Fact Check: Lockheed Martin Skunk Works and UFO Legacy Programs - Claims Analysis

[Music] The skunk works is a way of doing business quick, quiet, and efficient.

It's not just a place. >> It's really about the mentality about how we attack problems and come up with

solutions. >> Skunk Works really since its beginning has stood for innovation. It stood for

products that uh were beyond their time that were really uh futuristic. It's the secret sauce of Loheed Martin. It's what

brings forth the innovations that are going to protect our customers into the future.

>> Who are the contractors that have this material, the corporations? >> Well, one of them is Lockheed. And I'll

tell you, I mean, you know, I'm not saying Loheed's the bad guys. They're doing what they were asked to do. They

have lied about this because that's what they're supposed to do. But Lockheed would be one. There's a list I can give

you. Congressman, um, some of the big ones, the the usual suspects. Imagine you're like a hot engineer. Hot

engineer. No, hot shot engineer. You might be hot, too. I don't know. But that you know, you're fresh out of grad

school. Maybe you're like the best PhD electrical engineer. You want to do cool. You want to publish an itle E. You

want to like, you know, climb the ladder corporately, you know, and that kind of thing.

A Locky Martin executive comes to you. Yeah, dude. uh you're gonna I can read into something really crazy, but you're

never going to publish papers on it. You're never going to be able to tell people what you worked on, and it's

probably not the most career enhancing. But if you want to work on something cool, but I can't tell you because it's

unagnowledged until you sign this piece of paper non-disclosure agreement. Um uh uh you know, sorry, but here's the

raw deal. There is a place where we imagine the impossible,

where the powers of machine and nature become one. And being a maverick

is in our DNA. We are Loheed Martin's skunk works. This is where we break beyond the

boundaries. When diving into the subject of UFO crash retrievals and reverse engineering

efforts, I am willing to bet one of the first names you associate with joint US government and private industry UFO

exploitation efforts is the largest defense contractor in the entire world. Loheed Martin and their infamous

advanced development projects department responsible for highly classified research development test and evaluation

programs also known as skunk works locked more than any other contractor or private/ semi-private organization in

history and sometimes even more than the United States Department of Defense itself has become intimately entwined

with UFO legacy programs. highly classified, deepixed carve out advanced research development, test and

evaluation programs buried under complex security protocols and waved unagnowledged special access programs

existing since at least 1947 focused on the recovery, exploitation, and adaption of technologies of unknown origin.

For decades, Loheed Martin and its famed skunk works have been labeled as the tip of the spear, leading US defense

contractor efforts to retrieve, store, and adapt nonhuman technologies for human control.

Lockheed has been the centerpiece for numerous UFO whistleblower claims, anti-gravity/exotic

propulsion paper trails, deep underground military bases, aka subterranean facility discussion, and

bizarre traceable attempts to transfer nonhuman materials out of the corporation.

These discussions are incredibly vast and poignant and without even scratching the surface range from Air Force Master

Sergeant Edgar Fuché's accusations that Loheed operated as a prime contractor to the triangular alien reproduction

vehicle TR3B. Ross Colart's recent comments, the quote unquote tic tac from the 2004 famed

Nimmits encounter originated from the Lockheed skunk works. Decades of worthy analysis, Lockheed's Helenale radar

cross-section facility houses a subterranean facility dedicated to the study and housing of recovered UFOs and

so so much more. Bizarrely, Lockheed sits in the spotlight of UFO legacy program

accusations. more so than any other contractor, federally funded research and development center or university

affiliated research center I have ever discussed. Of course, operating as the largest defense contractor in the world

brings notoriety, especially surrounding whispers of off-world technology reverse engineering. Yet still discussions of

Loheed and UFOs dwarfs similar discussion around the MITER Corporation Northrup Grumman SIC/LOS

Battel Memorial Institute and DOE sponsored FFRDC's such as Sandia and Los Alamos National Labs.

Lockheed's prominence in the discussion of UFO programs is so common place. Even David Grush has mentioned Lockheed by

name in his tremendous Joe Rogan podcast appearance whilst keeping some of the other names mentioned above in the

shadows. Lockheed skunk works themselves have given the civilian world cheeky winks

over the years alluding to possessing knowledge on nonhuman life. My kids actually ask the same question.

And whenever I go on to business trips, I come home, they ask me, "How are the aliens? Did I see the aliens?" Things

like that. So yeah, do the aliens exist? That's a question for another time. Uh but in terms of what we work on, yes, we

do work on classified projects. Uh the aliens don't really enter into that. >> And every now and then, Loheed will even

give unclassed nods towards absolutely mind-boggling capabilities the contractor has achieved in advanced

aeronautics. You know, right now our airplane designs are very reductionist. We have fuel over

here. We have the cockpit. We have the engine. They're all separate parts. What if we could integrate those parts

together in a holistic manner? Can we do things like embed the carbon nano tubes to make conductive uh

structure so that information doesn't flow through a wire next to a structure but literally flows through the

structure. will be able to grow or make a structure that say is the skin of an aircraft that inside of that is also

contained the sensors or the energy storage or many different multiple functions.

>> New materials that are on the uh lab bench right now, they can literally change shape on command. They can become

almost a muscular material. We could have an airplane that optimizes its shape for the different flight

conditions it's in. >> Now, for longtime viewers of my channel, I have devoted a video to Lockheed

before. However, in my opinion, this video is too short, too unfocused, and underdeveloped.

So during today's investigation, we will not look to retread already covered ground, but instead integrate my

previous work and analysis on Loheed Martin in all of my prior projects into new avenues, theories, and hypotheses,

specifically breaking new ground on investigating Loheed Martin's involvement with UFO legacy program

operations, as well as diving into Loheed's history and corporate structure that exists as a

complex web perfectly structured to house highly classified carveout exotic projects.

So just how deeply involved is Loheed Martin in UFO legacy program operations? How does Loheed's role in clandestine

carveout R&D focused on technologies of unknown origin differ or compare to similar entities such as MITER and

Northrup Grumman? And what can we learn from a 2010's attempt by Lockheed to actually divest itself from recovered

UFO materials through a PAP or prospective special access program? Well, join me today as we try and find

out [Music] While we attempt to neatly package my

previous work on Lockheed as well as tread new ground, exploring new avenues and identifying possible highlevel

locked UFO legacy program personnel. Let's take a step back and actually analyze the corporate history and

structure of Lockheed to identify how and why the largest defense contractor in the world is to use a figure of

speech up to its eyeballs in UFO technology and recovered hardware. As I just mentioned, Loheed Martin is

the largest defense contractor in the entire world, earning $64.65 $65 billion in revenue in 2024 alone, outpacing its

closest competitor, Rathon, by over $20 billion. And a bit of an interesting side note

here, according to Bloomberg top 10 defense contractors, nine out of the 10 listed entities I have directly accused

of operating UFO legacy programs. Rathon, Northrup Grumman, General Dynamics, Boeing, L3 Harris

Technologies, Lados, Booze Allen, Hamilton, and Amentum. Lockheed's name is thrown around with

such colossal contracts earned, money gained or profits realized. At least I have become somewhat desensitized to the

unfathomable amounts of money that passes through locked for federal contracts.

In fact, as recently as July 2025, Breaking Defense published an article titled, quote, Lockheed records 1.6

billion in losses, most likely to continued strife on classified arrow program, end quote, detailing losses of

$950 million in the second quarter of 2025 on the quote classified fixedpric aeronautics program end quote.

Lockheed stated in a news release regarding this loss. Quote, "This is a highly classified program that can only

be described as a game-changing capability for our joint US and international customers and therefore it

is critical that it be successfully fielded. With our enhanced oversight of this program and rapid incorporation of

lessons learned, we expect to continue to reduce risk over the next few years as we move through key milestones of

this very advanced system." end quote. In normal words here, Loheed has a really good reason for losing almost a

billion dollars. And I am absolutely not connecting the second quarter 2025 billion loss to UFO

legacy program operations. Indeed, I personally believe this likely has more to do with Lockheed losing out on the

ENGAD or next generation air dominance fighter contracts given to Boeing. Nevertheless, this article shows a

billion dollars is nothing to Loheed Martin. However, discussion of money is a good

opportunity to briefly discuss funding avenues for UFO legacy programs. In 2023, David Grush discussed

misappropriation of funds and IRAD being utilized as a method to fund UFO legacy program operations.

>> Well, so that how does I mean, I don't want to cut you off, but how does a program like that get funded?

I will give you generalities. I can get very specific in a close session. Uh but a mis misappropriation of funds and uh

does that mean does that mean that there is money in the budget that is said to go to a program but it doesn't and it

goes to something else? >> Yes, I have specific knowledge of that. Yep.

