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English Speaking Practice: From Awkward to Confident in Real Conversations

English Speaking Practice: From Awkward to Confident in Real Conversations

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[00:01]

Hey there highle listeners. Welcome

[00:03]

back. We're back with another English

[00:05]

conversation and spoken English class so

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you can learn real small talk with two

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real English teachers today. Let's make

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some friends and get to know people a

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little bit better. If you're practicing

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speaking English more fluently at home,

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you can shadow and practice with us.

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>> Yes, absolutely. Hi everyone. Thanks for

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joining us here on High Level Listening

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and we want to help you build your

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confidence and your fluency in real

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English conversations and with real

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speaking. I'm Mark from the UK and like

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always you can follow along if you want

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to study British English and if you

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prefer American English, you can follow

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me. So we'll show you some great

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questions you can ask people and some

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easy naturally spoken questions that

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will keep the conversation going in full

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and natural English dialogues.

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Yes. Uh, one last thing. If you want to

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get all these conversation transcripts,

[00:58]

vocabulary lists, and a dictionary in

[01:01]

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download by joining us as a vocabulary

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member and checking the community. We'll

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post a link in there.

[01:21]

Okay, so let's hear our first

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conversation. You're talking to a

[01:25]

co-orker or a colleague at work and you

[01:28]

want to get to know them a little bit

[01:29]

better. Maybe this is during your lunch

[01:31]

break or you're at a work event or maybe

[01:33]

after work drinks. So, I'll start the

[01:36]

conversation.

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So, Mark, what do you usually do outside

[01:39]

of work?

[01:41]

>> Uh, I actually run a small baking

[01:43]

business from home on the weekends.

[01:45]

>> No way, really. Oh, that's really

[01:47]

interesting. How did you get into that?

[01:51]

>> Well, uh, it started as a hobby during

[01:53]

lockdown and then friends began placing

[01:56]

orders.

[01:57]

>> That's great. Do you still enjoy it even

[02:00]

now that it's a business?

[02:03]

>> Yeah, maybe even more now, especially

[02:05]

when people come back for more.

[02:08]

>> That's really cool. That must keep you

[02:09]

super busy.

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So, let's go through it line by line so

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we can help you with some of these

[02:14]

phrases. This would be a good time to

[02:16]

practice your spoken English because you

[02:18]

can repeat after me and I'll go a little

[02:20]

bit slower.

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The first line, so what do you usually

[02:25]

do outside of work?

[02:27]

So, what do you usually do outside of

[02:30]

work? This is a good question to kind of

[02:33]

get to know somebody a little bit better

[02:35]

outside of work. Because if I say, "What

[02:38]

do you usually do?" It sounds like what?

[02:40]

Uh, I type on the computer. I go to

[02:42]

meetings. I network. Oh, I meant outside

[02:44]

of work, right? So, that's a good

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question to ask.

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>> The response was, I actually run a small

[02:50]

baking business from home on the

[02:53]

weekends.

[02:54]

So, yes, I'm telling Cat what I do that

[02:57]

is not my regular job. I think that

[03:00]

maybe this is surprising or interesting.

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So, actually, I actually run a small

[03:06]

baking business. Maybe again I think

[03:09]

that's not what cat would expect or

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maybe it's a little bit unusual. So if

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you have a funny or an interesting story

[03:15]

actually I actually run a small baking

[03:18]

business from home on the weekends

[03:22]

because Mark used some the word

[03:24]

actually. I'm kind of hearing for

[03:26]

something and then oh that is

[03:28]

interesting. No way really. So this

[03:32]

shows that I'm interested in Mark's

[03:34]

conversation. No way really. Really?

[03:37]

That's a good way to show that I'm

[03:40]

listening to Mark and I'm interested.

[03:42]

And then on top of that, no way really.

[03:45]

That's really interesting.

[03:47]

Now, sometimes we say interesting

[03:50]

or we can say interesting.

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That's really interesting. Now, I want

[03:56]

to keep the conversation going. How did

[03:58]

you get into that? This is a very simple

[04:02]

way to say how did you start doing that?

[04:06]

How did you get into that? How did you

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get into that?

