it will be a sale. Um the enterprise companies or the soloreneurs doing between 100 to 250
grand um they will just they will they will they will buy if it's if it immediately saves them time like it
makes sense. Uh I'll say me and uh my friends kind of being in that camp if it's valid like we're
spending 5 to 25k and there really isn't too much of an issue. um like if it's if it works like we're just going to get it
done. Um so I'm actually when I used to take calls for um for Go Detail selling 35K
license, 8K license, um I would actually be more scared to talk to a client doing 100K plus than 10K a month. Not because
of who they are, what they did. I was scared to [ __ ] up the sale because I knew that they could afford it, right?
But it was just like [ __ ] am I a good enough closer to show them enough value that they would actually want that and
spend that with us? Like it was a scarier sale to me because I like I could lose it versus someone that like
might have the funds or not. It's just like whatever. I'll talk to them, see if they want it, and if they don't like,
okay, sure. Um, so when you're serving those up market, it's like you just have to be very direct and clean with exactly
what you do, how it could help their business, what it exactly say. That's why you have to know these wise. You
just talk to Claude every day. Almost 50% of you are still at the stage where you should be talking to Claude on
schedule, one hour a day about your niche and how you could serve them and what you could build. You need to be
very fluent with the jargon. Tell it to give you crazy words, crazy questions. Just go through it. Um,
and that will help out more than more than anything. And then beyond that, enterprise clients, you're charging them
35 to 100K. Like that's their version of that's valid. They just think about it like, okay, should we pay someone like
80 grand a year and have to manage and do XYZ and do all this just to get it maybe built out like probably correctly
internally? Let's just pay this contractor to oneshot it. Just get it done. Um, so it's like a a different
mentality. But each market you serve, just start where you are and go upstream. Your whole goal in
entrepreneurship is to be able to keep on like offering enough value and then when you have that value and impact like
your dollars will reflect that, right? You look at the leaderboard right now, the guys on top the top of the
leaderboard, you'll see how much money they make, but how much money did they help the businesses that paid them make?
Uh, probably a lot of money. Probably a lot of save time, probably a lot of impact. That's why they're getting paid
a lot, right? For some of you guys who don't know what to offer, you know, if people have paid you guys, you guys just
set up chatbot or, you know, doing small stuff. Yeah, the impact's not that great. You're not getting paid that
much. So, you need to challenge yourself to go upstream, right? Uh that's why I just have you guys start with a niche
that's backed by private equity. If you can get that ball rolling, it'll be really good for you guys. Um like it
could be it could be lifechanging. Just one deal can be lifechanging. Like one deal can net you five to 10 grand a
month. and you could go get that. Like, be dead ass with me. If you tried and focused and you worked 30 days in a
month, you can't get one client. It's pretty ridiculous in my in my head. Um, but
yeah, I know that was definitely long-winded, but that should I mean for you guys, it should be revealing that
what like you should you all of you know the next step and what the hardest next thing to do to help develop your
business is. You just have to go do it. You know what I mean? I have a question.
>> I got a question. >> Yeah, we'll start with you. >> All right. Thank you. Um, what's like
the best way do you think is to like find like networking events to like be able to get yourself in front of those
big businesses and like being able to like kind of get yourself out there? >> It never made sense to me why like these
kids in the big 2026 are starting like lawn care companies when we got AI, when we got the internet. Like it's just
insane to me. Unfathomable to me. Um, so when you're thinking about connections, like the network effect, like when I say
post content for on LinkedIn or on socials, >> that's also Yeah, that's like what I'm
asking like kind of just networking. >> That's so powerful. That's so powerful. And when you do both in real life, when
you when you go IRL and you're online, that's when like everything unlocks, right? Because if you have a presence
online, you'll start knowing a lot of more like inerson things to do. And when you go in person and you connect with
people, you connect with them online, they can continue to see you online. So kind of they both feed each other,
right? That's why like I'll say I'm course demon. I'll buy any course. I'll go to any mastermind. I'll go to any
conference. I'll buy the ticket. I I do not give a [ __ ] cuz we're in the best industry ever. We can go to anyone at
the sauna in lifetime and sell them something. We sell AI, guys. Like every business, it does not matter what they
there. we have something to sell them. Like, uh, unbelievable. I love talking to people, so it's just amazing. Like,
dude, I'm with that. >> All right. >> U, but Gio, you can look within your
city and go crazy, but focus online. Focus on the stuff that has massive like web effects. You know what I mean?
>> All right. Yeah. Thank you. >> Yeah. Um, Dan, was that you that had a question?