>> Do you think US corporations are over overcharging for certain tech they're selling to the US government and that

additional money is going to programs? >> Correct. through something called IRAD. Regarding misappropriation of funds, I

have previously spoken of instances in which Grumman Aerospace, the precursor of Northrup Grumman, egregiously

overcharged the US Navy for everything from socket wrenches to ashtrays and connected these misappropriation of

funds to UFO legacy programs along with various other contractors overcharging the US Navy for near

billions of excess profits for submarine creation. But what is IRAD? mentioned by David

Grush prior. IRAD is a technical research and development effort by industry that is not sponsored by or

required in the performance of a contract. Such projects consist within basic R&D

applied R&D development and system and other concept formulation studies. quote, "Contractors can recover a

portion of their IRAD costs by including them as an allowable indirect expense on government contracts to the extent that

those costs are allocable and reasonable. In addition, DoD permits major defense contractors to include

allowable IRA costs as indirect expenses on defense contracts to the extent that the IRA activities are potentially of

interest to DoD." End quote. Basically, IRAD consists of R&D activities conducted by private

contractors that have potential interest to the DoD, aka Lockheed gets to do what they want and build a DoD for it. In the

realm of UFO legacy program operations, this allows Lockheed to freely pursue classified operations without

traditional DoD oversight and build the DoD for such work. And notice how I said traditional channels. I strongly believe

though Lockheed may hide UFO funds through IRAD, contractors still operate such work under DoD special access

programs or intelligence community controlled access programs under strict oversightes of elements of DoD IC and

R&D masters federally funded research and development centers. In 2021 alone, Loheed Martin spent $1.5

billion on IRAD. Lockheed has historically pursued IRAD within its advanced development programs,

infamously named the skunk works. But these figures are puny, according to former assistant secretary of housing

and urban development Katherine Austin Fitz and her legendary 2004 paper, The Black Budget of the United States.

Throughout the 21st century, Fitz and her Solari report has identified dozens and dozens of trillions of dollars spent

on the US black budget. Specifically, Fitz has outlined 21 trillion possible dollars in unauthorized spending in the

departments of defense and housing and urban development from 1995 to 2015. Much of this money on UFO related quote

unquote clandestine military R&D. In the paper, Fitz writes, quote, "Large proportion of the nation's wealth is

being illegally diverted into secret, unaccountable channels." End quote. While at the Department of Housing and

Urban Development, Fitz came across evidence it/accounting systems providers were responsible for the obuscation of

funds and omitting data where missing DoD funds were directed. These included IBM, Dinorp and SIC, Loheed Martin and

Loheed Martin information systems which would later merge with LOS in 2015. Now I do know what you're probably

thinking. We are already getting way too into Loheed Martin's possible UFO program funding mechanisms. And trust me

when I say there is quite a bit more corporate structure here. But let's now take a step back and analyze the entire

history of Lockheed. Today, Loheed Martin exists as the premier defense contractor in the entire

world. And as of 2023, Loheed, Rathon, General Dynamics, North of Grumman, and Boeing, the big five US industrial-based

contractors, operate as prime contractors on 74% of the US Department of Defense's major

defense acquisition programs. And as of 2024, Lockheed's total market capitalization exceeded

136.39 billion. and Lockheed comprised of over 122,000

employees. Lockheed really is the cornerstone American defense and aerospace

manufacturer specializing in designing, developing and manufacturing advanced aerospace and defense systems critical

to the entire life cycle of such systems from concepting to RDTn to application. Loheed operates in four primary

divisions. Loheed Martin Aeronautics, which houses the skunk works we will touch on soon, comprising roughly 39% of

total company revenue. Aeronautics has built several of the US's most reliable and advanced modern-day aircraft,

including the F-35 Lightning 2 strike fighter, the C130 Hercules, the F-16 Falcon, and the F-22 Raptor. The

engineering capabilities of this division is absolutely mind-numbing. Lockheed's second major division is the

missile and fire control division which accounts for roughly 18% of revenue. Missiles and fire control has

constructed numerous SAM or surfaceto-air missile systems, precision strike missiles, AGM 114 Hellfire

missiles and much more while also providing support services for US special forces.

Lockheed's third division rotary and mission systems which accounts for roughly 24% of revenue includes numerous

Sakorski helicopters such as the UH60 Blackhawk and CH53 Super Stallion while also this division constructs numerous

maritime platform such as the Aegis combat system, latoral combat ships and freedomclass latoral combat ships.

And Lockheed's last division, space, accounts for roughly 18% of revenue and has achieved feats such as the Trident 2

ballistic missile, Orion spacecraft, and hypersonic weapons platforms. The Loheed Martin we all know and love

today, the Loheed that sees 73% of its revenue come from US government contracts, arose from a 15 March 1995

merger of the Loheed Corporation with Martin Marietta. The 1990s saw a drastic consolidation

period between US defense contractors. Aerospace and defense prime contractors shrank from 51 in total to only five.

Today, this trend continues due to quote vertical and horizontal integrations and the entry of private equity firms

performing roll-ups end quote. And I have before analyzed Northrup's acquisitions of corporations such as TRW

and Teladine Ryan during this period and related those transactions to consolidating UFO legacy program

operations. So let's do the same here for Lockheed. One half of our subject today, the

Lockheed Corporation was founded in 1926 and quickly rose to prominence at the beginning of World War II with

construction of the US Army Air Force workhorse, the P38 Lightning. In 1943, the Loheed Corporation founded

the now infamous Skunkworks, initially housed at Lockheed's Burbank, California plant, which Jeremy Corbel just spoke

about. and skunk works is what I and many UFO researchers wager is the critical component of locked

hyperfocused on UFO legacy program operations. Skunkworks aka advanced development

programs was responsible for the locked corporation's most highly classified R&D projects and exotic aircraft platforms

and performs the same operations for Loheed Martin. Today, Skunkworks now primarily resides at Air

Force Plant 42, a location I have accused on several occasions as both participating in UFO Legacy Program

operations, specifically RDT&E, of alien reproduction vehicles, as well as housing access to a complex network of

deep underground military bases in the Antelopee Valley, California. I have theorized this network in

question operates largely under Edwards Air Force Base in China Lake and connects to Lockheed's infamous Helenale

radar cross-section range. More on that later. The Lockheed Skunk Works stands apart

from classified divisions of rival aerospace companies such as Northrup's Advanced Technology Development Center

and Boeing Phantom Works due to the incredible accomplishments of Skunkworks.

The classified projects division began with construction of the P-38 in 1939 and also developed world famous aircraft

such as the U2, SR71 Blackbird, F-17 Nighthawk, F-22 Raptor, and F-35 Lightning 2. More modern-day, I believe

Skunkworks has served as an integral piece of developing alien reproduction vehicles such as the Flux Liner TR3B.

And if Ross Colart is correct, a human-derived tic tac. Again, more on that later.

>> How do you begin to measure the infinite reaches of space? For tomorrowminded engineers and other professionals, the

tools of measurement are knowledge, intellect, imagination, and an infinite curiosity. Martin Marietta wants

professionals of that caliber, the kind that helped us fulfill our major role with the Viking lander on the planet

Mars, who will help us now in vital projects of exploration and communication, solar energy,

spacecraft and launch systems to probe the mysteries of the farthest stars. And here on this imperfect Earth,

defense systems such as the MX missile to protect the very freedoms that enable us to be tomorrow-minded.

Martin Marietta Aerospace, a whole new world of careers on Earth and beyond. But let's shift focus to the Martin

Marietta Company, which was founded in 1961 with a heavy focus on tremendous success in missile and space systems.

Founder Glenn L. Martin began securing contracts with the Air Force in 1955 to build ICBMs

or intercontinental ballistic missiles. Martin Marietta built a swath of advanced rockets and missiles, including

the Titan rocket family, Persing Missile Family, Sprint Missile, and incredibly cool FGM 148 Javelins.

Martin Marietta also pioneered several vehicles for the US space race, the Mellan spacecraft, Mars polar lander,

and Vikings 1 and two. Prior to its merger with Loheed in 1955, Martin Marietta made a series of acquisitions

in 93 that I believe saw the aerospace corporation become entwined with the UFO portfolio if it wasn't already. For

example, in 1993, Martin Marietta acquired GE or General Electric Aerospace.

