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What should the consequence be if you enter the country illegally? >> Um, I don't know. A fine. I [laughter] don't care. >> He had no compassion. So, why would we have compassion for him? >> Why would we have compassion for Charlie Kirk? Why are you against ICE? >> They're running around like fascists, just doing what they want, like straight breaking crimes, >> but oh, they're getting rid of violent immigrants, which they just aren't doing. I want you to tell me the number of that's being committed in fraud that we found just so far. >> Fraud. Uh, I don't care. >> What is this? Did you uh Did you do your thing on here? >> I I did do my thing on here. >> What did you write? >> I I wrote it really small right here. F ICE. >> Yeah. Ice. Why do you say that? >> Um because Oh my goodness. It's on the spot. Um, it's okay because they just they killed that guy, you know, that defenseless man. That's very sad. That's very unfortunate. >> Very sad. I hate that that happened, right? It's a complete tragedy when someone dies, right? Especially in that way. It's it's brutal to see and no one wants to see it and it sucks that it it was uh televised for everyone to see. Kind of like Charlie Kirk was also killed on a college campus. And um I agree, Israel did it. I agree. No, I'm sorry. >> Israel did it. >> I have Israel, too. I have a question. >> Don't Hold on. I'm talking to her real quick. >> Why did he said that that could happen if people got guns? Like, he knew that was going to happen. And he was for guns. Who are you talking about? You said he What about Charlie? He said that deaths because of guns was okay, right? He had no compassion. So, why would we have compassion for him? Why would we have compassion for Charlie Kirk? Uh because he was publicly assassinated. Hold on, you asked me a question. Because he was publicly assassinated in front of a bunch of college students for just sitting there with a microphone opening dialogue to people who wanted to talk to him. That's why we should have compassion. I think I think we agree on that. I think we're all um capable of speaking and protesters, that's what we're doing because families are getting turned apart. Yeah. So that's what we're speaking. Just like Charlie Kirk's family who is now suffering because he was taken from them and publicly assassinated. So why did you say Okay, stop doing that. Stop doing that. >> Stop him from doing it. He's done. He's done doing it. But you said we shouldn't have COMPASSION [laughter] FOR HIM. I think we should have compassion for violence. And I think that's literally what you're doing. violence. You're inciting violence. How so? >> You are. LOOK AT THAT. >> Look at that. I'm over here, >> right? But look at that. >> I'm over here. >> You're inciting it. You're inciting violence. That was what you're doing. I'm just talking to you. How is this violence? >> You're coming here attacking and asking us to have compassion about Charlie Kirk when this is not about Charlie Kirk. This is about the immigrants that they're killing here. Yeah. To be fair, You started talking about not having compassion for Charlie Kirk. You said that. I didn't even care to dive into that conversation. >> Compassion for what's going on. >> I do. Okay. >> Okay. So, I also have compassion when there are women and children being murdered and raped by illegal aliens in this country. When we sit here and we talk about f ICE, I abolish ICE, I think it's very dangerous rhetoric to sit here and advocate for that. When they get people off the streets like this, all of these people right here, rapists and pedophiles. >> What about Liam? Was he a pedophile? >> That 5-year-old was a pedophile. >> No, I did not say that. >> Okay. So, >> why are we not speaking about him then? >> If you want to speak about him, you can. But I'm talking about the I'm talking about the people who were killed >> and raped and committed against with acts of violence by these illegal aliens to talk about that. This is a [laughter] protest with ICE, not the people that were murdered. We're here to be conscious about ICE and the families that are being turned apart. >> Do you think there's any area in this conversation for the victims of illegal immigrants? >> Of course, but this is not the conversation that we're having right now. >> That 5-year-old boy was abandoned by his father. That 5-year-old was taken apart by an ICE agent in the [ __ ] cold. He was left abandoned without his family. 5 years old. Where did his family go? >> Didn't you say you were against that? Where did his family go? >> Why are you all of a sudden defending that? Where did his family go? To a detention center. When you saw that picture of him standing there, that little 5-year-old boy, he got into the custody of ICE because his father abandoned him and his his mother and the rest of his family would not open the door to take him >> because that's tearing apart families. Do you think that's okay? YOU ARE ARE YOU ARE YOU AT ALL open to the IDEA open to the idea that you might be wrong about what happened? >> I'm not wrong about what's happening with us. I'm very conscious and that's why I'm here. Why do you say guys? Cuz you're taking all the families away that like if it was your family that was in your position then you would be in the same like rooting for the same team. Yeah. I imagine it's pretty traumatizing to have someone in your family. >> Were your parents taken away