>> Oh, someone else chimed in. >> No, it was one after Dan. Okay,
go ahead, John. And then Michael. >> Okay, great. So, I was at the dentist earlier and, you know, found out they're
making a new website. So, I got to talking to uh the wife of the dentist and told them, "Look, I could do this
for you." And, you know, I started asking her questions about, you know, what were her pain points? And she tells
me, you know, it's mainly the phone. >> Um, their website's good. I saw it myself. Um,
but apparently they like to refresh it every 10 years even if nothing's wrong. But I wanted to talk to them. They have
someone working on the site. They already hired them and they had uh some developments. But I was talking to them
about well I could come in and you know they're they're actually thinking about well maybe we'll replace that person
because he's some in India or something and it's not the best connection perhaps. But uh if they do continue with
that gentleman, I could come in and as that when someone else was talking about this add in our AI services. So I was
talking to to her about uh the AI voice things like that. Uh one of the points that she had brought that I had brought
up uh was what where was her um website hosted and who's what are this uh programmer or developer using? Are they
doing custom code >> or are they doing AI? Because she seems to be on the side where she definitely
wants custom code. So if Joe were to be the developer, let's say, is Joe going to write custom code for this website?
Is that what uh Luminina sells? >> Yeah, 100%. It'll be custom, right? Um it's made by AI, but the code is
definitely custom. >> Uh okay. >> The thing is this, right? when you're
talking to a dental office, the it's interesting how the first thing that you mentioned, the main thing that you
mentioned your conversation with them is where they're hosting their website, right? I I should have heard from you
like, oh, they were telling me, you know, they're spending so much time on the phones or they're still so
disorganized on the back end or, you know, people see their website or intake form, but they don't really click
through like like, you know, it when you're talking to a client, you need to know what the pieces of information that
you need to collect are. And I already know the pain points. You should act like a lawyer if you are in your niche.
You should ask questions where you already know what they're going to answer you with. Right? If I ask this
practice, I already know their CRM is going to be messy. I already know this some lady is picking up the phone when
it rings. I don't know who. I don't know how they track or how it's done or even after hours, but it's happening. I
already know that's how their operations are. >> So, I'll ask questions like, what do you
do with that? Oh, really interesting. What about this? What is it? And I create the gap, right? Um, you could
immediately, dude, you should get them on a call and you know, you could see using Luminina there. You could have a
whole demo for uh dentists, for Let me just let Joe speak. I'm going to just let Joe speak, right? You can walk them
through each thing and have something extremely clear. Um, and then sell them something. That can be your first deal
like actually >> beautiful. >> Um, that can be a three to 10k deal. I
don't know. It could range. Um, it could be recurring deal as well. It could definitely be monthly. But Joe, I'm
going to let you share your screen and kind of show your expertise on what we got in Luminina because I know you made
some big updates as well. Um, we have some new guys in here. Uh, this [ __ ] is mandatory. Uh, this [ __ ] rips. Um, it's
Yeah, just do it. >> End this full showcase of it. >> Um, yeah, let's help solve uh John's
problem. So, let's just say he's speaking to a dental clinic and he has no idea what AI to sell. He kind of
knows the pieces, but he wants to use Luminina to demo it. So, he knows what to do with you. Okay,
>> awesome. For people that don't know Lumina, there's four main things. You got uh your live AI demos, obviously.
You got your client onboarding, you got client fulfillment, uh and you have a client portal. So, those are the four
main pillars. I'd love to talk more about it. There's also very good documentation in the demos channel. you
can see me run through everything. But here we go. Let's go to demos. I'll run through your example specifically. I
actually already have it set up for a dental practice. Um, hold up. I'm going to change it. So,
let's just say we're going to talk to Lumina on the right side. So, this is the new feature. Um, it's basically AI
integrated into Luminina sales and it allows the control of everything inside of it. So, onboarding, fulfillment,
clients, demos, everything. So, in your example, and if you don't know what to sell them really, you could just say
something like, "Hey, I want to make a demo for a dental practice. I don't know exactly what to sell them. Just put on
the best types of like AI and nodes and whatever else that you think would be a good demo for a dental practice." You
can say something like that in your prompt and Lumina [snorts] will actually go and build out the demo
for you for what you just said. >> That's incredible. So, it's going to select the dental practice niche. As you
see, it just changed dental practice niche. And it's going to put the nodes that it thinks that you should have. So,
it did a full full full demo build. Let's take a look at it. So, it did dental practice uh just a little hero
section. Put an AI receptionist, an AI chatbot, the with an example of like miss call text back. If they miss a
call, it shows them uh an AI business assistant, SEO audit, lead nurture sequencing, and how much
they're missing out on every single month from not having an AI receptionist. They can also see test
like a testimonial. You can put a testimonial right here. You can put a Loom walkthrough right here or
something. And you can showcase your pricing. And then there's a book a call CTA at the end. So, this is something
you could cold email to a thousand dental practices and they would all go and use this demo and run through the
demo and they could see how AI could help their business specifically and everything's obviously white labelled
completely for you on your domain and all that. So, you know, you could just start a live call here and you can
talk through. >> Thank you for calling Brightwater Family Dental. This is Ava. How can I help you
today? >> All right, hold on. My sound is bugging out. I can't hear anything.
