How to Access Power: Navigate Corridors of Influence

month elapses. If one month elapses, they forget you. I met Emily Jack this week, Esther Jack

this week, and I've invited her immediately before the month ends. We'll have done like three things together.

What does that do? It makes you unforgettable. [snorts]

>> You must learn how to overtake traffic. Remember in corridors of power, every great person you meet, if it's stony,

there are many people. Let me let me do this example. Randy come Randy and let's say five other people can come from this

side. I show you something. This is a very powerful illustration. We can do it up here. I just want to show you this.

It's a very simple concept but it will help you. Come come come. Please come come. So you stand at the center. All of

you surround him and make sure that the circle is tight. Make a circle and hold hands tightly. I want to show you

something. So there should be like two circles. So make two circles. Let be let there be an outer circle and an inner

circle. Again, three people can make another circle inside. Three people and then the outer circle should cover.

Never forget this illustration. Now, make sure that the circle is so tight so tight that I cannot pass.

Any great person you want to meet, there'll always be a circle that you're supposed to overcome. You try to enter,

they push you. They'll they'll they'll tell you things like, "He's busy. you cannot find him. So they they push

you. Now using principles you can navigate the first circle. Open it. But penetrating this will be hard. Will be

hard. Now this one you don't open it using force. John 18:16. The Bible says when Jesus was going to be examined

before his arrest, Peter was denied access. Go read that scripture. It says Peter was denied

access because the servant girl did not know him. Can you imagine mighty Peter closer to

Jesus was being told you can't enter here because the servant girl had not seen his face

right this you must be visible to the people around power they must know your face they must know your name. [snorts]

So one of the things I do if I want to access a member of parliament their bodyguard their driver their wife is

very important their brother their sister is very important. I tip those people. THEY ARE SECRETARY. HERE THERE'S

NO OTHER CONVERSATION. MONEY TALKS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YOU UNDERSTAND? It's not a God bless

you. IT'S NOT COMPLIMENTS. MONEY TALKS. SAY WRITE IT IN CAPITAL LETTERS. HERE IT'S MONEY. WE ARE not talking anything

else. What the world calls bribing was supposed to be honor only that it has been misused.

It's money. Either it can be a gift but money will cost you. >> Either it can be a ticket, money will

cost you. Here it's money. That's why the Bible says, "Money answerth to all things." Write it down. As if I'm going

to navigate corridors of power, wealth is important. Wealth gives me access. I'm not even joking.

[snorts] Boss, the circle should stay strong. We've not finished the illustration.

Remember, I broke the first circle, so it's remaining the second one. Money talks. There's no other way here.

Access is bought. Access is bought. Access is expensive. Why is access expensive? Because to

access any key person, number one, they're insecure. Number two, they have trust issues. Number three, there are

people who have misused that access. So what happens? Every time they go through pain, every time they go through trust

issues, they build an extra wall. They build more distance with people. So when you come, they will not accept you

quickly and just embrace you. They will be a bit defensive. What do you want? What do you what what what do you want

to get from us? Who are you? Why do you qualify to be here? You think they'll just accept you. No. And this apply

listen now I'm talking to you as people who are in the church navigating corridors of power for people like you

will be in three levels corporate government and church [snorts] there there are people in church who are also

powerful people like re Julian Kula Fe Lazarus Joshua Selman APOSTO THEY ARE PASTORS BUT they are not pastors

the prao that I have now came because of Fei Lazarus and Joshua Selman, courtesy of Julian Culer. [laughter]

You understand? You must stop approaching pastors as pastors. Write that down.

A pastor is not a pastor. A pastor is beyond a pastor. [laughter]

Yesterday, Pastor Anie called me and told me, "Benny, someone wants to give you money. How much do you need?" and

say this person wants to be anonymous. You're the one who sees pastors as pastors.

A pastor is not a pastor. See them beyond a pastor. Pastor Tim Wong to me has not been a pastor. In fact, he's my

coach. He coaches me on politics. He tells me for now disappear. Don't talk this week. Do this. Move like this.

Position yourself this way. Don't post this video. Do this. I approach them that way. This week I was shooting a

video with Apostle Lazarus and he told me never mention your contact again in a video. Say the number is on the screen.

If you say the number it's too long, it makes you not look powerful. That so is that a pastor?