from here? Sorry, >> I'm sorry. >> Were your parents taken away from here? Like even if >> you you were born here, right? >> I was born here. Okay. >> And but what if my parents came over and I was born here and you just illegally took my parents? >> Yeah. If your parents came over illegally? >> I was born here though. I was illegal. >> Okay. Were your parents illegal? >> No. But I have friends who have lost their parents and I know you would be like really sad if you lost their parents. >> But the thing is we have to maintain our immigration laws, right? >> Yes. But you could >> you could like get funding for efforts to that instead of taking away people that are already here that have already started a foundation in this country. >> This country is already illegal. You did not obtain it legally. >> We didn't obtain the country legally >> like the United [cheering] States. Yes. >> I'm sorry. >> The United States >> was not obtained legally. >> Yes. >> Okay. How so? [cheering] >> We're doing a segment on their protest as a bystander. What do you think? [laughter] >> Uh guys, uh I don't like them. They kidnap people. >> Uh >> who who are they kidnapping? >> Uh immigrants. Uh brown people. Uh anybody they don't like and shooting them in the face, too. >> Mhm. >> Uh sometimes. >> Sometimes. Yeah. So, so you you've what you've seen online is that you've come to the conclusion that they're literally kidnapping people. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And do do kidnappers usually take people and then send them back home? >> Uh they're not going home. They're going to places they've never been to sometimes. >> Some of them are if their home country won't take them. But just answer my question. Do kidnappers usually take people home? >> Um well, they're not taking them home. So yeah, they're kidnapping them and they're not getting any due process either. So, it's kidnapping. >> What What is the due process that they aren't getting? >> Um, they're not seeing courtrooms. They're not seeing lawyers. They're being prevented from seeing them. >> How do you know that? >> I think that's wrong. Uh, there's a lot of reporting online. Uh, there's videos, there's, uh, a lot of evidence. So, I mean, >> I see people shooting other people in the face and putting people in vans, and I don't think it's right. So, >> Okay. What should the consequence be if you enter the country illegally? Um, I don't know. A fine. I don't care. [laughter] >> You should just be fined. >> Yeah. I I don't know. I mean, I think it should be a week long, month-long process, not a year'sl long process. >> Okay. So, we should have all the resources available that if someone comes in the country illegally, we make them an American citizen in one week. >> Uh, yeah. I mean, I I think it should be uh as simple as, "Hey, are you a criminal?" No. Uh, come on in. I mean there are Americans that are criminals and >> so when they come from countries that are specifically like third world countries or countries that have vastly different laws than us. So some countries think that child marriage is okay, raping your wife is okay. They think that being a terrorist is actually part of their religion. When those people are coming in when their government allows those things, how can we vet them to know they aren't here to hurt people? Um, I mean, people >> in a week, especially in a week. How do we do that in a week? >> People come in for all sorts of reasons. Um, I'm not here to say who's coming in for what reason, but um, those people that are coming from third world countries, um, are fleeing from all sorts of persecution. Um, and even if they aren't, uh, who am I to say? As soon as we start judging people by like why they may or may not be coming here, uh I I don't feel like that's our place. It's >> we should definitely judge judge people based on why they're coming to the United States. If they're coming to commit fraud and in a brazen scheme and taking billions of tax dollars from us, we can judge that. Who's not doing that? >> Uh immigrants aren't taking billions. >> Yeah. Somalian immigrants are doing it in Minneapolis. >> I don't think so. >> So you think that's false? Yeah. I think your makeup is super cool. I really like it. Would you like say you're kind of like goth and what alternative? Okay. Very cool. Why are you against ICE? >> Um because they're running around like fascists just doing what they want. Like straight breaking crimes, but oh, they're getting rid of violent immigrants, which they just aren't doing. >> They aren't They aren't doing that. >> Some are getting rid of violent immigrants. >> I didn't even know. some of the violent immigrants that they've gotten rid of, and these are just a few actually. Um, >> but the overwhelming majority aren't. >> Most of them are just hardworking, not citizens, hardworking people in this country, benefiting the economy and >> benefiting the economy. How are they benefiting the economy? >> They're working, they're buying things, they're supporting businesses, >> moving around money. >> Yeah. But how much money how much money do does an illegal immigrant uh how much money do they contribute that community annually? >> Maybe I should have uh >> I don't know numbers. >> You don't know numbers? >> I just know my parents are immigrants and they came to this country and have >> helped stimulate the economy. >> It's about $ 38 billion that they contribute to the economy. Do you know how much they cost the