General Electric, on the other hand, has for decades been implicated in UFO programs. Interestingly, we can look to

the work of the legendary Leonard Stringfield and his magnum opus UFO crash retrieval status reports 1-7 where

we can read the secondhand report of one Mrs. Smith. Smith claimed her father under pseudonym Y served in World War II

and then worked as a milright for General Electric. Y was apparently sent to Wright

Patterson Air Force Base for special work. Here, Wy was taken to an underground installation where he worked

on what appeared to be a recovered extraterrestrial craft. In a nearby quote unquote morg, biologics were

stored that were described as short humanoids that were small with large heads and clammy skin similar to a

reptile. I do believe I have tracked down this now deceased engineer who retired in

1982 and will be reaching out to his family to respectfully learn more. In 1993, Martin Marietta also acquired

General Dynamics Space Systems Division. General Dynamics, of course, is another corporation implicated in UFO Legacy

Programs, and one day I would also like to make a video about them. And lastly, and most important here in my opinion,

in 1993, Martin Marietta acquired management contracts for Sandia National Laboratories.

If you have watched even a single video of mine, you will know Sandia is a usual tricky customer of this channel.

I do however want to hold off speaking on Sandia for just a few minutes and talk about Sandia postmer merger with

Loheed and Martin Marietta. And prior to their merger, both Lockheed and Martin Marietta demonstrated a keen

interest in anti-gravity and electrogravidic aka an exploration of the relationship between gravity and

electromagnetism research. Take Thomas Townsen Brown for example and his proposed project Winterhaven to create

flying discs for the US military that could travel in excess of 1,800 mph.

I will not even try to do justice on T. Townsen Brown. To learn more here, I highly, and I mean highly suggest

watching Jesse Michael's documentary, which is one of the best produced pieces in the UFO space I have ever seen.

In 1956, a special weapons study unit of Aviation Studies International Limited delivered an examination of

electrogravidic systems to Wright Patterson Air Force Base, referring to T. Townson Brown's affforementioned

project Winter Haven. The report stated the Glennel Martin company was confident gravity control could be achieved in

sizable scales within years and General Electric, Bell Labs, Sperry Rand, Boeing, and the Loheed Corporation were

all working on anti-gravity rigs. There are compelling arguments anti-gravity technology was sequestered

to the world of blackbudget programs around 1955 and 1956. Another topic for another day, but

intriguing both Martin Marietta and the Locky Corporation could have been integral pieces here.

Let's return now to the modern day. And as I mentioned earlier, Loheed Martin is a DIIB or defense industrial base

contractor part of the network of organizations of facilities and resources that provides

the US government particularly the department of defense with defense related materials, products and

services. The defense industrial base in my opinion allows us a perfect snapshot to

understand the very skeletal structure of UFO legacy program operations. Quote, "DIib encompasses a wide variety of

entities, including commercial firms operated on a for-profit basis, notfor-profit research centers in

university laboratories and government-owned industrial facilities. It provides everything from large

technologically sophisticated weapon systems in highly specialized operational support to general

commercial products and routine services. By supplying and equipping the armed services, the DIIB enables the

United States to execute national strategy and develop, maintain, and project military power. End quote.

Lockheed exists as a cornerstone entity of the commercial sector of the defense industrial base alongside FFRDC's and

UARCs DoD laboratories and DoD ranges and test facilities aka MRTFBS or major range and test facility bases.

Let's go ahead and break down each one of these further starting with Lockheed in the commercial sector. Recently in my

project on sic I discussed how contractors such as sic and locked Martin are eligible contractors under

the DoD's corporate portfolio program. This corporate portfolio program gives defense industrial-based contractors

like sic and loheed Martin access to DoD executives, scientists and management with broad access to special access

program portfolios. The corporate portfolio program framework was established in 2020 under

then under secretary of defense for acquisition and sustainment Ellen M. Lord and in an almost comical sequence

of events Lord would join SEIC's advisory board in July of 2021. And as I say in every single one of my

projects, I believe core components of the DIB, specifically federally funded research and development centers,

FFRDC's, and university affiliated research centers, UARKs, are the missing critical

piece to any discussion of UFO legacy program operations. Have you ever flown in a jet, used GPS,

taken shelter from severe weather, undergone cancer treatment, or marveled at the Mars Rover? You probably didn't

know it, but you were benefiting from the ideas and achievements of FFRDC's. FFRDC stands for Federally Funded

Research and Development Center. FFRDC's are independent, notfor-profit organizations. They support our nation

with a unique combination of technical expertise and unbiased advice. Compared to the government and industry, FFRDC's

are small in size, but they have had enduring impact. They develop groundbreaking technologies, perform

in-depth analyses, and help the government make cost-effective choices. The first FFRDC's began in the 1940s

following World War II. Back then, the government agencies needed to build a critical mass of science and technology

knowledge unavailable within their own ranks or the commercial sector. Those first FFRDC's focus largely on

national security. FFRDC's and UWARCS are really two sides of the same coin. Notfor-profit private sector

organizations that are established and funded to meet special long-term engineering, research, development, or

other analytic needs that cannot be met as effectively by government or other private sector resources.

FFRDC's specifically consist of workshops or laboratories to bring extremely specialized unrivaled RDT&E to

defense industrial-based programs. In my research, I exhaustively state FFRDC's are the missing link in United

States DoD/IC and defense contractor UFO legacy programs. Over the course of my work, I

have directly accused numerous FFRDC's as operating as program managers for UFO legacy programs,

serving as subject matter experts and R&D aces for UFO programs, allowing the DoD/IC to retain a firm grasp over

technologies and keep sensitive program information inhouse. only delegating information, materials or access to

defense contractors on a strict need to- know basis. FFRDC's in question here I have spoken

about prior include the MITER Corporation, Aerospace Corporation, Rand Corporation, Sandia National Labs, the

Center for Naval Analyses, Los Alamos National Labs, Lawrence Liverour National Labs, the National Biodense

Analysis and Countermeasures Center managed by Battel, National Security Engineering Center, Oak Ridge National

Labs, and many more. Now you may have noticed multiple listings above ending in labs. This is because numerous

FFRDC's including Sandia, Lawrence, Liverour, Los Alamos, Oakidge, and more are sponsored by the Department of

Energy. This allows such laboratories and sites, if operating technologies of unknown

origin exploitation programs, which I highly suspect they are, to enjoy freedoms only entities attached to the

Department of Energy can enjoy. These include harnessing DOE NEST or nuclear emergency support teams and DOE SRT or

special response teams that I actually believe were active on ground units in the cases of Jonathan Wagant and Rodri

Castle respectively. This also means any classified programs at the sites can rest upon the 1954

atomic energy agreement which has been identified in the UAPDA legislation as acting as a gatekeeping structure for

myriad UFO materials, knowledge, artifacts, etc. Sequestering such into the deepest bowels of United States

classification as quote transclassified foreign nuclear information end quote. Now, let's take a pause here because I

do want to talk a little bit about both Sandia and Oak Ridge FFRDC's here. I have talked about Sandia National Labs

earlier in this project as well as numerous other projects as housing recovered UFO craft in participating in

material exploitation projects. I will not retread this research now, but please feel free to explore any of

these projects on screen now. But Oakidge, well, Oakidge is very interesting. Oakidge is an FFRDC site

where disgraced former head of Arrow Shan Kirkpatrick ran to in December 2023, operating as chief technology

officer for defense and intelligence programs. >> It almost looks like Arrow operated as a

counter intelligence operation to get people to come in, tell their stories, and then discredit all of them. I I I

can't imagine that any whistleblower or witness will ever go to Arrow again because of what happened under the first

director who's now long gone but still seems to act as the spokesperson for that organization.

>> And I would say I would say Madam Chair, maybe at some point we need to really dig deep into Arrow. And I would

encourage us >> Oh, I'd be happy to send maybe a subpoena to Mr. Kilpatrick.

>> Mr. Now, the following here is conjecture. I cannot back this up with any researcher

data. However, I must say this. I have spoken to sources intimately familiar with Oak Ridge that have informed me

that two recovered nonhuman saucers reside in an underground installation below Oak Ridge.

These sources claim Oak Ridge is integral to the study and exploitation of technologies, specifically vehicles

of unknown origin, and that Oak Ridge is a key piece of the defense industrial base that operates in the construction,

design, and possible testing of alien reproduction vehicles. And again, guys, I cannot back up these statements, but

figured a little bomb like this would be fun to discuss. I mentioned Sandia and Oak Ridge because

of their intimate ties with Lockheed. >> Oak Ridge is now managed by an LLC under Battel Memorial Institute. If you don't

know Battel, watch my video on them and Dougway Proving Ground. Oakidge was previously managed, however, by Loheed

Martin Energy Research Corp., a subsidiary of Loheed Martin focused on energy R&D.