>> We heard that. Ava sounds good. She sounds good. >> Yeah, I heard it.
>> All right. Yeah. So, um that's uh pretty much how the AI works inside of Luminite. It can build anything. Let's
say you're selling an AI receptionist specifically. You can have it go like here. Um,
I need you to go make a onboarding form specifically for onboarding dental practices for selling them an AI
receptionist, right? And then it will go and it will make that onboarding form for you that
is specifically for dental practices and for an AI receptionist for the dental practice. So, it'll create it. And if I
go to edit your forms, you should we should be able to see yeah dental AI receptionist onboarding.
So now this has been created and we can see all the different fields that it added. These are all different fields
that will be shown and uh given to your client so that we can onboard them properly for an AI receptionist for a
dental practice. It's very very easy. It's never been easier inside of Luminina already, but this makes it even
easier. AI, you literally just ask what you want for demos and it's instant. >> Very nice.
>> So >> thank you. Thank you. >> Pretty cool.
with so many niches with volume. >> Go ahead, J. Go ahead.
>> So, you're saying you can basically talk to Luminina, get it to make you a demo of whatever niche you're in, and then
you can I like how you can mass email out. It's white label, right? So, if we pay for whatever the monthly is, we can
white label it, and we can send out mass emails with that, and I can just walk through it.
>> Yep. >> That's really fun. >> Exactly. I'm doing
>> Exactly. And so so right now um and honestly I'm going to I'm going to make a new plan probably later today
actually. So right now there's only the one plan. It's only the 49 a month 39 a month if you're in the community, right?
And you get this XYZ amount of usage. I'm going to make another plan where you have increased usage or like you can add
on usage cuz I've had a few people reach out to me where they want more usage because they want to go send it to
everybody. So that's going to be a feature coming probably end of day today. Um so then yeah, you guys can go
>> I love it. go ahead and just email blast this thing. >> What's special is if you guys are in
interesting niches with interesting use cases that you need to demo >> uh bro's right here just ask bro and he
will build it. >> And and also on top of that like if you click request a niche right here
literally request it give me an example and this sends me a notification I will go build it within like by end of day at
the latest it will be built and you'll be in here. So, we have over 100 niches already, but you know, if we don't have
exactly what you want, just reach out. So, then real quick, like obviously we can email out this stuff, which is
amazing, but if we were like hopping on a call with someone that's already booked and you wanted to show them some
demos, would the best way to still be just like give them an email and then they can go over it like with you over
the call or would you just like have a way to present it on your screen? >> Yeah, that's what I would recommend. So,
I would actually I would encourage you to go send it to your client cuz then they can have that experience with the
AI themselves. And obviously, it'd be nice if you're on the call with them so that you can walk through them or walk
through it with them. Um, but yeah, I absolutely recommend having them use the AI receptionist, have them use the
chatbot, have them see it because whenever they see it, then they know that they like, "Holy [ __ ] this this
actually works." The voice model is really good. They can see exactly what they'd be getting for the business,
>> right? That's sick. And do you have an example of what this shows up like on their end? Like in their inbox?
>> Oh, like in their inbox? I I don't handle email sending. So I don't have bulk email built into Luminina. So you
would have to handle like the actual email itself, but you can just send them this link.
>> You know what I mean? >> Oh, I see. So you you would send them the link for it. I see. They just go to
the link. >> Yeah. >> That's sick. Okay. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
>> Yeah. Everything's white labelled to whatever branded uh agency you've built out. So like they literally don't even
know. >> That's really [ __ ] sick. That is actually
>> cool. I hope that answers your question for real. >> All right. Any other questions,
clarifications about our sales process, >> about what to build next about [sighs] >> I definitely got one. I mean,
>> yeah, >> it's kind of unrelated to Lumina. I think Luminina is [ __ ] fire though.
That's actually crazy. Um, but because I've I've done B TOC sales mainly. I haven't really done B2B. Um, when you
guys go on these calls, is it typically a one call close or a two call close for the most part?
>> Yeah. So, for me, it's always a one call close. I set the precedent. Um, usually on the set, I even tell them like I'm
like, "Yeah, I'll let you know everything you need uh to know to make a strong decision." Um, as you in B2B, you
could be very straightforward. Um, [ __ ] When I was just targeting insurance agencies, I was trying to sell
them CRM, agency owners, massive AI CRM overhauls. Um, my qualifi what what were my qualifiers?
You wouldn't believe how hard the qualification was. Um, do you make 50K a month minimum? Can you afford 25K?