taxpayer? >> No. It's about 150 billion up to upwards of 300 billion annually. >> How are they costing >> all of this? How are they doing that? >> Yeah. So, healthcare, specifically hospitals, education, when they're in schools, taxpayers are paying for their education, housing. Housing is a big one. And then when uh they don't pay taxes, they don't I'm sorry. >> Are you saying that the government is paying for the housing? sing, right? >> That's happening in California and and New York. This has been under uncovered by Savannah Hernandez. She's an investigative journalist. Everybody should go check out her work. But absolutely, yes, that is happening. They are putting them in hotels. They aren't deporting them. They are giving them health care, especially in California. They cost a taxpayer 150 to $300 billion a year. >> So, like I just you mentioned it was California and New York. These are >> I'm I'm talking about specifically. >> Yeah. These are more democratic and left-leaning states. I'm assuming it's because they have policies in place to help these people. >> What about it is false to you? >> I don't have any sort of prejudice against Somali people more than I do uh any other people. And to be clear, there are uh people that do fraud here and are >> and should they be held accountable? >> Definitely. Absolutely. But you don't think that the >> basis of race or ethnicity or >> so they aren't doing it because they're Somali. They're doing it and they're Somali and that has become an issue in the Somali community. Billions of dollars and you just think that's fake. >> Uh it's not billions. Uh >> how much is it? >> I don't know. And you don't either. So >> will you tell me cuz it's up to 8 billion. I want you to tell me the number of that's being committed in fraud that we found just so far. >> Fraud. Uh, I don't care. I I think there's um people being kidnapped on the streets and being shot in the face and uh I think that's wrong. That's all I'm here for. Um I don't judge people on the basis of race or their honestly their their legal status in this country. I think >> But you judge ICE agents. >> Yeah. Oh, for >> you you judge people by their jobs. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If your job if your job is a fraudster and you're a Somalian in Minnesota, you won't you put race above their job. But for an ICE agent, you sit there and you want to falsely claim that they are kidnapping people. We both know they're not, but rhetoric like that gets people hurt. You still give me no proof for that. Who are they kidnapping? >> What's your proof for $8 billion? I mean, that's a lot of money. >> Yeah. Nick Shirley had to testify in court under oath about the fraud that he has uncovered as an in investigative journalist. 40ome people have already been arrested because of that and charged. So, this is something you can't deny. Where is your proof that they are kidnapping people? >> Um, I mean, look at the videos. Uh, I I even if they aren't kidnapping people, they definitely are shooting them. Um, and I mean, there's there's hundreds of thousands of families that have been torn apart by this. Um, and I just I I I it makes me sick to my stomach seeing it happen. So, >> do you also >> What's your name, by the way? >> My [clears throat] name's Caitlyn. What's your name? >> Oh, um, I won't say. >> Why not? Uh because I know this is going to be shown online and I've got all sorts of friends. >> You've got all sorts of friends. >> Yeah. And family and they matter to me and I don't want my name online. Uh if it's going to be taken out of context or anything. >> All right. Have a good day. Hi. >> How are you? I'm good. I've actually It's so weird. I watched so many of your videos in the past and here you are in person. Yeah, >> here I am in person doing our thing. >> What do you think about um what do you think about it? want to play. >> Um I am very sad that those young women lost their lives, but uh the way that I see it um their loss of life as well as Renee Good and others who have been killed with it's kind of on the same par. I care about people's humanity, people's safety. So I think we're all out here just >> generally against violence and yeah. [cheering] >> Would you agree with what they're asking for to abolish ICE? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay. So you would Okay. My question is what is the solution then [cheering] if we were to abolish ICE? Who would carry out the deportations and who would do immigration enforcement? >> Yeah, of course. So I think the entire idea of like abolishing an institution is that we can rebuild from the bottom, right? I don't reform. >> No, we want to abolish and then maybe a new institution to take place over what ICE does in our society because it is important that we protect our people who live here from whether or not they're immigrant criminals or criminals in general. But as an institution, I think we seriously do need to abolish it and then rebuild from the bottom. So, >> what is your prescription [cheering] for rebuilding? What are some things you would like to see if it were to be rebuilt? >> Yeah, for sure. Um, I'm really just a college senior. I am not so well endowed in like political science or how to learn a government, but I just like to keep the imagination open and seeking for the future and having hope that we can live in a country and not be afraid of dying. whether you're one of these women or whether you're an American citizen that was