And as of 1 May 2017, Sandia National Labs acquired a new administrator, National Technology and Engineering

Solutions of Sandia LLC, a subsidiary of Honeywell International, Inc. Honeywell, of course, received assets and divisions

from Sperry Rand that went defunct in 1986. Sperry Rand was mentioned alongside Bell

Labs as a contractor working on adapting UFO technologies for human use by Colonel Philip J. Corso of the US Army

Foreign Technology Division. Several other companies besides Honeywell received assets and divisions from

Sperry Rand. These included Rathon, Northrup Grumman, and Loheed Martin. But of note here, prior to a Honeywell

subsidiary, Sandia was administrated by the Sandia Corporation, a subsidiary of Loheed Martin.

From 1993 to 2017, Martin Marietta/Locky Martin managed Sandia National Labs, which is one of the most critical sites

in all of my own personal research. After all, Air Force Master Sergeant Edgar Fuche would state the reverse

engineered triangular alien reproduction vehicle TR3B that began prototyping in the 1970s up to its operational flights

in 1994 whose program was contracted by Lockheed, Boeing, Northrup, and Teladine

Ryan and managed by the NRO, NSA and CIA saw its propulsion systems reverse engineered from nonhuman craft by Sandia

National Labs in Lawrence Liverour National Labs. Quite a few interesting connections here

to make from Fuchcher's statements. Fuchcher stated Lockheed was a critical contractor on TR3B and Sandia was part

responsible for reverse engineering TR3B's propulsion devices. It is interesting then that Martin Marietta

took control of Sandia National Labs in 1993. Solely one year after in 1994, TR3B

allegedly left the prototyping stage into operational stages. And solely one year after that in 1995, Locky

Corporation and Martin Marriott emerged. But there are even more wild parallels to draw here, such as Fuchet stating

TR3B were often operated out of Edwards Air Force Base by ACE test pilots of the Edwards 412 test wing AFTC or Air Force

Flight Test Center. These statements by Fuche relate closely to one witness I hold in extremely high regard. And if

you've watched my channel before, you will know what I'm going to say. Ed. Ed retired as an Air Force Lieutenant

Colonel who graduated test pilot school at the affforementioned AFTC and operated an electronics warfare

group out of Edward's 412 test group. Ed claimed to serve as a strategic debriefer for ARV pilots and ARV

scientists and would also claim when he was briefed into the existence of this ARV testing program that existed between

Edwards Air Force Base, Area 51 Groom Lake and Area 51 S4 sometime between 1998 and 2002. Boeing and Lockheed were

the two most critical contractors on this program. There exists an utterly fascinating

network to explore here. seen as I also wager this ARV program that's housed at Edwards, Area 51 and S4 that's operated

largely by the 412th Test Wing, Loheed Martin, and perhaps various naval departments and installations

is the exact same program that was operating the enormous logicdeeing triangle and black ops team US Marine

Corps Sergeant Rodrik Castle encountered between the 2nd and 14th March 1997 during the Hunter Warrior advanced

warfighting experience. experiment just 45 mi southeast of the Edwards R2508 restricted airspace.

You know, perhaps one day I will make a whole video detailing my hypothesis on the extensive alien reproduction vehicle

theory residing in the American Southwest that involves numerous MRTFBs, FFRDC's, contractors, DOMS, Air Force

units, Navy units, and more. And this bridges us perfectly into discussing Lockheed's involvement with

another pillarstone of the defense industrial base. MRTFBS or major range and test facility bases.

23 such critical core DoD RDT&E infrastructure sites exist that span millions of acres in the continental

United States. Eight Army sites including the West Desert Test Center and Yuma Test Center. Six Navy sites

including Nawad Pax River and China Lake, seven Air Force sites including Edwards 412 Test Wing and the Nevada

Test and Training Range and Utah Test and Training Range and two Defense Agency sites including sites at Fort

Wuka, Arizona in Fort Me, Maryland. The American War fighter, the heart of the best trained and equipped military

force ever known. Our commitment to these brave men and women through the Department of Defense acquisition

process provides superior combat capability to dominate the battle space. The major range and test facility base

or MRTFB is the core set of DoD test and evaluation installations, facilities, and ranges, providing worldclass

capabilities. It's an essential national asset that guarantees our war fighters can trust the systems they need to

prevail anytime, anywhere. It is safe to assume Lohei Martin performs advanced classified RDT&n work

at almost if not every single MRTFB and that the overwhelming majority of this work is just on standard prosaic

defense research and development programs. However, I do also believe that MRTFBs

serve as critical test and evaluation sites for UFO legacy program operations, ranging from storing recovered craft to

operating ARV vehicles. Let's briefly analyze Lockheed's involvement with a handful of select

MRTFBs I have covered in the past to see how critical Loheed really is with these critical cores.

As just mentioned, witness Ed claimed Lohei Martin and Boeing were paramount contractors to a joint ARV testing

program out of Edwards Air Force Base and facilities surrounding Area 51 Groom Lake. Lockheed performs critical work

between Edwards 412 Test Pilot School and Air Force Plant 42, both of which are located in and around the Antelopee

Valley, California. Loheed Martin, specifically Skunk Works, is one of three facilities alongside Boeing and

Northrup Grumman that has access to plant 42's unique government operated airfield complex that sees collaboration

with pilots from the Edwards AFTC. And interesting to note as well, Air Force Plant 42 is one of four Air Force

plants situated throughout the United States. That's managed by the acquisition, environmental, and

industrial facilities division at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. If you are new to this channel, I'm sure you likely

already associate Wright Patterson Air Force Base with recovered UFOs. And before we move on, we may as well

give a quick overview of my previous investigations on Air Force Plant 42. I have accused plant 42 as operating as an

integral piece to American Southwest UFO RDT&E. Nestled within the Antelopee Valley near

Edwards Air Force Base, the former Norton Air Force Base, Lockheed and Northrup's radar cross-section ranges

and major areas of operations for the locked skunk works and its lesserknown competitors Boeing Phantom Works and

Northrup's advanced technology development center. I strongly believe Plant 42 and its big three contractors

are a worthy pursuit to study UFO legacy program operations. Indeed, Plant 42 and Norton Air Force

Base have become critical pieces of the firstirhand testimony of Brad S. and the secondhand testimony of Mark McKandal

regarding the Flux Liner alien reproduction vehicles. Viewers of my channel know that I hold this case in

extremely high regard. Amidst the numerous death threats from Brad, there is quite a tremendous amount of valuable

data to chew on with the Flux Liner encounter. I will not waste my time milling over the details here, but

recall variances in testimony regarding the firsthand witness Brad S. informing Aviation Week in Space Technology senior

editor Bill Scott that the three flux liner flying saucers were shown in a special classified section of the now

defunct Norton Air Force Base in 1988. And Mark McCandal stated shortly before his death in 2021, Brad and other

high-value targets were actually flown from Norton to plant 42 to be shown the flux liner ARVs.

These people were all um in this group of u dignitaries, both military and civilian, that got on a um military

version of the Boeing 727 and they flew from Norton Air Force Base up to Air Force Plan 42

uh which is um uh in Palmdale. Um a lot of people just consider it the Palmdale airport. It was actually a facility that

was built from what I understand by Lockheed back in the 1960s and the hanger that is now serving as a skunk

works hanger was the original construction site for the L1011 Lockheed Strike Tristar airliner.

>> Regarding this case, I am still trying to resolve this piece of the puzzle. I have come to the conclusion Brad S was

likely far more involved in the Flux Liner story. In my opinion, Brad S. likely worked on design or various

systems of the craft and leaked details to his good friend Mark McCandish for unknown reasons. If Brad S doesn't make

good on his death threats, I really will try to get to the bottom of this case. But let's move on with Loheed's

interactions with elements of DIIB. Now, specifically MRTFBs I've accused of involvement in UFO legacy program

operations. And I would here like to narrow in on the Nevada Test and Training Range,

formerly known as the 98th Range Wing. Another MRTFB Ed claimed was involved in Joint Air Force, American Southwest, and

Lockheed ARV programs. The mission of NTR is to provide the US war fighter a quote flexible, realistic

and multi-dimensional battle space to conduct testing tactics development and advanced training in support of US

national interests end quote and another quote. As a major range test and facility base activity, the NTR supports

the Department of Defense's advanced composite force training, tactics development, and electronic combat

testing, as well as DoD and the Department of Energy Testing, research, and development. The NTR hosts numerous

red flag and US Air Force Weapon School exercises each year, as well as various test and tactics development missions."