IF YOU KEEP approaching your pastors, man of God, thank you. So that's why they will tell you only things that you

want to hear. Papa never. If you come and tell me God told

you, there are things I'll not tell you. You come and tell me Benny God told me to date this girl. Just say okay all the

best. You say God because who am I to argue with God. So never go to a pastor and tell them God told you the Holy

Spirit told me. I feel it in my spirit. I heard it from God. It will be very hard for them to tell you certain

things. You want to move to another job and you say God has told me to go to this country. They will not advise you.

You've already blocked them from telling you certain truths [laughter]

that I was led by the Lord. Yes, you led by the Lord, but you when you go to them, tell them, I need wisdom. I need

your perspective. You must know how to communicate to people in a way that they will tell you a lot of things.

You ask a question, then you pull back and then you allow them to talk. Then you ask, it's called key transitional

questions. Key transitional questions. There's another session I'll be doing in the afternoon before Apostle comes up

and I'll be teaching you about how to have conversations that lead to answers. How do you ask in a way that someone can

tell you so much? How do you ask questions in a way that can trigger people to loop you in to bring you in?

When we were with Esther this week, Apostle sat for sat with us for 6 hours. The first time I met Vusy, I sat with

him for 6 hours. 6 hours. Can you imagine? 6 hours. First time I went to Nigeria, one conversation with Apostle.

He interviewed me in the evening on on his podcast. Next time I'm going to Nigeria, he hosted me in his house for 3

weeks. There's a way in which you must know how to talk to people in a way that they can

open the door for you permanently. I get and this one requires you to move intentionally.

You are not supposed to wait to be invited. Write that down. You know, sometimes people text me, they tell me,

"Benny, uh uh when can I come and see you?" You know where to find me? I'm here. I'm in events. So, they say it's

very difficult to find you. Every Friday I do disruptors convention. So, you just come there

sometimes. Don't complicate it. Don't complicate it and write that down that I should not complicate or overthink.

If you complicate and overthink, imagine Tony if David arrived at the battlefield then he was like should I send Saul an

email? [laughter] Should I send Saul an email to ask him that I am requesting I'm sending a proposal to kindly kill

Golath if possible. There is a language of asking for permission. It will kill you.

Write that down. You don't ask for permission to do what you've been called to do. Imagine [laughter]

[gasps] if you sent an email. Sometimes people come here in disab movement. THEY HAVE

VALUE FOR US. YOU KNOW THAT the live streaming is not the best and you're like you know I should move carefully.

You know here maybe there is someone who is insecure. Boss don't care about insecure people. You do what you've been

called to do. We are not here to be liked. If David's own brother was against him

and he still did what he needed to do, who are you? But you know, you know, I must ask for

permission. You know, sometimes you don't just go in a place and and you take over. Kai Kai Kai Kai. Jesus took

over in a very short period of time. So the first door you'll access it by principle, but the second door you

access it by trust and doing things that make you unforgettable.

And I've told you in corridors of this power, you don't break doors, you open doors.

Can I repeat again? You don't break doors. Henry, welcome. There's a seat here for you. You do what? You open

doors. Let's welcome Henry and his girlfriend. [applause] The girlfriend of Henry almost wants to

die. He's like, Benny, what did you just do? You know, people don't know that Henry is a solid guy and he's an amazing

guy. Welcome, Ivonne. So good to see all you people. Emily, you can jump to the next seat so they sit together and feel

nice. Today Andy will say I came with my wife for the last five five years. Thank you.

Can I continue boss? When my actor you don't I've said you don't break doors, you do what?

Breaking doors is forcing. For example, never send anyone an a DM on Instagram of five messages. It is not

consistent. It is foolishness. You come and you understand. You know, there's a guy who used to send me

messages on Instagram every day at 3:00 a.m. and I'll keep sending. I'll not give up until you see it. I blocked him

because you can't be sending me too many messages. That's not consistency. I blocked him because that's

foolishness. You can't be So, I found 30 messages at every day. I'll be sending a message at 3:00 a.m. until you see it.

And then he commence on all my post until you give me the attention. You don't force power. You entice power. You

persuade power. You pull it. You pull it on your side. You entice it. For example, you come in such an event and

you planned to meet with Fe Lazarus. Then he comes in and then you run to to the protocol and catch his hand. That's

that's foolishness. There's a way to pull power. There's a way to entice it.