Will you commit for a year? Yeah, they're pretty much hopping hopping on the phone. [laughter] Like
I'm I'm not fighting anyone on price like you know what I mean? Um like the qualification can be extremely in my
opinion it can be extremely straightforward. >> Um because if they need it, they need
it. They know they understand what's going on. They're not just some little kid.
>> Um they know it's you know if their business needs it. There's a barrier. Um but I think the main switch you need to
make in your head is what helped me pivot extremely well was I realized that it was the if you look at the framework
it's exactly the same but before we do pain we just spend 10 to 15 minutes to do logistics.
What do they do? Who do they have? What do they try to solve? What's the bottlenecks? Who what are their pain
points? How many employees do they have? What do they offer? what's their rev their numbers
and then during that 10 15 minutes because that they vocalize they vocalize all these things in their business and I
understand these things I can go ahead with a sale with more authority um that's also my time to show that I'm the
expert and that I could respond and that I can converse with them with their bottlenecks their troubles I'm basically
calling out like okay yeah no I know that because of this. I know that because of this. Yeah, that's probably
be happening because of this. Like we've seen these guys also like XYZ. And then the rest of it sells about the
same, right? Understand what their pain points are, where their goals, where they want to be, why they want to get
there, commitment, urgency, close. It's just about the same, right? But then I like our closes better because in AI
it's magic. Like when we show them the demo, they're like, "Oh [ __ ] give me that shit." Right? It's actually a
momentum close. Um but how you treat the client around the sales call like if we just look at
before the sales call how we need to nurture them and after how we onboard them is extremely important right like I
told all of you to use Lumina purely even just based off the portal that your clients can have uh someone pay me 10
grand for some AI uh they will get access to a portal to see when things are pending what the devs are doing when
it's completed a timeline more information. Um, even be before the call, how are we
framed? Um, but in B2B qualification, it's it's so
direct. I'm very direct with them. I even tell them, I know your original question was, "Do you want call close?"
Yes, I won't call close. On that call, when I set the frame of the call, I tell them straight up, um, I will let you
know everything you need to know to make active decision on this call. Does there is there anyone else that needs to be
here? like you got a co-founder or anything? >> Oh,
>> yeah. So, it's a little harder and then and then they'll tell me like, "No, no, like I can make a decision." Okay, cool.
So, basically, I just want a [ __ ] yeah or a [ __ ] no. I think I think you'll love what we got. Does that make sense,
though? Yes. Cool. And then I I'll continue. Usually, that's enough to frame them in their head like, "Okay,
I'm we're just going to figure this [ __ ] out." Um, even towards the end of the call, I still use B2B language and be
like, "Let's just strike a deal." Like, tell me where you at. Like, what are you thinking? Let's strike a deal. Let's
make it happen because I know that they're going to need it. I know they need it. They don't have the [ __ ]
[laughter] Like, we're not forcing a product down their throat. Like, they actually need
this [ __ ] >> I got a question, Tim. >> Oh, good. Thank you.
>> Yeah, let's get >> two questions. Uh, you earlier you were talking about how setting works and how
like on like the cold call you set them uh and then you get on the call and do like a discovery and see like everything
on that set. I was just curious like if when you're cold calling, are you just trying to find one problem? Like say for
example, they're missing phone calls or they have a bad CRM and then you tell them, "Okay, we'll get on this discovery
call." And then >> it's kind of it's kind of weird question like you tell them you're going to talk
about a voice receptionist or you might not even tell them at all. You just could tell them how to fix it. Then you
get on the call you're like, "Okay, tell me logistics. Tell me everything blah blah blah."
>> I know what you're So for cold outbound hitting the phones, for cold email, for cold SMS,
>> what do we have to do, right? Right? We have to first it's the philosophy of it is all the same, right? Why are we a
cold outbound? Why are we contacting them is the first reason. Why are we contacting them? And who are we? That's
pretty much it. They need to know those two things straight up, right? So, you need to be extremely and abundantly
clear because if they need it, they'll continue to talk. If they don't, just hang up the phone, too. Go to the next
lead. It don't matter. That's that's that's coal, guys. We're sifting for gold. That's coal. Um,
once you get that to that point, um, you should know if you're hitting a certain niche, you should know there
three biggest pain points that you can solve with AI. You should know that off the back of your like literally just as
well as you know the back of your palm. You should know that, right? So from those that's the only front-facing
things that we're pushing the main pain point that may be the second pain point maybe the third but I know that when we
go to HVAC it is voice AI as the entry it just is that's their biggest pain point it is we can solve so much with
their business if we just solve this. When I look at peptide companies it is a tracking CRM affiliate problem. It is I
know that for a fact. Um, when I go to insurance companies, it is just about how they manage their leads. That's it.