harmed by the police or ICE. >> So, here's the thing. When you advocate and you want to see ICE to be abolished, >> but you really have no prescription about what to do afterwards. >> Yeah. >> So, these women were killed >> by illegal aliens who were caught [cheering] >> and then released back into the interior of the United States. >> They had no prior history. Some of them did, but they were caught and they could have been deported right then and there, but they weren't because ICE was told not to do that under the Joe Biden administration. >> My thing is when you want to abolish it and don't let them do their job according to the law, >> this is what you get. >> Yeah. >> This is what you get. And it's a lot more than, well, we, you know, we would love to see it abolished and then we'll think about, you know, how to rebuild it. We don't have that privilege. those women didn't have that that privilege to say, "Oh, well, you know, we'll see what happens after." They were killed by people who got caught and could have been deported had ICE been allowed to do their job. [cheering] So, I think it's important that when we when we ask and how privileged is it for people to stand here and say abolish ICE, that's coming from a place of privilege. those women do not have that privilege to come out here anymore and even talk to their friends or breathe uh anything like that. And so I think it's important what we advocate for because this is the these are the victims of that. >> Uh >> I don't really have more to say. Um I don't think you're going to agree. Of course it was. Yeah. Thank you for >> having a good day. >> Friends, what do you think about their protest? Are you joining? >> This is a great protest. Go. Let's go. I'm I'm an immigrant myself from Cuba. I came here in 2010 and I'm with these people. Immigrants should be welcome here. >> Yeah. Do you think immigrants aren't welcome or do you think it's that the administration wants to go after illegal immigrants? >> Um I think he's illegal. >> No, I'm legal. But I think they're just trying to go after illegal immigrants that some of them should be taken out. But I think they should do like more research behind who they take out because some people have been like working here and they've like started their own lives and you could tell like they should be US citizens and not be getting kicked out. >> Why Why shouldn't they be kicked out if they broke a law? >> H if they did break a law then they should. But >> no, I mean if they came into the country illegally, if they're working, they're working illegally. You can't work if you're an illegal citizen. They're not paying taxes because they don't have a social security number because they're working illegally. >> Should we have consequences for that? >> Yeah, we definitely should. >> What should the consequences be? >> Uh start new laws and just try and get everything more together so that we can have a little bit more organization behind all of this. >> So, the laws already say you can't do that and you'll be deported if you do. >> Yeah. >> Shouldn't they apply the law and deport the people who are doing that? M I don't know. >> You don't know? >> I don't know. >> Why not? They've broken several of our immigration laws. >> M I don't know. You got me there on that one, though. >> All right. Well, you think about that a little bit more. Okay. >> So, let me ask you this. If we were to abolish ICE, who would deport the criminals? >> I believe there's things in place to take care of that. >> Like what? >> ICE is one of them. I can't name anything off the top of my head, but at the very least have trained have ICE be trained people and not have it be like this bill that's been trying to be passed of giving more money to ICE. Just use what they have. >> You know, the military gets so much money. >> Yeah, ICE isn't part of the military. >> I know it's >> I'm just wondering your solution. What is the solution if we abolish ICE? That's what I'm looking for. What What is your solution? >> Um, >> how do we remove these people? >> I'm not a politician, >> so I don't have an answer. >> Okay. >> Um, but I do see the horrible things I doing. And >> they should not be killing a protester for recording. >> Yeah, I don't think they've killed anyone just for recording. I don't think they I don't think anyone has been shot just because they were recording. And I think it's awful when anyone dies, especially in an altercated with altercation with federal law enforcement. Do you support the people that are in these ICE watch programs that are going out there following um federal officers, recording them, and trying to dearrest dearrest people? >> Dear arrest, >> that's part of their handbook with ICE Watch is to dearrest an illegal alien or someone who is being detained. They have a a handbook of how to dearrest dearrest somebody. So basically get them away from the officer and let them go free. Would you say that that's probably not a good idea or you like, "Yeah, that's okay." >> Well, right now what's going on with ICE if they're being incredibly violent that they just don't need to and sometimes just killing people, >> I do support that because they're saving lives. Do you think the protesters who are fighting with law enforcement and de-arresting the people who are being detained, you think that's a good idea because they're saving people? >> Fighting law enforcement, I feel like in most cases is not right. Um, but our constitution does say we need to protect our rights if they are trying to force their way into your home, search your property without a warrant. >> Where is that happening? Um, someone mentioned earlier that ICE is now they could write their own warrants and be allowed to go into your house. >> They don't need a judge's signature. They could just >> That's an administrative warrant. And that has the ability to go and arrest arrest illegal aliens. You need a judicial warrant to enter private places like someone's home. So that's not happening. They can't write their own warrants to be able to go into your home. that has to have a judicial signature. They can write their own warrants to arrest people. >> Um they were saying that they're like ICE management has been telling them you could write your own warrants. >> Who who is ICE management? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. >> I don't know exactly. It was just someone said it earlier. >> Who's who said it? >> I don't know. >> Someone's like someone said it here. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Perhaps they're wrong. Maybe >> may maybe they're wrong. Maybe they're wrong. >> I really liked how all the students were getting together and protesting for such a good cause. You know, uh the recent events of ICE, especially in Minnesota, and the actions they've taken. Um it's just really unconstitutional. I'm glad people are coming together and speaking out about it. >> What exactly is unconstitutional? >> [clears throat] >> Well, typically from what I know, I'm not too I haven't researched well in depth. From what I know, um use of force by police officers and like um agents or law agents, I'd say they it's just like the level of force they're allowed to use. Um like >> I should rehearse this. um >> the level of force they're using, the deadly force they're using is typically not supposed to be allowed. They're not supposed to be above the law. >> And police agents or police officers are are trained, you know, like with the instance of Renee Good not to step in front of a vehicle cuz that's um self-caused um jeopardy. Do you think he he kind of put himself in that position to be >> I I believe from from the videos that I've seen, the officer did put himself in front of the the vehicle causing harm or causing um jeopardy to himself. So regardless of um Renee Good's intentions, whether she was legitimately trying to run him over, he did put himself in front of the car and that does not legitimize his use of deadly force. >> Okay. Very interesting. Very interesting. But where does it become? So, so under the whole like justified use of force, it's not about, you know, hindsight and looking at wheels were turned here and this was their their intention. The use of force and deadly force and to protect an officer's life. They need to feel and feel justified in using lethal force if they feel that their life or the lives of their fellow officers are in danger. When someone is being hit with a car, um it typically comes back justified for them to use lethal force, especially when that same officer was just, you know, dragged by a car a few months earlier and had to get like 36 stitches in his arm. So, he's he's dealt it and he's done with that. Um, when [clears throat] you say it's unconstitutional though, can you point to anything anywhere in the Constitution where you can say they're breaking this article, they're breaking this or you know what what exactly in the Constitution? Is it just the the use of force that you're saying or is all of ICE unconstitutional? >> Well, I mean, we've had ICE since um like 2001 for >> 2003. >> 2003. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um I don't think ICE itself is unconstitutional. [snorts] I think um or maybe unconstitutional is not the right um category, but I think you know under um Trump's current presidency, he's severely restricted the length of training. Yeah, >> he reduced the the Spanish proficiency like training from 5 weeks to nothing. >> Um and over it's it's like 47 days now. the training and there's the background checks they're doing for agents from what I've seen um people have like slipped in without you know drug tests or even um being you know supporters of the current like agenda. >> Okay. So you have some problems maybe with how ICE agents are being hired? >> Yes. >> Okay. Do you have any problems with ICE itself and their mission and what their their the agency is to do? Like their purpose is to remove illegal aliens from the interior of the United States. Do you ultimately have a problem with that? [clears throat] >> [snorts] >> I understand the issue is with illegal immigrants who have come to this country, >> but there's lots of data showing their contribution to economy and there's a lot of, you know, cherry-picking with different events to try to make immigrants look bad, illegal or illegal. >> I'm just looking for solutions. I'm just looking for solutions. I don't think that it's a trend that ICE agents are going out there and shooting protesters. It's not a trend that's happening. Um, I definitely think uh with Renee Good that was a that was an awful thing that happened. I wish he was still alive, but at the end of the day, I do think that was a justified shooting in self-defense. Alex Prey, I think that's a little bit more messy. Um, and I wish that hadn't happened. I wish that he didn't decide to fight law enforcement. I wish that the ICE agents had better communication when disarming