Because if you do that, imagine if David ran to King Saul and said, "Me, I want to fight right now. Right now, I want to

kill that golath." But look at what happened. I want you to follow these steps. Number one, he gave the commander

food. Number two, he asked the questions that he needed to ask. Let me say this. Never

interview power, give it solutions. Never go to a key person and you start asking questions like you don't know

what you're supposed to do. What is my role? What's the role of this position? So what do you think I should do? You

don't interview power. You give it solutions. You give it answers. So David did not interview Saul. By the

time he's getting to Saul, he had done his research. I don't know if I'm making sense. So you

don't interview power. You give it answers. You take time to check around the system. You take time to do your

research. You take time to understand scope of the problem. Manuel give me two. You take time to understand what's

the scope of the problem. What solution can you be able to find? You think through. By the time you meet this

person, answers only. I can write this again. Capital letters. Answers only. Answers only. Answers [clears throat]

only. There's no no questions here. It's just answers. Answers. Purely purely answers. Purely answers. purely

solutions. Let your conversation be 80% solutions, then maybe 20% questions. 80% solutions. 80% people should feel like

you know what you're doing. I know what I'm doing and I understand what I'm doing. I'm the right person for the job.

I tell people, don't just stand out. Not that one. Be the standard. Don't just stand out. Be the standard. Be the

standard. Be the standard. and try to check what are the gaps around this person. The

gaps you should give the opposite of the gaps which is purely solutions purely solutions.

So that's how you persuade. That's how you pull. That's how you bring closer. Can I teach you a few things? You guys

don't look curious. >> You know, your energy will affect my energy. I hope you know that.

>> Actually, you are the ones who will determine what I'll tell you. And you can write that down. The audience

determines what the speaker will say. One day I went to Maveno and those kids had been trained that when you come

closer to them, they come closer to you. So when you when you when when you when you when you come closer they all stand

and they come closer. A a these are kids who are 13 14. I spoke for 2 hours and I taught them on disruption things I don't

teach cuz that has never happened to me. They they were trained how to behave. So when you say something they stand up

they say yes sir. It looked like they were acting but it was working. So if you remain polite, there are

things I'll not tell you. You're the one who will determine what I'll tell you. And even right now as I'm telling you,

you're the one who will determine. Again, sir, >> back to the conversation. And also I saw

it in light nation when I went there. When familar stands, the whole church stands. I'm telling you, they all stand.

And then when he gets closer to them, when you go to light nation, you'll be shocked. People even sit on the floor.

Can you imagine? Someone is writing on the floor. Another one is lying down like Yani Henry. A guy is like this like

writing. So you imagine if you're a speaker, you see someone lying down writing. That's how much they have been

impacted. What will you tell that person? I'm telling you, write this down. In

communication, you decide what the other person will tell you. I want you to go and read a book called How to Know a

Person by David Brooks. There's a chapter that talks about listening, the art of listening. And there's a quote

there that says listening to a person is equivalent to giving them life. Listening to a person is equivalent to

giving giving them life. You must master the art of listening. For example, when you interviewing a

person on a podcast, you're not supposed to be saying, "Hm, yeah. Uh-huh." You're not supposed to do that. You you keep

quiet. You listen to them intentionally. You look at them in their eyes. You lock in. And then you don't just nod your

head. There's a way you n it strategically. You you allow them to listen. You listen to them

intentionally. You listen to them intentionally and then you show the excitement even

through your eyes. You must learn that thing. How do you listen to a person until they feel like you're listening to

them? You don't chew when you're talking to a person oneon one. You don't chew. You you ensure that you're not

distracted. You put your phone like this in a way that it will not distract your attention. You lock in

very small things but they matter. There's something that I was to tell you when I was seated here. What was I to

tell you? Thank you. I've remembered around power around power many times people are

familiar. Write that down. You see a new person who comes around Benu will

be very excited cuz they have not sat with me. They have not stayed with you. But now when the more people sit around

you they can develop a familiarity not that they want but it's it can just come. So

what happens many times when you come around power please many times when you come around power

the powerful person is there but the people around the person are casual. This will help you a lot. I want you to

go and study social media pages of ministries in this country, not ministry in terms of church, government. Have you

ever discovered when you go on Twitter, let's say search the ministry of ICT, you'll find their social media page has

one like come understand because the person who is a photographer

there is employed and and they are not under any pressure. Come understand. So any person mostly

people around power they get too familiar because [music] the closer you get to the sun it stops

becoming the sun. It burns you and you're not able to see it so clearly is a blindness that comes with power. So

you'll find many people get used to it. Now many powerful people are curious. They love new experiences.

So if you come with new energy there's a sense of access you'll get but you'll be fought by the people around

them understand for example this example Henry the battle between golath and

Israel you know how long it had lasted 40 days so by the time David is coming in the battlefield people are already

tired they are bought and they're like okay we already defeated every day they have been listening to golia telling

them I'll kill you I'll kill you so David came with freshness, energy, new perspective. That's what

Saul needed. So, one of your biggest keys around power will be new perspectives,

fresh energy, excited. When you go to most churches, you'll observe this pastor Anie. The

worshippers are normally a bit tired. [music] Most churches, they are tired.