End quotes. NTR itself houses numerous air force bases and DoD facilities including acknowledged sites such as

Nellis Air Force Base, Area 51 Groom Lake, operated by a detachment of the Edwards 412th Test Wing MRTFB and the

Tonapa test range. Numerous alleged sites are said to reside on the NTR that deal with UFO

programs such as S4 near Papoose Lake in myriad smaller bases connected to a network of deep underground military

bases that serve to train clandestine UFO crash retrieval teams. And I do hope I can explore this point further another

time. Of course, Locky does tremendously important work on the NTR, such as participating in the yearly red flag

advanced aerial combat training exercises hosted at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada, where Lockheed has

historically worked with DoD and IC agencies such as the NGA to maximize US warf fighter potential.

But believe it or not, I want to zoom in on the NTR, not S4 Area 51 Groom Lake or any similar site, but to the Tonipa test

range. In 1957, Sandia Corporation established Tonapa test range in Nevada as a place

for the Atomic Energy Commission to test ballistics and non-nuclear features of atomic weapons. 60 years and many

upgrades later, the range has a similar primary mission. I would now like to take the time to publicly accuse Air

Force and Department of Energy Tonap test range, also sometimes known as Area 52. And yeah, I know not Dougway proving

ground in this instance. As an RDT&n site that operates UFO crash retrieval and material exploitation programs and

at least prior to 2017, Tonipa and its operations were run by Loheed Martin. Let me explain. Tonipa test range like

Area 51 Groom Lake is operated by a detachment of the Edwards 412th test wing. However, due to the classified

nature of Tonipa's operations, personnel, commanders, etc. are classified.

Tonipa appears as a mini Area 51, featuring a primary airfield, runway, and numerous hangers with about four

minor quote unquote abandoned airfields existing on the Tonapa range. Area 52 here resides on the highly

restricted and secretive northern area of the NTR, part of the Great Basin Desert that lies

mostly within the Cactus Flat Valley. The population near Tonipa is incredibly sparse with the nearby town of the same

name housing only 1,938 people as of 2023. Officially, quote, Tonipa is the test

range of choice for all national security missions. Tonipa test range TTR provides research and development test

support for the Department of Energy's weapons programs. The range also offers a unique test environment for use by

other government agencies and their contractors. End quote. And yeah, that's right. Tonipa exists as a classified

restricted military installation of the DoD and Department of Energy which began in 1957 as a DOE weapons

program range managed by Sandia National Laboratories. Now remember, we just talked about

Sandia, but in case you forgot, I urge you to remember that this federally funded research and development center

is an integral piece of my channel that I speak about ranging all the way from discussing UFO retrieval operations with

the interplanetary phenomenon unit in 1947 to involvement in operating on the TR3B ARV from the 1970s onward. And

remember that Sandia was up to 2017 administrated by the Sandia Corporation, a subsidiary of Loheed Martin.

This means from 1993 when Martin Marietta acquired contract management for Sandia National Labs all the way up

until 2017, Loheed Martin managed this extremely sensitive range focused on Department of Energy weapons testing

occupied by the Edwards 412 test wing MRTFB. In fact, beginning in 2007, Lockheed

radio telemetry data at the Tonipa test range was detected between the TTR.7 mi west from the south end of the runway

to be specific and 1011 Lockheed Way, building 601 in Palmdale, California. Seeing as Loheed Martin Aeronautics

Corporation residing in Palmdale, California in the Antelopee Valley is home to the skunk works advanced

development division. I think it is quite safe to say whatever Loheed was doing at Tonipa required Lockheed's

sharpest engineers operating in the classified deepixed sap world. Indeed, Lockheed's F-17 Nighthawk, designed out

of skunk works, initially operated and tested in secret at Tonipa for almost a decade. But let's really dive in here to

see what connections we can make between Tonipa and UFO Legacy Program operations.

The only UFO researcher I have seen make such a connection before, and he did so in reference to leaked information given

to him, is the legend Richard Dolan. In 2021, Dolan detailed information leaked to him from a source familiar with the

classified UAP task force report presented to Congress. The classified report apparently discussed energy pulse

propulsion systems, ion propulsion systems, anti-gravity propulsion systems, antimatter propulsion systems,

ramjet hydrogen propulsion systems, compressed nuclear propulsion systems, and advanced uses of exotic elements for

energy research dealing with recovered nonhuman technologies. According to Dolan source, these highly

classified projects were spearheaded by DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, and managed by a

classified group called Advanced Group Six. This source stated all funding for these

projects are black budget confidential funds and some come from private contractors themselves, aka what we

spoke about earlier, IRAD. prototyping of these crafts utilizing the above technology including platforms

leveraging exotic nonhuman materials and systems according to this source are flown out of Area 51 and Tonapa test

range. The source stated these craft were operated solely within the Nevada test and training range which actually

does comport with the testimony of Ed. >> I want to talk about that as well. I I want to share with you information that

was leaked to me just about an hour before I went live. All right? And that's why I had to work this in. So,

it's a it's a statement. I'm going to show it to you and I'm going to read it and I'm going to talk a little bit about

it. So, this is a uh the text of what was sent to me just a little while ago. I'm going to

read it. So, this was not written by my source. This was written to my source, which was then sent to me.

All these highly classified projects are under the control of the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, DARPA,

and being managed by a classified group called Advance Group Six. Advance Group Six.

All funding for these projects is black confidential funds appropriated under intelligence operations costs. Some

funds come from private contractors. That's interesting. And then listen carefully to this part.

Prototypes of flying crafts utilizing the above technology are being flown at Area 51 and Tonapa Air Force Base test

range. Some of the UAPs observed in and around Nevada can be, and this is I think a mistaken word, they say

contributed, and I think the author means to say attributed. So I'm going to read it correctly. Some of the UAPs

observed in and around Nevada can be attributed to crafts using the above propulsion systems. However, and listen

carefully to this please, none of the experimental crafts have flown outside the Nellis test and training range. Seen

as Lockheed managed Sandia that ran Tonipa just four years between this 2021 and rumored classified 2021 report. This

directly implies Lockheed was involved in both RDT&E of these craft and funding these programs through IRAD. But this

advanced group six here I can find nothing about them. If you watching have anything to add here regarding advanced

group 6, please by all means let me know. But back to Lockheed in the history of

Tonipa. Recall that Tonapa is the test range of choice for all security missions.

Sandia and formerly Lockheed out here conduct missions in direct support of the Department of Energy's weapons

programs. Alongside DOE, Tonapa Range also offers a quote unique test environment for use by other US

government agencies and their contractors end quote. Other clandestine and secretive program activities at TTR

include robotics testing and development, smart transportation related testing, aka pre-programmed/

remotecontrolled air and ground vehicles, infrared tests and rocket development testing and deployment.

TTR consists of land supporting personnel barracks, one major and several minor airfields, admin and range

control offices, emergency services, vehicle maintenance shops, facilities maintenance shops, fuel storage areas,

classified storage depots, and if my understanding is correct, a deep underground military base.

Of course, in my work, I have traditionally referred to Douggeway Proving Ground as Area 52. After all,

this over 1,500 square mile site housing both the West Desert Test Center and sections of the Utah Test and Training

Range, MRTFBs, has been accused of continuing on the legacy of select UFO programs

originating from Area 51 Groom Lake. I strongly believe Douggeway engages in contractor-led UFO Legacy programs both

above ground near the Avery section of the West Desert Test Center and in an enormous subterranean facility located

under Granite Peak. I can't recommend enough checking out my Dougway project. It is one of my all-time favorite

projects and there is so much to chew on there. But outside of Dougway, Tonupa here is

also known as Area 52 and sometimes even Area 54. In fact, TTR was referred to as Area 52

as early as 1957 in atomic energy commission maps and we can even find 1997 documents from the DOE specifically

referring to Tonipa as area 52. Now mention of the Atomic Energy Commission, Tonapa's founding entity is

quite critical here. Tonipa arose from 1950s Atomic Energy Commission efforts to survey for an ideal site for

permanent ballistics test ranges for unarmed nuclear weapon shapes. Funny enough, the site for Tonipo was

eventually recommended in 1956 by the Naval Air Special Weapons Facility, which is now known as the NAWCWD,

Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division, which is primarily located at China Lake. Another usual suspect of

this channel. Remember how I often state as I did earlier in this project, the Atomic

Energy Commission has highly likely used the 1954 Atomic Energy Agreement to black hole and sequester UFO legacy

program operations into the deepest of deep six programs under quote unquote transclassified foreign nuclear

information. One really must wonder if perhaps China Lake in the Atomic Energy Commission

chose such an isolated and classified location to work on AEC and successor agency's UFO legacy program operations.