Before they get make a sale and after they make a sale. That's it, right? I I already know that going be even before a
setting call. So, I can go just in with that angle. When I get in the demo closing call and do that 10 15 minutes
of business exploration and talking to the client, learning about the business, in my head, I'm thinking about all the
like all the things that Luminina can do, all the things that Front Runners can do, everything that we could do to
serve them. I've talked to Claude. I've talked to enough clients to know the different type of [ __ ] that I've sold or
could have sold in the past that I could sell to them, right? But if I don't think they're ready for overhaul, if I
don't think that they would hand me the keys to their business fully, I would always just sell the main thing that
we're on for. And then if I knock it out the park for them, show them I'm an expert, show them I'm a professional,
that I'm responsive, they will buy more [ __ ] They just will. I'm the AI guy, >> right?
>> Okay. Another question. >> Yeah. Uh what is the exact like framework for a uh a closing call? So
you have set the frame or would you build report first then set >> act one? If you go to remote sales.com
the that link that link in um the closing lab that's in our channels it's the one call close framework. That's the
framework that I'm always referring to. That [ __ ] is my life's work. Like actually I've made all my money just
from that piece of document right there. That's all typed by my own fingers. Everything that's there is valid.
There's no word that's on there that I didn't type that I didn't keep. There >> is in the sales coaching call or
>> it's called the one one call close. Um it's in closing lab and then you go to RST and it's the one call close
framework. >> Okay. Okay. >> And if I could go if I could fly through
it quickly, you just set the frame of the call, set who you are, set how the call is going to go. Then you do
business logistics, then you get the pain point, then you get the goal, then you get the further goal, then you are
confident you're helping them bridge the gap. Then you do commitment. Why you why AI urgent? Why urgent to work with you?
Why urgent AI? Then you close. Pretty much it. And before the close, before you drop the price, you're just
pre-handling for every single objection. You have to pre-handle for every there's only six things they could do to tell
you no. You have to make sure that they don't bring that up at the end of the call. That's pretty much it. That's why
I could go from niche and niche to niche to niche and just sell. Like I am working on redacting a good amount of
calls so you guys can hear. Dude, I sound the [ __ ] same. My questions are the [ __ ] same to the peptide clinic,
to the stem cell clinic, to the oil and gas. It's just the same. Um that's why it's a framework. Yeah.
Uh Jake, it's so good to have you in here, man. What's good? Do you have commentary, advice for me, questions for
us? Like, what you >> Yes, sir. >> What up? Nice to meet y'all. Uh Jake, uh
started working with him and following his content for a while. Uh thought we could both help each other out, some
some assets. >> Uh I think I had some stuff to add earlier on,
I guess, the development side of things. I mean, I haven't even looked at Luminina, but like, bro, you you sell
anything. Like, AI is at a point right now where like any problem they have, like you can solve. So, as long as you
can sound professional, that's like all they're really looking for. And then also, uh I forgot who asked the
question, but like proving yourself as like an authority figure in the space. That's kind of something I'm trying to
work on as well. like in the AI space, the AI niche, realistically like all of you guys taking the step being in the
call, being here, like you already know more about AI, how to sell AI than like 99% of people and especially these
business owners. And at least in like my experience, when you get on a call with these business owners, they think they
know everything, but they just don't know how to implement it. Like they're using TragBT to like whatever. They're
using tragedy to like think of ideas and get dopamine rushes the way like AI works. They don't they don't know how to
actually like incorporate this stuff into the company. So, if you can show that this is what you do like not in a
growth operator sense, but like the systems you're implementing are going to grow their company, I think that's what
a lot of these people are looking for. And I think like kind of my business model is more tailored around kind of
the long-term partnerships, becoming like an AI partner, quote unquote, with these companies. Uh, so it's just
another thing to think about. But yeah, I mean, at least in relation to like content and proving yourself as an
authoritative figure in the space, like it's really literally if you just post content about AI, people will think you
know what you're talking about. That's why you guys are seeing like all the Jarvis systems and
>> it's it's [ __ ] You could literally just post something you made on cloud in five minutes and become an expert. But
[laughter] uh >> that's so true. That's so true. I post a demo. 4K views over 100 DMs.
>> Like, bro, >> it's crazy. >> That's inbound. That's crazy. Inbound.
What you uh what rev did you do this month? What you how much did you sell this month, bro?