And that's why if you're a leader, you must always find new ways to be motivating people. There are many ways

to motivate people [music] like just changing where you train them, changing where meetings are happening, changing

where conversions happening. Later we will talk about efficiency. Very small things but they matter a lot. [music]

But you realize that when David came, it's like him, he did not know what was happening. So let me say this,

try not to be educated [music] by the people who have been there before. Let's say you come and say right now you

want to change Kenya. Someone who tried it can tell you it doesn't work. Or let's say you want to help a great

person. Someone will tell you no we gave them an idea he did not listen. That person does not take feedback. [music]

You you okay you tried. So deliberately decide that you'll not be educated with those who have been in

the system before. Because you'll approach that person with their energy. You come with new energy.

You come with fresh ideas, come with fresh perspectives, come with an it is possible mentality.

It's called the Ephesians 3:20 mentality. What does Ephesians 3:20 say? God is able to do exceedingly abundantly

above what you can think or imagine according to the power that's at work in you. Always come with a fresh

perspective. Who has studied the pages of KBC lately? KBC on Facebook who has noticed that

something has changed. I was told that it's a Gen Z managing that page and [snorts] that Gen Z came in during World

Cup. So you'll see how that page is being managed and you'll say this one is not a

45-year-old millennial who studied mass communication because the millennial was taught to

talk a certain way, to come a certain way and that doesn't work. Have you seen social media pages nowadays on Tik Tok?

An official page can abuse you. LG worker. And you know this one is not a corporate person. This one is not a

corporate disciplined person. You see a page writing Samsung writing [music]

you think I'm your father. Yes. >> Yes. Even Dendry they will tell you ah. And you're like so you follow the page

because of that. You understand? >> So write this. Always be out of script

[music] a bit. Just be out of script. Don't behave like the people who already there behave. Don't dress up like the

way they dress. Be a bit different. Be a bit different. Go out of script. Go out of script. If you lose your flavor and

you stay on script, you lose relevance. For example, can I show you how David stayed out of script? He went out

outside the script. How did he do it? Anyone who can guess? He refused to fight with the weapon he

had been given. He refused the clothes. He said no. But he never refused it again immediately.

He refused it tactfully. >> Yeah. >> He he wore it then he said take it back.

You know people are asking me you've been appointed SG. We are waiting. I've refused to wear those clothes. I've

refused to fight with those weapons. [music] I'm introducing the sling. You'll see

it. I'm I'm doing it differently [applause] because I asked Henry, you can't expect

me to go and begin saying one time at there's a way I'll say it, but I'll not say it

that way. Yes, sir. Because this war is beyond one term. It's bigger than one term.

Same understood. Yeah. So I have that understanding and I know the politics of standing on top of cars. In as much as

it is powerful, there's even a very intense way to approach it. Hotter than standing before cars. [music]

So there's a way you look at it that way. Also be out of script. Even in dressing, be out [music] of script.

David first started by dressing. You don't dress like the people who are there. You can dress like their style

but dress up a bit different. [music] So even in suits I tell people break a

bit break some rules. Like you see the way it is dressed up it's formal but it's not formal but it's formal

like be interesting attract attention entice. There's a guy called Simon Lancaster.

We were so curious. We were so excited. And he only prayed for us for 2 minutes. But because of the hunger, those 2

minutes were enough. Can you imagine? We spent about 100,000, right? 100,000 to just go to be prayed for for 2 minutes.

If you saw us in the bus like we were so excited, so excited that m we've been prayed for for 2 minutes. Then Henry

told me we are not supposed to lose that. No matter we become we are not supposed to lose that. One day pastor T

was going to Makos and we followed him there. We did not have fair. We're in first year. But first we needed to get

there. Then we got there and pastor T was speaking and he was so excited. He finished speaking at around 12:00

a.m. and we did not have fair to go back. So he gave us fair. Then we arrived somewhere where there

are no motorbikes. So we had to walk from Ivon could know this place. This cement company. What is it? Bambburi. Is

it called Bambburi? Bambour. There's a cement company there. So we had to walk from there to school and

there areas in at literally I'm not even a story book like there areas there. And even a leopard has been seen before. So

imagine that revelation and you're walking on that road, but you were so excited. We did not care about the time.