Perhaps areas like the classified storage area surrounded by a double row of barbed wire in the already highly

secured northern NTR at Tonipa store more than just weapons. Though TTR is a range managed by Edwards

412th Test Wing and the Nevada Test and Training Range, formerly known as the 98th Range Wing, which are two Air Force

MRTFBs, the Navy seemed to take more than a keen interest in Tonipa than just allowing

China Lake to suggest a site. In fact, in the early days of Tonapa, the Naval Air Special Weapons Facility

began conducting special weapons testing on the TTR in conjunction with the Atomic Energy Commission. This mission

expanded its focus from just equipping naval aircraft with nuclear weapon capabilities to encompassing air,

surface, and subsurface launched nuclear weapons, including the Polaris, Poseidon, and Trident submarine launched

ballistic missile systems. If you recall the Polaris submarine program, this project was spearheaded by

Admiral William F. Rayborn, who would go on to serve on the board of directors of both Wacken Hut and SIC.

Chief scientist of special projects to the Navy, John Pñena Craraven would state in 1965

he was briefed into one project sand dollar after being tasked with spearheading the 1964 deep submergence

systems project. that saw the Navy drastically improve deep sea engineering and exploration capabilities.

Craraven here would state the DSSP operated to satisfy the whims of affforementioned sand dollar, a

clandestine, highly compartmentalized project that was tasked to retrieve militarily sensitive hardware and other

items with national security importance from the seafloor of the continental shelf in deep marine environments.

And in the past I have directly associated sand dollar with maritime UFO crash retrieval operations.

In fact the acknowledged principal craft created under DSSP DSRV or deep submergence rescue vehicles

mystic and Avalon were after all created by Lheed. However, Craraven stated sand dollar was

nestled within a complex web of programs itself hidden within the Polaris program that was actually conducted at Tonipa.

Naval operations ceased at Tonipa in 1993 and shortly after Loheed Martin took charge of operations at the range.

There are theories here that are quite interesting to me. Locky created undersea submersibles to satisfy a deep

ocean engineering project sand dollar that I wager was tasked with retrieving underwater UFOs. This program was hidden

within the Polaris program under Admiral Rayborn which was conducting testing operations at Tonipa, a clandestine

atomic energy commission Sandia National Lab site Lockheed would command administration of shortly after Navy

ceased operations at the range. Mysteries surrounding Tonipa are plentiful, and I've at least learned

from private conversations that Tonipa is where quite a bit of the quote unquote interesting stuff is stored.

Just what sort of clandestine operations did Loheed engage with in its near 22 years administrating Sandia National

Labs and Tonapa? Could Lockheed have spearheaded and funded through IRAD much of the alleged leaked information

detailed by Richard Dolan that apparently is conducted at the range. And last thing here for all my Area 51

S4 afficionados, Tonipa actually contains its own acknowledged site 4. Indeed, we can reference the undated,

unclassified Sandia TTR map shown on screen earlier, and we can zoom into the east TTR to observe two, possibly three

locations labeled as site 4. This specific area of TTR is managed by the Air Force 554th Range Squadron in

support of the Tonipa Electronic Combat Range. If an Air Force range squadron sounds familiar, I have previously

implicated the 388th Range Squadron of the UTR as participating in Dougway proving ground UFO legacy program

operations. On the map, we can see in Roman numerals site 4, an additional marker S4, and one

last marker TEWR or Tonapa electronic warfare range, HQ compound site, and either S4 or 54. I personally believe

this label clearly shows 54 in reference to Area 54, but some still argue this text displays S4. According to

Otherhand, a fantastic now defunct blog, workers in TTR were permitted and perhaps even encouraged to live in

nearby communities outside of the Tonapa range. Site 4 employees, however, were required to utilize commuter flights

from Las Vegas, aka the illustrious and mysterious red striped Janet Airlines that flew employees directly to Area 51

and Tonapa. In fact, we can even see a Janet airliner in this clip here. Other hand states site 4 employees being

required to transit to Tonapa via Janet speaks to the secrecy of site 4 in the already highly secretive TTR.

While no direct reports have come from Tonapa site 4 regarding UFO legacy programs, the private sources who

informed me Tonipa stores quite a number of the quote unquote interesting stuff also claim that Tonapa Site 4 is

directly involved in UFO operations. Over the years, some have tried to claim Bob Lazar ripped site 4 from Tonipa to

construct a fantasy regarding the Area 51 auxiliary site built into the side of the mountains resting on Papoose dry

lake bed. I personally do not agree with this assessment at all, as I am quite confident that Area 51S4 is indeed a

very real site near or exactly where Mr. Lazar claims it resides and does indeed feature hangers disguised to appear as

local terrain. During the course of our investigation today, we have already talked so much

about Lockheed Skunkworks, also known as the Advanced Development Programs Division, infamously regarded for its

highly classified efforts to develop some absolutely stunning aircraft, aerospace, and national security

technologies. Such platforms include the F-17 Nighthawk, SR71 Blackbird, U2 spy plane,

F-35 Lightning 2, F-22, and much more. Skunkworks, operating largely out of Air Force plant 42, has also been accused

for decades of designing, engineering, and constructing alien reproduction vehicles.

Now, I know I harp on him quite a bit, but one area in which I very much agree with Dr. Steven Greer is where he claims

the Lockheed Skunk Works operates out of Air Force Plant 42 and Helenale Loheed radar cross-section facility in a joint

network of UFO Legacy Program facilities. What is this name of the place you were talking, man? I want to

go to the Jake Barber clip. What is the name of the place? The Antio Lock. That picture that you showed, what's the name

of it if Rob wanted to just search for it? Well, this is the um I think the Howland. It's the Well, it's just the

Loheed Skunk Works test range. >> Lockheed concourse >> skunk works. Loheed skunk works. So,

it's an RCS r. It's a range where they test. And I have some other images we can give you where you'll see there's um

what looks like a runway, right? You got a runway back here at this jetport. >> It's not a runway. You look at there are

diamonds on what looks like a runway. That's where the man-made anti-grav anti-gravity craft that Lockheed makes

come up out of the ground, hover over the diamond, and then they're struck with certain directional energy weapons

to see how sturdy they are and how stable they are. And most of them are hardened enough, but occasionally one

goes down. >> Is that what you're talking about right there?

>> Correct. So you see those d that is not a runway. So they come up and they float over those diamonds at various

distances. And so that's where you test these objects and uh they're electrogravetic meaning they're uh not

not conventional propulsion systems. So there's no rockets, there's no jets, etc.

>> If this is the first time you are hearing about the Tahhon or Helenale RCS ranges, you must be new to my channel

and welcome in. I recommend watching my dumbs video or video on Northup Grman to learn more.

These radar cross-section ranges operate or operated to test stealth airframes radar cross-sections. Because these

sites were built during the Cold War, much of these facilities exist below ground.

Now, I'm in full agreement here with Greer that elements of Northrup out of Tahhon and Loheed Skunkworks out of

Helenale are a critical piece of antelope valley UFO legacy program operations.

Where I get frustrated with Greer and mention of Skunk Works, however, are his definitive claims without hypothesis,

documentation, or evidence that the octagonal alien reproduction vehicle Michael Herrera observed in 2009 was

derived from the Lockheed skunk works. I suppose this information is quote unquote proprietary to Greer's team as I

have tried to seek further answers on this specific claim from individuals who maintain a relationship with Greer. But

I was told that this information around Herrera and the skunk works octagon is confidential. But in a similar vein,

Greer also stated he knew for a fact the 2004 Nimtt's tic tac originated from the Lockheed skunk works. So, like when

David Fraver and I first spoke, who is the F-18 Hornet pilot and it was a serendipitous meeting

because there's a band called Godsmack. >> That's a heavy metal band. Yeah. >> And the lead guy, Sully Arnas, a friend

of mine, and it turned out he lived across the road from David Fraver. >> Ah,

>> because his daughter had backed into his mailbox and broke it and they he went, "Oh, it's David Fraver." Really funny.

The universe works in strange ways. That is a crazy synchronicity. >> So Sully Ara calls me up says

>> this God back lead singer guy and he go and I go really he's your neighbor. Well get him on the horn. Let's talk.

>> Yes. >> It was some years ago. And David goes oh yeah that was you know it had to be

alien. I said sir with all due respect that was how the locked skunk works. >> Really? That made the craft.