>> Yeah. So, this month, I mean, so I'm I'm in college right now. I play football. So, we had fall camp. Just started our
season. We had our last game last week. Uh but I did around like 15,000 10 15,000. Uh, and then also a good part of
that's like reoccurring. I haven't been spending as much time as I want to like on my actual offer. So, I'm trying to
get back to that. Uh, and then I actually had a question for Tim that I think might help out
>> uh the people in the community. So, in regards to posting content, let's say you don't niche down or obviously you
have your niches, but you get an opportunity through like a referral or a warm inbound or whatever the case may
be, like you just happen to stumble on a sales call with someone from like a niche you're not familiar with. How
would you handle kind of selling relatively the same systems >> uh and agents to people from like a
plethora of different niches? >> Yeah. Yeah. Before I answer that, um what's your goal for this month? What
you going to riff this month, bro? >> I mean, I I think I I have a lot of stuff systematically and operationally
to make it become more of a reoccurring thing. Uh, so I I mean, I'm I would love to have a
30K month. I mean, that would be sick. >> Yeah, double your business. You can do it.
>> I mean, that would be fire. But >> let's get it done. Let's get her done. Um, I'm sure this month you didn't work
as hard as you wanted to. No. >> Yeah. >> Um,
>> yeah. >> A lot of room for improvement. >> But, uh, answering your question on, uh,
the the content portion, I think, um, when you post in volume, people will see. Um, and you just kind of need you
need a mix of both. Um, I answer your question in this way. So I think about content also in it's either
top of it's either top of funnel or it's either bottom of funnel there there's no middle of funnel. It doesn't exist. Um
you're posting to get eyeballs with no CTA. The post is just to get eyeballs or the post is just toformationally
authoritatively or educationally sell your thing. Um, and even with I think you brought up interesting point if you
just like put up a post and people would think you're the expert. Like imagine if you posted one a day like
you are the like they're not going to doubt that. They're not they're really just not going to doubt you. Um, even
with LinkedIn, all people have to do is take a look, take a scroll and be like I they know what they're talking about.
I'm going to show up to the call like that. like kind of small stuff like that's all it takes for someone just to
show up to call for you to sell them something. But I think there was a lagging second question. What was it
directly, Jake? >> Uh it was something around the fact of like how would you sell a system and
sell these agents to people from multiple different industries and niches. Yeah,
>> exactly. So when he posts super topunnel even just for AI, it will come like just random projects. It will range from SAS
to Tim can you make me a trading bot? Tim, can you make me a this? Like I get a huge range of stuff. And that's why I
love having AI front runners. Uh because basically I could just give the deal to someone who could do it and then I'm
like, give me a percentage. Um so how I would technically approach that um is I still wouldn't dev it all myself or get
it done all myself. I just work on it as a partner like a JV deal with someone. Um and if you think about it, we want to
be doing as many JV deals in here as possible. If I'm the expert, AI expert, we got a guy near Hayden Demars that is
an absolute monster at AEO. I'm about to go to my entire book of business and be like, I could sell you AEO now. I got
AEO plug and immediately I'm going to do like 30 bands in a day. I'm going to do it and document it. Like uh it's it's
fairly, you know, like it's something that I couldn't offer and if someone came to me like can you do AEO? I'm like
no or I'm down to say yes to anything. That's why it's amazing that we have Archie in the group chat or he's in our
group because Archie if it's mad compliant. It's already happened a couple times. Mad compliant deals like
super big overhaul [ __ ] out of long sales cycle. I'm just like, "Archie, I'm going to help you get through this deal
and you do all of it. Give me 25%." Bet. I I'm still trying to make money off it, but I I know I couldn't service it, but
Archie got it. Archie got compliance down. Or if it's a government contract, too. Uh, I'm just giving it to Archie.
Like, bro, bro can figure that [ __ ] out. I just want my cut. So, it's still technically in my brain, it's still like
I'm arbiting the developer, but that's like more of a pure affiliate, but still like, dude, if it's money, I'm not going
to let it go through. I respect money. If there's a Dawn on the ground, I'm picking it up. I respect money
even. I respect every deal, too. That's what guys would post. Guys, I we have The Wins channel has been silent as [ __ ]
ever since we had the leaderboards. Let's add right after this call. Let's add wins and leaderboard [ __ ] guys. Um,
but I'm happy when you guys post $500 deal, $1,200 deal, 2K, 3K deal, cuz I know that you could eventually sell them
more [ __ ] Congratulations. Let's book a business, right? So, we have to learn how to think creatively and have
creative deals as well, right? I I'm glad that we have another MRR kind of AI consultant, equity AI chief AI guy cuz
uh I'm as creative as possible with my deals with Ascend, bro. Like let's figure out how we could
do no money down. You know what I mean? Like I'm down. I'm with it. Let's figure it out. Like if it if it makes money, it
makes sense. Hey, every time. Um, and especially if you think about a buildout with what we have with Luminina and
Front Runners, guys, that's like dirt cheap. Like guys, go today. Go to school and Facebook and other Discord group. Go
and try to find guys at this rate. Just try. Actually, I dare you. Go ahead and try.
I don't even dare you to actually do it. Like, see what's out there. It's It's interesting. Uh,
but I hope that somewhat answers your question, Jake. If that does. >> Yeah. Sweet.