All you wanted to see is pastor. One day you were leaving at the river. We took bikes. Every Thursday you were

not missing gathering of champions. We took bikes. There was so much dust. And [music] you've carried a whole bag on

your on your back. And and and remember on a motorbike you are four people because you not sure if you'll get

another bike. Four people seated um on a motorbike. the person who's riding and then three of you are seated there.

You're in two bikes and you carry a bag. You just want to go to gathering of champions. You arrive late. You don't

care whether there's a chair. You sit on the staircase and you're so excited and we agreed with Henry. Let's not lose

that. [music] There's a curiosity you're not supposed to lose. I remember the first Rama feast

since we knew that we do not have VIP access cuz we are not pastors. We arrived at the venue at 4:30 a.m. Can

you imagine 4:30 pastor Anjie and then we were in suits. So you're running in a suit. You're sweating at 4:00 a.m. And

then because people are so many, they were closing access especially in the VIP tent. So we entered the VIP tent. We

sneaked in cuz we wanted to see how Joshua Selman will enter and how he will walk. That's all we wanted to see even

before he preaches. So he said we must sit in a place where we will see him coming in. Then they usher asked us your

pastors of kingdom seekers. We see this and we passed and we sat there. See we are talking about navigating corridors

of power. IT STARTS THAT WAY. I'M JUST SHOWING you what we did IN THE OFFICE IS NOT WHAT we are doing in government.

Then we sat there and we in a suit cuz pastors dress in a suit. You must understand that language. Pastors dress

in a suit. So you're in a double bre suit. [music] Then we sat there and there were about 20 chairs of pastors of

kingdom seekers. So he told Andrew, you know, we are not pastors, right? Henry [music] said, "Yes." So when we see the

protocol coming, we close our eyes and we begin to pray and we pray so seriously that they

cannot stop you. So when we see the protocol coming, we just start. Thank you Jesus. Oh my God. Glory be to

God. Thank you so much for your power. Thank this place today. The presence shall move and then the protocol. We

pray for like 5 minutes and you close your eyes. Seriously, here you're not opening. The business does not require

you to open your eyes. You close your eyes. You look in the protocol goes. Then when you see another protocol

coming, you say, "Hallelujah. Thank you, Father. Have your way in this place. Have your way in this place." Until we

hear the event has started and the protocol cannot remove you. That's when now you sit there. And then when we see

AJS coming, we move closer. We jump one seat ahead. We jump another seat ahead. [music] By the time he's standing there,

we on the second row and we act as protocol. We act like a welcoming people and you stand there until the time for

praying comes. And then when bishops are leaving, remember now you have become a protocol. You live with bishops and you

enter the VVP room. That's how we learned. [applause]

[music] Many things that you want in life, you don't qualify for them yet. Write them

down. you don't qualify them. Before God's eyes, you qualify, but before men's

eyes, [music] you don't qualify yet. So, you must find your own way of getting into those spaces. You must find your

own way of getting into those spaces because men will not just hand you will not just hand over things to you and

say, "Here they are. Take it." And you just say, "Wow, Benny, I want to be president." They

say, "Wow, Benny, we've been waiting for you. Please come." Oh my god, just come and lead us. It doesn't work that way.

I like asking people, look at the kind of greatness that you want to carry and ask yourself, what will fight me? And

also, who will fight me? Who will fight me? Ask yourself that question. What beyond the devil? Who will fight me? Who

will fight me? We've already written a list of everyone who we think will run in 2042.

With Henry, we've written that list. Who will run in 2042? And we even know who in our generation will be against us at

that time. We say this one will be against us. We need to win them now before that time comes. That's how it

works. You must think of who will be against me. It's called the it's called what? The worst what is it

called? Worst case scenario. Always think on worst case scenario. Don't be pessimistic. Worst case scenario. Worst

case scenario for example is right now. How can you die? If you to die today, what would kill you? Number one, you'll

get an accident because you're in a mat. You don't determine whether the driver is drunk or not. Just think. She watched

10,000 ways to die. The same thing. Think what would kill you right now? Just ask yourself that. Electricity is a

pig shock. No, when you think based on worst case scenario, you now counter it. Vice versa. What would people use

against me? If today you are a blogger and you want to make yourself trend any negative news, what what would you use

against yourself? Think that way. What would someone use against me? If you think like that, you'll move cautiously

but also with intentionality and wisdom. [music] Lastly,

then we pray the other people can move at the back. Then I remain with Randy.