>> Yeah. That was one of ours. And >> and he is now. >> So F because Fraver wouldn't say that

now. >> Oh, he did say so recently. >> But in front of Congress, ceases. I

said, >> well, they he's been told since then he's corrected. So I said, "No, that

came out of the Lockheed Skunk Works. It's one of ours. It was something that they did on purpose to see our this

global organization to see how our military would react." So you think that Tic Tac was was

>> Similar statements have been made by Ross Colart that were met by the UFO community with skepticism, outrage, and

some intrigue. >> I'm going to leave you with one thought today, Bryce. I now know categorically

that the tic tac is Loheed Martin technology. Categorically >> the tic tac is Loheed Martin technology.

Why are we being lied to? This is the issue. Why is the United States government now participating at

White House executive level in collusion with the national security state to keep secret the fact that they've made these

advances? >> I suspect I suspect it's because they've realized that they're being overtaken by

their foreign adversaries and they don't want you to know that. I stated previously in my video on Rodri Castle,

I have no strong theories on if the Nimtt's craft originated from the skunk works. I did however state I do believe

there are human-made and nonhuman Tic Tacs. Here in that video, I explored if the Tic Tac was flying within the area

of operations of US Nimits aviation exercises. This would imply the Tic Tac could have been gauging reaction types,

times, speeds, methods, etc. of an unknowing force if it were enemy contact. Warning the pilots beforehand

taints the results and observations. It is very disturbing to theorize that the Lockheed skunk works could have

possibly tested on unwitting US servicemen and ace pilots at that. But regarding the skunk works, there is

a rather infamous set of quotes from a Lockheed skunk works director that seemed to directly admit that Lockheed

had harnessed non-human technology. These quotes are indeed contentious and worthy of exploration. So, let's

investigate Lockheed's second director of skunkworks from 1975 to 1991, Ben Rit, aka the father of stealth.

The late legendary Ben Rich is famous in the UFO community for a series of alleged incredible statements some take

as an admission from a decorated skunkworks director with decades of experience on SAPS that Lockheed indeed

possesses physics defined capabilities and familiarity with quote unquote ET while others interpret these statements

as hyperbole or possibly even fabrication. At a speech at UCLA in 1993, Ben Rich

would allegedly state, quote, "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are

locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything

you can imagine, we already know how to do." End quote. However, these statements were seemingly

confirmed by aerospace engineer Tom Keller, who wrote a MUON mutual UFO network article in 2010, confirming he

attended this 1993 lecture, and Rich did indeed make such statements. We also have former MUON director,

nuclear engineer, and UCLA alum John Haren, who stated he attended this 1993 lecture. He ended his talk with a slide

of a black disc zipping off into outer space and he ended it with these words. We now have the technology to take ET

home and the entire place broke up laughing. And Tom and I just looked at each other said, "Did did he did he

really just say that? And and are these people really not getting that what he's saying is real?" And so we just kind of

let it go. There was a plight Q&A session and then the meeting ended. Well, about 20 25 of us gathered up

around him to for a secondary, you know, host Q&A like most speakers have. And it was very polite at first, people

just asking questions about his career and things like that. Finally, one lady said, "How does this f how does this uh

getting ET home work?" And he looks at her and he says, "Well, talks a little bit lower." He's trying to ignore kind

of thing. So, someone else asked the same question. So, finally, he just said, he said, "Well," he said, "Let me

ask you a question. Do you think it's possible to travel to the stars? He asked this about a particular engineer

who had asked him a question about his career. And uh the engineer said, "Well, I don't know. It would just take a long

time to get there." He said, "No, it wouldn't. We found an error in the equations and

we now know how to travel to the stars and it won't take us a lifetime to do it." Tarzan would claim Ben Rich

delivered some even further startling quotes. >> And we asked him questions about it. You

know, what did you mean when you said we have the technology to take ET home? Ben shared three major things that I think

are are worthy of research by researchers worldwide at this point in time. The first was we've somehow

figured out how to do interstellar travel already. It's known. The second point he made was that there was an

error in the equations. My suspicion is it's probably Maxwell's equations for electromagnetic magnetic theory. The

third thing he said was how does ESP work? And I was really kind of startled because I didn't know what to say. But I

blurted out, "I don't know. All points in time and space are connected." And he looked me back in the eye and he said,

"That's how it works." Remember this discussion of ESP for later as it will oddly loop back into our investigation.

But all this is to say, we must take quite a bit of apprehension towards Tarzan as the former MUON director would

be charged with some very disturbing crimes regarding a minor. Perhaps we can also look to Jane's

defense writer James Goodall, whose work I have previously referenced. Specifically, Goodall's discussion of

black programs and silent flying triangles out of Area 51 Groom Lake, work I absolutely agree with. Goodall

would claim one of his sources informed him that UFOs positively exist. Well, another source informed him, quote, we

have things out there that are literally out of this world. Better than Star Trek or anything you can see in the movies.

End quote. This source was actually Goodall's good friend, Ben Rich. >> By the way,

>> uh James Goodall, Jim Goodall's friend of mine, and he >> probably was the last man

>> to talk to uh >> Ben Rich. Ben Rich before he died. He said, you know, Ben Rich said, "Ah,

anything you can imagine that you've seen at Star Trek and this and that, >> we already have done at the skunk

works." >> And then he said, "It's not at Area 51. It's out in the desert there.

>> If you want to talk regarding Jim Goodall, I'll be happy to get him on the phone right this very second if you want

to. We'll do this live. >> Let's Let's call. >> This is awesome.

>> Hey, Jim, are you there?" That's okay. That's okay. So, ju just a quick review. I'm doing this in real

time. I'm in I'm in Austin, Texas. I'm with Jesse Michaels. I'm doing an interview. We were talking about John

Lear. We were talking about your good friend at You Know Where. So, could could you talk about, you know,

paraphrase here, talk about what Ben Rich told you at the hospital just before he passed away?

Just before Ben Rich passed away, uh, when I was talking to him, he told me, and this is this is about the end of a

45minut, uh, conversation. He said, "Jim, we have things out in the desert." And he wasn't referring to Area 51. We

have things out in the desert that is 50 years beyond what you can comprehend. I can comprehend a hell of a lot. Uh,

and he said, "If you've seen if you've seen movies like Star Trek or Star Wars, we've been there, done that,

or decided it wasn't worth the effort." >> I recognized that there were people in government that wanted to engage the

public on topics that unfortunately had a stigma even though they were based in scientific fact. At the time, there was

no mechanism for them to do this. Through a series of meetings, I was soon connected to a large group of US

government officials from the CIA, the Department of Defense, and Loheed Martin Skunk Works. These guys were the ones

involved in the secret of US government programs that dealt with these subjects, and they have all taken tremendous risks

to themselves and their reputations to do something that can benefit the world. They wanted to be a part of something

special, to be a part of a company that could not only change the way we see ourselves, but also change the path

humanity is on. I am equally intrigued in Lockheed Skunkwork's bizarre relationship with Tong Dong and To the

Stars Academy. On Joe Rogan episode 1, released on 26 October 2017. Rockstar Tom Dong discussed the

inception of To the Stars Academy, a group of his advised by Air Force Major General Neil Macasand, Air Force Major

General Michael Kerry, Hillary Clinton campaign manager John Podesta, how put off Chris Melon, Luis Alzando, Loheed

Martin skunkworks executive vice president Rob Whites, and 30 plus year skunkworks veteran Steve Justice.

working on things that defy imagination. >> I believe um that the technology uh not only exists, we've figured out how to

play with it. But I'm not going to really get into that here. I what that is what we're doing at my company

though. That is the announcement. So Steve Justice was head of advanced programs at the Skunk Works. And the

Skunk Works are who built you know the famous secret bases you hear about. Skunk Works did, you know, the U2 spy

plane, the SR71 Blackbird, the F1 uh 117 stealth fighter, and >> it's all Groom Lake out there,

>> all that kind of stuff. And um and he literally was in charge of all the advanced programs. So, you know, you got

the boss and you got him >> and um he came uh he just finished his career over there within the past two

months, I think it is, and and he was on stage with me when we came out and and said, "We're going to be building one of

these things." To be quite honest, Tom would act as a trailblazer discussing much of what I discuss here today on my

channel, including most critically DoD contractors possessing non-human derived technologies and recovered nonhuman

craft and biologics. Dong suggested to the stars academy or TTSA was restrained from releasing

information still tightly held in the SAP world and any inadvertent release of said information could be considered a

breach of national security. So Tom and TTSA sought to utilize group investors to build from scratch free energy

technology for energy and aerospace programs. By 2021, Melon, Alzando, and Steve

Justice would leave TTSA, and the group deemphasized a scientific focus to produce entertainment projects.