>> Just don't let those deals fall through and just start making connection with a good amount of our guys. Our guys can do
magic, though. Joe, Rackis, our devs, like they could do magic with our help with Garrett, too, even potentially
bringing on Avi. Like, these are guys that they can build anything. Like, if a company says it's impossible, tell them
if I make it possible, will you give me 30 racks? That's what you say. You know what I mean?
>> I'm looking for that one call close framework. I I see the high ticket sales framework and the scholarship framework.
Is that is the high ticket one? >> It might be that it might be that one. Yeah. Yeah. The first one on top.
>> Yeah. >> Uh it's it's clean and it works. I haven't changed it in like about a year
or two. It works. Still works. I feel like I was early. I was so early on like pre-handling parts and then more
recently over the past one to two years like it's just that's industry standard now.
Yeah, I think this is the right one >> cuz if you guys have been in like info agency space like a couple years ago,
like four or five years ago, there was so much like objection handling training or like objection box like object. It
was all about objections. And then I was like, dude, why don't I just like have people tell me no object? What do I need
to say to make people give me no objections? You just objection block. Um, and people do that now. It's
industry standard, so you guys should do it, too. Um, everything that I built off of is
through Cole Gordon or Jeremy Miner. I haven't learned sales from anybody else. So, or I just like invented it and it
kind of worked. So, but if I was to watch anyone, it would be them just for the sales portion. There's a lot of LARs
in sales. Oh, JP Egan, too. He's amazing. Um, he's part of seventh level with Jeremy Miner. Um
but yeah, do your external research like you guys should be put in that work. Any other questions?
It would be cool if you could review the video. I'll put in the chat if you see it.
>> I bet. Hold on. Let me see this real quick. Hold on. Aiden.
>> Oh, hello. >> Can you give me a second? I'm still on the call. No,
>> you're good. Wait, where'd you send it? Wait, where'd you send it?
Oh, you literally texted me. >> No, in the it's in the this VC chat. >> Oh, it's in chat. Okay.
>> From a sprinkler and asks how to shut it off. Here's where I try to break it. >> Meridian Fire and Life Safety. This is
Avery. How can I help you? >> We have water leaking around one of the sprinkler heads in our building.
>> So, it's format. All right. I want you to pay attention to format. So, like the idea of what you're doing is correct,
but the format's just like is not going to get any reach. People don't want to see that. So, what I would recommend is,
bro, think about how to there's just there's competition out there. Like I told you guys, just use Manyhat. Just
give people a lead magnet and get their optin, get their name, phone, email. Give them some lead magnet. What content
can you do to get push people to a lead magnet, right? It's just purely an audit or a demo. It needs to be cleaner than
that. Like if you have a loom just of your demo and then your face right here and then you just record a loom like
looms all day. They're two to five. They're a couple minutes long have looms. Just post the damn loom as a real
on LinkedIn as a video on Twitter as a video. uh you'll get enough traction in about a couple weeks to get start
getting free deals. [snorts] Like my like the amount of deal flow you'll get is like unexpected. Like you wouldn't
believe it. Like Jake, attest this [ __ ] to me. Like bro, it's free. Like they >> it's so free. Like
>> it's great. Like I literally you can literally go to my page. My first video I'm like yo been trying to post content
for a while. Finally like got it out there. Second video I just like shitty production. And I literally like
stuttered, filmed the video, showed like the system I built. It's like 115,000 views and I had like thousands of people
DM me. I'm like I wasn't really ready to handle it, but Lead Flow was there. So like if that's if that's your bottleneck
right now, like there's nothing stopping you from from attacking it from every angle.
>> Same same principle. You're Neil, you're a fitness coach, right? I can't hear you.
still can't hear you. Well, you need a fitness coach and he posts a lot of content about fitness.
Um, and I'm sure that's how he gets his clients. Um, that's just one method, though. It just helps serve everything
very well. Like, if they search up your name, they're like, "Oh [ __ ] he really loves what he does. He really into this
AI [ __ ] He's pretty deep." Um, >> yeah, fix that [ __ ]
>> So, when it comes to like formatting or when it comes to the demos, like what would be uh
>> I mean, in my head, a demo would be like just call it on your phone, like prop up uh whatever on your phone and just like
call them on your laptop, like show it, show it actually happening. You know what I mean?
>> And then maybe in the comments it could be directly just like um comment the word demo and I'll send you the full
demo or that could be a caption on the thing too. But I promise you, just post 10 of those and change the variation
every single time and you'll be better the 11th post. Just need to post more. But I remember my first talking head
post took me like an hour. Now I can oneshot it in like three minutes. Film it in one minute, edit in one minute,
post it in one minute on Tik Tok and Instagram. Three minutes. I do 10 posts a day. I only spend 30 minutes a day on
content. >> But obviously I've been doing it for like a couple years now. So, but
>> so definitely posting videos of like demos of voice AI or custom CRM you built.