The problem is not access. The problem is why do I want this access? That's the biggest question you [music] should

answer. I'll give you a scripture. John 1:6 says there was a man sent from God to become

a witness. We are not looking for this access so that you can be rich. P wealth comes as a byproduct of access.

But the main thing is not what we will get [music] from the access. In fact, I'll tell you this.

Whatever makes God or helps God to help you get access is your your cry. The cry in your heart of

why do I want this access? Why do I want this access? That's what makes God give you the access.

Why do you want it? Why do you want it? Why do you want it? And that's even the

question I'm asking all of you right now. Why do you want it? Why do you want to be so great? Why do you want the

influence? The problem is not getting it. I don't know if I have I can get off a towel. The problem is not getting it.

The problem is why. The why question must be answered. Why do you want it?

Let me show you something. [music] One day I knelt in my room.

I was in Lakis sama. That's where Henry and the whole team found me. I was in a bed seat. This is 2023.

I knelt in that room. I was listening to a sermon called the singing eye, the Apostle Joshua Salman,

[music] and I was I was in tears and I was just saying, God,

you can give me a generation, give me the influence, give me wisdom. But I remember there's a word I said

that almost opened the heavens and I can remember the exact word. I told God, give me a generation then I'll give them

to you. E I was in my room. I was just praying.

But all of a sudden it's like there's a heavy cloud that came in that room and there was so much presence. So much

presence. [music] So much presence I could not even move. I was alone. No one was there. [music]

I told God, "Give me a generation, then me, I'll give them back to you." It was in 2023.

After that sermon, he said, [music] "Number one, I'll not give you money. I'll give you wisdom." That anytime you

stand before these people to [music] speak, they will listen to you. And then number two, I'll give you divine

solutions. [music] And then number three, I'll give you power. Power is not just for falling down. Acts 6:10 [music]

says, "No one could resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spoke." I'm going to give you [music] five

scriptures about power in relation to speaking. Acts 6:10, that's the first scripture. No one could resist the

wisdom and the spirit [music] by which he spoke. Number two, Colossians 4:6, [music] let

your words be full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to speak to [music] each and everyone.

Number three, Proverbs 22:11, "A man with [music] purity of heart and gracious sleeps, the king shall be his

friend." Number four, [music] Luke 12:12, "The Holy Spirit shall give you words to say at that very specific

time." Number five, Luke 21:15, [music] I'll give you a mouth and wisdom that no

one shall be able to resist. [music] to to answer your question when it comes to access when [music] it comes to

talking to these people. They will not just listen to you like that. [music] Imagine meeting someone like Vousy who

meets so many people every day. What will make them remember you? Imagine meeting someone like a

president. What will make them remember you? Every day they're listening to people, meeting [music] people. meaning

you need something that's beyond English. That's where the Holy Spirit [music]

comes in. Cuz imagine how do you talk to a person and they tell you what you're saying? I

was thinking about it yesterday. [music] How do you talk to a person and they say that's like right now there are things

I'm saying that you talked [music] this morning or you thought about yesterday. So how are you able to talk to a person

and they say in fact that's what I was thinking [music] about the first time the migunas they here

with us [music] they took me to see bishop cathic yuna she will tell you bishop cathic was leaving the office and

we were told you have 5 minutes with her we sat there for 1 hour 30 minutes [music] and she said by Wednesday this

week I'm interviewing you no woman without limits so What is that that you can have that

even when people are busy, they will [music] listen to you? Because that's the conversation. The

problem is not meeting these people. [music] The problem is being able to talk and they listen. The problem is

being able to talk and they don't forget you. The problem is being able to talk and they respond [music] swiftly.

Meeting them, you'll meet them. No one has a challenge in meeting great people. [music] you can access them but getting

to their hearts is another whole matrix and that's why I [music] want us to pray number one why do you want the access

[music] the why will determine Matthews 6:33 says seek ye the kingdom [music] and all these things shall come why why

do you want it there's a time I think I I had lost my why of meeting these

people and I did not know it but I just realized [music] the there's there's a why I've lost it.

There's a time we used to do events like these [music] ones. I was only 1920.

There's an event we did that had 3,000 people. [music] 3,000. We did not even have a budget.

Can you imagine? Can you imagine doing an event of 3,000 people on a budget of 14,000 [music]

and young people came 3,000 by 11:00 a.m. [music] Can you imagine? By 11:00 a.m. 3,000

people came. We did not even think about budget or sponsorship. There was no food. Those guys sat from 8:00 a.m.