The entire TTSA saga is so incredibly bizarre, as is the inclusion of figures like Melon, Alzando, and Pudof, and

institutions like Lockheed Skunkworks. Perhaps one day I will sit down to do a focused analysis on TTSA. As it seems to

me, Dong was indeed propped up as a mouthpiece to disseminate legitimate information.

My mind does though immediately draw to Dong's book, Secret Machines, a Romana Clay meant to detail real events

overlaid with a facade of fiction. Essentially, secret machines serve to deliver a science fiction novel fusing

the imagination of Dong with actual events obtained from US military officials and government sources.

The alleged facts in this book were delivered by the commander of Air Force Research Lab at Wright Patterson,

multiple skunk works officials and others. In Secret Machines, Dong discusses

reverse engineered triangular aerospace vehicles that are capable of performing incredible feats. Of course, Loheed

Martin has been accused by Fuché and many others of developing TR3B or similar models reverse engineered

triangular craft. This fascinating piece of literature, however, makes numerous mentions to an

Astra black triangle reverse engineered craft. Quote, "The craft itself, according to its data manual, was

triangular and was named the Astra TR3B, but we call it the Locust," said Becker with a smile. He was proud to be

connected to it. "The Locust had control layouts unlike those used in any aircraft he had ever seen. Controls that

were not just unfamiliar, but counterintuitive to anyone with a basic sense of aviation or aerospace physics."

End quote. But what I really want to draw attention to is the description of the Astra's control mechanism. When

characters in the book operate the Astra TR3B Locust, the pilot's chair looked disappointingly like that from an F-16.

But on the left armrest of the seat set a red sphere sitting in a cradle. These details are intriguing as the cradled

sphere control mechanisms matches identically that described by Mark McCandish and Brad Sorenson. that was

allegedly used to control the flux liner ARV. Another vehicle supposedly engineered partly by Loheed Martin.

Additionally, characters in the secret machines book were disappointed the pilot's chair was ripped from an F-16.

Recall back to Flux Liner, both Sorenson and Mccandalish described the poorly designed copy Flux Liner vehicles

employed F4 Phantom ejection seats that appeared extremely out of place in the hovering flying saucer. Again, perhaps

we will cover Dong and TTSA more in the future as I would like to relate Tom's efforts to the Bigalow Aerospace

Advanced Space Studies 10-month report dated 30 July 2009 that was delivered while contracting under the OAP program.

There is a theory here that Tom was targeted by Alzando and Melon to execute an updated version of a leftover idea

that was Project Forum. As detailed by this BAS 10-month report, Project Forum was a proposed 2010s program that sought

to quote raise the level of awareness of the importance of ET and the potential disclosure in North America end quote by

beginning in California. Would it truly be a UAP Gerb video without connections to the Wilson Davis

notes? An alleged memo recounting the greatest instance of a senior United States flag officer and intelligence

official being gatekept from accessing the UFO legacy program portfolio. as I do in most of my projects these

days. I will assume the viewer has some familiarity with the Wilson Davis notes. After all, covering this memo was

actually my first ever video on this channel and featured references to Loheed Martin.

And regardless of the recent drama with Dr. Eric Davis's sources incorrectly stating the September 2025 UFO House

Oversight Committee hearing was postponed or Davis's apparent issues with myself. I still fully believe the

fundamental facts of this memo regarding Vice Admiral Thomas Wilson attempting and failing to access UFO legacy

programs are absolutely correct. But real fast, let's very briefly summarize this topic.

In short, these disputed but highly likely accurate notes transcribed by Dr. Eric Davis were leaked from the estate

of the late astronaut Edgar Mitchell. These notes recount a 2002 conversation between Davis and VADM and former DIA

director Thomas Wilson outside of the parking lot of contractor EG&G. The conversation recounts Wilson finding

but being stonewalled in accessing UFO recovery and material exploitation programs

that were protected by the DoD's special access program oversight committee sapach senior review group SRG and a

large defense contractor Wilson refused to name. According to Wilson, he was informed by General Michael Ward to

search a special records group in the office of the Secretary of Defense for acquisition and technology belonging to

special legacy holdover programs from before the special access program restructuring efforts in the early

1990s. In the memo, UFO legacy programs were reorganized under the SAPPO SRG after an

internal audit almost revealed the programs. This SAP reorganization began on the 5th

of January 1994 when the Deputy Secretary of Defense significantly enhanced changes in the DoD special

access program management and control structures. This newsletter on screen now highlights

those changes, establishing the senior review group as well. In my video on SIC, I built a strong

case as to why SIC was the contractor Wilson refused to name to Eric Davis that served as an integral piece to the

UFO legacy program gatekeeping structure. In this same project, I also analyzed the sitting depth sect defeapok

permanent members and SAP SRG members as well as outlined several such highlevel individuals with direct involvement in

the reorganization of special access programs between 1993 to 1994 that also served highlevel executive or

board positions at sic. Key individuals here include Depectdef who actually was responsible for the

restructuring of Sappok William J. Perry and his immediate successor John Deutsch both of whom served on the boards of

SIC. In Deutsche's case, the accomplished professional also served as director of

central intelligence, a professor at MIT, enjoyed numerous positions within the DOE, and additionally served as a

consultant pre-work on SAPO with TRW, Lawrence Liverour National Labs and the MITER Corporation, three institutions I

have directly accused of being involved in UFO legacy programs. In my first ever video on this channel,

I wagered the unnamed contractor whose name Wilson refused to even utter was indeed Loheed Martin. However, post my

SEIC video, I still maintain the contractor in question is indeed sic. But that's not to say Loheed Martin is

not a critical piece laying in the shadows of discussion of the Wilson Davis notes. In fact, perhaps Lockheed

is a critical component to the reorganization of Sappok itself that in the Wilson Davis notes led to the

reorganization and restructuring of UFO legacy program operations. In the SEIC video, I explored a theory

that the need for UFO legacy programs to restructure the special access program oversight committee to avoid any further

instances of exposure through audits actually arose from a general accounting office May 1993 report titled DoD

special access programs administrative due process not provided when access is denied or revoked. End quote. which

discussed the Navy and Air Force not complying with DoD regulation 62000.2-R which discussed special access program

accesses. Interestingly enough, the Army did comply in some cases here according to

this GAO document. According to some of my research, this actually makes sense to me as I am familiar with cases in

which the US Army seem to operate UFO material exploitation programs in a strict controlled environment with

oversight while Navy and Air Force legacy programs seem to operate far more loosely.

Well, perhaps we can find even more context here from the US General Accounting Office that actually

highlights Lockheed's work on black budget SAPs as the nexus for this early 1990s audit that allegedly almost

exposed UFO legacy programs. On screen now, observe an August 1986 GAO report to the US SECDE titled,

quote, "Need for DoD inspections of special access contracts." End quote. This report detailed GAO investigations

into critical missteps in carveout program security protocols, specifically poor document control

systems over classified special access documents at the Lockheed Corporation's Burbank plant.

And recall Lockheed's Burbank plant actually served as the spawn point for skunk works in 1943.

It is quite interesting how by 1992 6 years after this GAO report Lockheed had pulled all aerospace activities from

Burbank. According to a 24 July 1986 report titled

controls over classified documents for a special access program at Lockheed Corporation end quote written by Martin

M. Ferour, Associate Director, National Security and International Affairs Division. Attempts to periodically

analyze compliance with security requirements within special access programs arose all the way back in 1965.

Pre 1965, each military service or DoD component was responsible for security administration over all contracts within

their associated industry. to preclude inconsistencies and duplication, especially for contractors doing

business with more than one service or component. The Defense Investigative Service, now called the Defense Security

Service, was given responsibility for security administration over practically all of DoD's contracts, conducting

semianual on-site inspections of contractor facilities to check for compliance with security requirements.

Funny enough, in that same year of 1965, DoD decided due to the sensitive nature of SAPS, SAPS themselves were outright

excluded from supervision by the Defense Investigative Service. Defense Investigative Service was only allowed

periodic inspections to SAP FS or SAP facilities. In this document, Ferber gives us some

interesting information into special access programs, discussing that a SAT may be created on a specific showing

that quote, "Normal management and safeguarding procedures are not sufficient to limit need to know or

access, and the number of persons who will need access will be reasonably small and commensurate with the

objectives of providing extra protection for the information involved." End quote. SAPS of course feature their

unagnowledged counterparts USAPS and most SAPs involved contractors in special access contracts.

And here we can discuss the difference between SAPs and carveout contracts aka special access contracts.

Carveout contracts are called such because they are carved out of the defense investigative services periodic

inspection program. Carveout contracts are SAPs that contractors manage with minimal oversight and extensive

freedoms. Carveout contracts often experience even less oversight than traditional SAPs or USAPS from which