>> You know how many Lumina can do? I don't know. Wait, Joe, how many niches can Lumina pivot to?
>> It's over a hundred >> over a hundred >> right now.
>> Like you think >> today just make one for every niche and like [laughter] that would work. Like
>> I'm trying to think because my Instagram it's I mainly just made it for fun. It's just like me cold calling and talking
about AI. >> I don't know if I should just make a whole another Instagram and a whole
another page for like the actual business just the most important thing is just
LinkedIn, dude. Like LinkedIn and X. >> My LinkedIn is at like 250 connections now and I've just started doing
LinkedIn. >> Like 80 last week. >> Yeah. I've been like
>> you're almost at 500. Good [ __ ] >> I know. That's what I'm trying to get to. And I have automated posts posting
every day three times a day just talking about AI. Uh, >> right now, now tighten the parameter and
focus on your three niches. Have a talk just about your three niches and everything that serves your three
niches. Start making those automatic connections. >> Oh, yeah.
>> Even in the peptide clinic [ __ ] Chris, who we just closed, he
I just know he saw my LinkedIn and he's on LinkedIn. We have like 10 plus mutuals that are all in the peptide
space. to him he's like that's his version of like when you like make a new friend and add him on Insta and like oh
[ __ ] you know XYZ and the ABC same same version of that. Um I've connected with so many people on LinkedIn that
someone's bound to have some mutual u but yeah for content you you guys should just push something clean. But that's
what I mean. Like guys, you guys aren't making like dancing monkey videos. Like, dude, I'm not telling you guys to be
some circus [ __ ] Like, we're doing professional audits and professional demos and
um even informational and educational. It helps out. And these are things that you can continue. You're just building
evergreen assets for yourself to send to your clients to pre-nurture them. I promise you, you do that demo once a
day. you post the demo once a day, six days a week for a month, you are bound to get high from that [ __ ] And at at
some degree too, um you will you are bound to have one golden video that pops off that you then send as the asset,
pre- nurture asset to your clients when you book that call. Yo, take a look at what we do.
But if you guys got hit guys hitting the phones, we're sending email campaigns, SMS campaigns. How the [ __ ] are we not
booking calls? Uh just clean up your sales SOP, guys. Like clean clean up your clean up your triages. It should be
clean enough. Um but that's just one aspect. Content is just one aspect. I would say in degrees
of importance maybe uh 15 to 20% of acquisition. Much to do. Much to do.
>> Look at all this [ __ ] I got on my to-do list. There's a lot I got to do. >> Good [ __ ] You need a bigger board.
[laughter] I love it. I love to see that. I want you guys to try hard. I'm a try hard. I
used to get bullied for that [ __ ] but it's good. I [ __ ] with my tryards.
The three niches are: 1) Your Background – leverage your existing industry knowledge (insurance, real estate, high ticket sales) to build one solution and sell to similar businesses. 2) High-Ticket / Private Equity Backed – target businesses with millions in the bank, charging $8K–$15K upfront for complete overhauls of websites, backend systems, and CRMs. 3) Evergreen Growth Niche – serve smaller businesses like peptide clinics, stem cell clinics, or med spas with smaller deals ($1K–$5K) for steady daily cash flow.
Use an omnichannel outbound approach: SMS with power dialers and blast tracking, email with strong deliverability using platforms like Apollo or Try GTM, phone with commission-only setters, and GTM agents that automate lead intent and booking. Start with outbound to build systems and confidence, then run ads once dialed in.
The call follows a 5-step framework: 1) Set the call – explain the process and confirm the decision-maker. 2) Pain → Logistics – understand their business bottlenecks and goals. 3) Push goals – expand their vision from current revenue to exit or family freedom. 4) Commitment & urgency – establish why AI, why you, and why now. 5) Pitch & close – use their own words to build connection, then handle objections.
You have access to 25+ developers at low costs, creating huge margins. For example, a voice AI setup costing $650 setup and $45/month can be charged at $5K down and $1,800/month. You can charge $10K+ for an AI dashboard or CRM that costs $350–$700 to build. Artificially create success milestones and be hyper-responsive to keep clients loving you.
Optimize your profile: headline should directly state who you help (e.g., 'I help oil & gas businesses with AI systems'), use a simple city skyline plus professional headshot as banner, aim for 500+ connections for credibility, and post often to go viral using follow farming tactics. Clients will Google you, so make your LinkedIn scream authority.
Track four key numbers daily: dials per day, booked calls, close rate percentage, and average deal size. When you track these, you know exactly what actions produce what results, allowing you to stop hoping and become a true professional.
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