[music] to 8:00 p.m. Rev. Julian came at around 7:00 p.m. when the event is ending [music] and cleared the balance

of the vendors. We did not and we have not been assured that someone will come and clear the

[music] ballots. As we were just moving in obedience after that event [music] someone came

and told me that you know if you create a structure you know you can begin receiving funding.

You can begin receiving funding and people can give you money. Just look at all these people. Imagine

you're attracting all these people to you sit this [music] imagine you are attracting all these

young people. Imagine if you just went to Safariccom and they gave you [music] money. You have numbers and then after

that we now began writing proposals. Then we said let's stop doing events [music] until the time we have a budget.

let's stop writing these proposals until the time we have a budget. Then we slowed down on those events. [music]

We started looking for money and people looked for us. By the way, members of parliament began looking for us. Very

key people. And then we saw even there's a big opportunity now. That means we can

access more resources to [music] continue doing these things we do. And we stopped.

We began meeting a lot of great people. a lot of them key people but there's something we had lost

then that's how we formed a company we registered the OB consultancy we say I I told myself let me first make money

and then after making money in fact we'll have more money to do events for free we'll now be a blessing to these

people in the process of that In 2024, we lost something.

We [snorts] could do kesas at night. 76 young people would come in an estate. [music] We prayed until we were chased

away. Then we said because we've been chased away, let's remove these cashers

cuz you know we have to be corporate. So we brought in the corporate, brought in structures and said we are a

corporate organization. Let's just have public speaking academy [music] and then we'll charge people and then

what the money we make it will be even easy to do missions [music] and God allowed me to see certain things

to handle certain things and one day I was seated in the car and I looked at my life

you are 24 your followers there is a car there's a everything

but I was more happier at 19 when those things were not there but the impact was happening

and I said God I would rather lose all these things but go back to those days

it's very easy to lose yourself and trying to help God does not need your help I'm saying that

because some of you used to do things for free used to do charity There are things you used to do even

when you do not have the money, you had the faith. But now when you look at yourself, you've lost that part. And

when you lose the why, you can be next to the king, but you've lost your why. You'll still be empty.

Now, here we are. We've started again. We've started again. We started again.

>> [applause] [music] >> I'm saying that because it's easy to

lose momentum. That's because of small things. Yesterday, we were [clears throat] to

cancel this event cuz whatever we being charged, the venue, all those things, I just looked

at it, the budget is hitting almost 1.5. I was like, I don't have that money. But God was like, "No, me did not tell

you to do the event because you had money. You do it." So he changed the venue. Chained the venue. Made a few

calls. [applause] And this is what the person who gave me this venue told me.

Still had to pay for it. But the person says, "I'm going to support you partially." But this is what the person

said. The person said this. He said, "There's a young girl who has come to work under me and she's so good." And I

asked the girl, "Who trained you? It's not normal for you to talk the way you're talking, do

the things you're doing." And then the girl said, "I I was I sat and I've been Hinn for 6 months. I worked as his

executive assistant." And the guy told me because of that girl I'm giving you [music] the auditorium.

[applause] And I've now discovered something and I've come to a conclusion that

[music] as long as you just keep making impact these things will find you. Don't forget

what I've told you. Why do you want the access? Why do you want the masters? Why do you want to go to UK? that the why

don't lose it and the why is not about you sometimes I sit down and I look at the many people who are supposed to be

impacted the many can you imagine when I'm going let's say to Nigeria or to Uganda to meet a [music] person because

maybe I need them to pray with me maybe I need to access certain graces or there's an level of exposure I [music]

need whatever is always in my mind is this picture I always see a sea of young people like in a stadium

and I see them holding one hand on their head and it's like they are praying they're asking God give us something

bigger. So when I'm going that's a picture that is in my mind when I kneel down for people to pray for me or when I

meet any great person my joy is that because I've accessed them there's a young person whose life will change

forever. [music] When I'm going to access anointings, I see it as a gift that I'll come back to

Kenya going to high school where a young person will never know or po. But when I meet them, they have met Oropo. That's

how I look at it. When I meet a person in government, I look at how many people will access opportunities. Many people

are going to access opportunities. When I'm when I make money, I see how many venues are going to be paid.

My instruction in life is that [music] I should not charge for events. So I don't I don't know how to charge for

events. [music] I don't know these events. If I would have charged,

you would have paid. But the instruction was move

me. I'll find my own way to balance the equation. And he [music] does. He's a faithful God. He has never stopped

the why. You don't lose the why. You don't lose the why. Why am I meeting these people? When the why is so big,

there's nothing that he can't give you. He'll give you people. He'll give you the influence. [music]

You must get the why accurately. Accurately. Every time I see luck, sometimes it's

that the why might have been [music] lost. So I go back to the why. Why did you give me these influence? Why do I

have access to these people? Why do these young people follow us? Why? Why are they so hungry? When you

answer the why, everything else comes. [music] Pray for 2 minutes. The why. Everyone

pray. [music] The why. Pray. Go back.