him. We don't know exactly what happened yet. But what I do know is that despite these incidents, ICE is still doing a good job and I support them being there and I fully support their mission in Minneapolis. >> Do you do know the stats that they're arresting, deporting mostly innocent people with no criminal record at all? They're just Yes, they have been here legally, but that's it. That's >> I'm okay with that. I voted for that. Yeah, I voted for people to be deported for the simple act of crossing to the border illegally. I want those people deported. I do not want them in our country. You know why? Because the women over there on those signs, they were killed by people who were in this country illegally who had deportation orders and they were ignored by ICE under the Joe Biden administration. They would all still be alive if they had just deported someone for the simple crime. It is a misdemeanor federally of being in the country illegally. They would all still be alive. I do support that. >> I just want to point out you said it's a misdemeanor. >> Yes. >> And people are getting finally tackled treated horribly for a misdemeanor. >> Yeah. So those people who are being treated horribly. They're usually being targeted by ICE for uh criminal actions and felonies and stuff like that. I'm talking about those women right there real quick. Look at their faces. They were killed by illegal aliens who had deportation orders, but they were caught by ICE and released under the Joe Biden administration. They would still be alive if we just deported people. Their only thing was committing the misdemeanor of crossing the border illegally. They are all worth it. Their lives were all worth deporting people who who who just crossed the border and did nothing else further. >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I appreciate you listening. If you still disagree, that's okay. But I hope that you might think about that a little bit more that um we don't know who's coming in. We don't know who's coming in and we're letting them in here. Sure, they didn't they haven't yet committed a felony or whatever, but when we don't know who they are, they are in our system. They have broken our immigration law. We have to hold those people accountable, send them back, and say, "Come in through the right way." Although to be fair, I don't really support legal immigration either. But you know, that's the whole thing. >> You don't support legal immigration? >> No. I think that we need to halt. We have way too many people here. We have brought in too many people. I think we need to halt it. Take a look at what's going on with our country. Deport massive amounts of people. Massive deportations need to happen. And then we can re-evaluate who we're letting in and from what countries. Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Yeah. I thank you so much for listening to me and having a dialogue. I really really appreciate your time. Anything else you want to you want to advocate for? You good? >> Um I I really appreciate how how um you know, you presented yourself and you didn't you didn't you weren't attacking or anything. You're you're presenting information. I think that's very nice. >> Thank you. >> You know, you're out here talking as opposed to you know >> doing all that. So >> yeah, I appreciate it. >> It's nice to talk. >> It is nice to talk, isn't it? I we may disagree. >> I do feel, >> you know, >> yeah, uh entering illegally is bad, but I feel like that's it's there's a little more nuance >> and like more compassion for like >> it's it's it's a it's a whole system. It's not just like black or white. Yeah. >> You know, yes, people are coming in illegally, but it's why and you know, should we should we be treating them harshly? Um should we help them come in, you know, legally? It's a whole thing. So, >> yeah. No, definitely see. It's hard to see like people being >> detained with their children. It's very hard to see that. But I don't blame ICE for that. I blame their parents who brought them here >> knowing that they they broke a crime and they brought their children and involved them in the crime. And I think it's actually really graceful and kind for ICE to keep them together and let the child be with them in a detention center um or or an immigration holding center instead of separating them. So, I'm I'm it's the parents fault that parent put them in that position. These are the consequences of their actions in my opinion. And it's uh I'm really grateful that the families can at least stay together and kids can be with their their parents as they're going through there. Um cuz it would be really awful if we were deporting parents and then keeping their children in the United States. [laughter] >> Yes. Well, I I assume ICE would consider all of them legal. So, >> the children Yes. >> If they were born here, they are. Yes. And so, they don't have to be deported. they can stay, but then they'll be put in the system. And so ICE says, "Hey, we're going to just send you home. You're actually not being charged with anything. You're in the country illegally. We're just going to send you home with your family and your child. If you want to come back legally, you can." >> It doesn't even bar them from coming illegally. The first time, the second time, it is a federal criminal charge. But >> I really appreciate you taking the time to talk. Um, I love your birthday hat and have fun with your little game. I hope I didn't interrupt it.