[music] You know, you'll pray and you'll know that you are praying. You you'll know

it. [music] You feel free to stand if you would want. You feel like kneeling but you

just pray for 2 minutes. Well, the problem is not navigating corridors [music] of power. Problem is the why.

The why. Why did you start the company? Cuz you can lose on the why. Why? [music] Why have you given me so much,

so much trust, so much influence? [music] >> [music]

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[music] [music] >> Can't [music] hear you praying the why.

The problem is not the access [music] but why why do you want it? Why do you want it? [music]

Why? Why do you want it? Why do you want it? [music]

[music] [music] >> [music]

>> We have minister at the border. [music] [music]

Now why pray? Pray. Why do you want influence? [music] Why do you want access?

Once you get the why right, [music] everything else follows. You deserve the glory. [music]

[music] You deserve the glory and the honor.

Lord, we lift our hands in worship [sighs and gasps] as we bless your holy name.

You deserve the gloryy and the honor. Lord, we lift our hands in worship

as we bless your holy name. You deserve the gloryy and the [screaming] honor.

Lord, we lift our hands in worship. [gasps] As we bless you, you deserve the glory [screaming]

you deserve. You can just stand up. and the honor and the honor.

Lord, we lift our hands in worship [gasps] as we bless. You deserve the glory. You deserve

>> and the honor. [screaming] Lord, we lift our hands. Lord, we lift our hands in worship

[gasps] as we bless. For you are great. [screaming] You are great.

You do miracles. [screaming] So there is no one. There is none [screaming] else like

you. [gasps] You great. You do miracles

of grace. There is no one else like you. There is none.

There is none [screaming] else. You grace. You do mirales.

There is [singing] no one else like [music] you. >> There is no one else. There is [singing]

no [music] one else. >> Jesus, you are great. >> You [singing] don't.

[music] >> There is [singing] no one else like [music] you. Come on, sing it out there.

>> There is [singing] no one. >> There is [music] no >> You [singing] are great.

You are great. [music] You're the miracle. [singing] So great.

There is no one else [music] like you. There is no [singing]

There is [music] no like you. for the water

[singing] there. But I s my [singing] soul longe. [singing]

You [singing] alone are my heart desire

and alone [singing] to worship you [singing]

[music] as the dear ponteth for as [singing] pedest for.

Thought I s [singing] [screaming] you. [singing]

You alone. You [singing] are alone [music] are my heart

desire and I long [singing and music] to worship

[music] you. Lift up your hand. God, thank you. [music]

Because problem is not access but the why. May we never lose the why.

Maybe you never lose the why. The why. May the why be so clear. So clear that no matter who we meet.

I'm saying this because let me tell you something. Some of you are going to meet presidents and not just Kenyan president

or African president. You'll find yourself in a room with a prime minister of Russia.

And you'll ask yourself, how did I get here? But let the why be so clear. Let the why be so clear. Let the why be so

clear. Just open up your mouth for one minute and pray. May the why be so clear.

You know you people are not praying. It can look like a very simple prayer but it's not simple. That's why you think

I'm telling you to like pray intentionally otherwise be so clear. Tell God open my eyes. May I not go

before these people because of my bills. They'll be beyond bills. A beyond beyond myself beyond survival.

>> [music] >> The why, the why,

[music] the why for that access. [music] >> [music]

[music] >> The why you know you'll pray and it will be

answered. He will show you a picture, show you orphanages, show you orphans, show you

windows, people who've been called to help. The why, [music]

the why. Now ask God for the what. What should I say when I'm in that presence? [music]

Tell God to give you wisdom. Tell God to give you weight. Tell God to give you clarity of thought.

>> [music] >> H you guys pray even more. So much needs to be released.

[music] Pray. Pray. [music] Pray for wisdom. Pray for

utterance. Pray for conviction. You don't need 10 meetings. One meeting can change your life. Heat. Heat.

Heat. [music] Heat. >> [music]

>> Power [music] speaking. Speaking

[music] of [music]

Heat. Heat. [music] Heat. Heat. [music]

[music] Heat. [music]

HEAT. YEAH. [music]

Come on. by the art of speaking, the wisdom of speaking, the anointing