[04:11]

>> Well, it started as a hobby during

[04:13]

lockdown and then friends began placing

[04:16]

orders.

[04:18]

So, Cat asked, "How did you get into

[04:21]

that? How did you start?" It started or

[04:25]

the business, the idea started as a

[04:28]

hobby. So, I only did it for fun and it

[04:31]

started during lockdown. Lockdown is

[04:34]

that COVID period where you couldn't go

[04:36]

outside. And then friends began placing

[04:39]

orders. Placing orders. They started

[04:41]

ordering. They wanted more of my

[04:44]

cookies, pastries, bread, the things I

[04:47]

sell.

[04:48]

That's great. Do you still enjoy it even

[04:51]

now that it's a business?

[04:54]

This is kind of a good conversational

[04:55]

topic because I feel like our

[04:57]

generation, we always want to make

[04:58]

money. Uh, so sometimes we turn our

[05:01]

passions or our hobbies into a

[05:03]

money-making machine. So I would say,

[05:05]

"Wow, that's great." Again, I'm hearing

[05:08]

I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm

[05:10]

listening, right? Oh, that's great. Do

[05:12]

you still enjoy it? Do you still enjoy

[05:15]

it? So if someone is a likes painting

[05:18]

and starts to sell their paintings, or

[05:20]

if someone does some video editing for

[05:23]

fun and then turns it into a job, do you

[05:25]

still enjoy it even now that it's a

[05:28]

business?

[05:30]

Yeah, maybe even more now, especially

[05:32]

when people come back for more.

[05:35]

So, yes, as Cat said, if you turn a

[05:37]

hobby into a business, sometimes it

[05:40]

stops becoming fun because it becomes a

[05:42]

job. And when there's money involved, it

[05:44]

can change your relationship with it.

[05:46]

But actually, yeah, even more now. I

[05:51]

enjoy it even more now. So, I enjoy the

[05:55]

hobby or enjoy my baking business more

[05:58]

than before when it was a hobby.

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Especially when people come back for

[06:02]

more. So, people try my pastries, they

[06:06]

love them, and then they come back.

[06:07]

That's very satisfying.

[06:09]

>> I was actually almost going to use that

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in the script. I said, "Oh, that must be

[06:13]

really satisfying."

[06:15]

>> So, that would be a natural way if you

[06:17]

had told me that. Or I could say

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something like, "Oh, that's really cool.

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That must keep you super busy. Now, you

[06:24]

might kind of notice that as I'm

[06:26]

becoming more and more friends with

[06:28]

Mark, I'm becoming a little bit more

[06:30]

casual. So, I started out with, "Oh,

[06:33]

that's really interesting. That sounds

[06:35]

like a little bit more formal." But by

[06:37]

the end, I said, "Wow, that's really

[06:39]

cool." And the word cool is very casual.

[06:42]

It's, you know, that's really nice. Oh,

[06:44]

that's really cool. It's because we're

[06:46]

sort of learning a little bit more about

[06:48]

each other and we're becoming a bit more

[06:50]

acquainted. Okay. So, that's really

[06:53]

cool. That must keep you super busy.

[06:57]

That must keep you super busy. I mean,

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he's got work that we normally know each

[07:01]

other 9 to5, 40 hours a week, and he's

[07:04]

got this extra job as well. That must

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keep you super busy is also a really

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good way to keep the conversation going.

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If someone is telling you about

[07:14]

something interesting, a hobby, a

[07:16]

business, you can say, "Oh, that must be

[07:20]

interesting." Or, "That must be fun.

[07:23]

That must be hard. Oh, that must be

[07:26]

unusual." If you want to comment on what

[07:29]

someone's saying and just keep the

[07:30]

conversation going, that must be is a

[07:34]

really good way to do it.

[07:36]

>> And remember that that must is kind of

[07:38]

like saying I'm sure. Oh, I'm sure. that

[07:41]

keeps you super busy. Oh, that must keep

[07:44]

you super busy. All right, let's hear

[07:47]

that conversation all the way through

[07:48]

once more at the regular speed.

[07:51]

>> Hey, Mark. So, what do you usually do

[07:53]

outside of work?

[07:55]

>> I actually run a small baking business

[07:57]

from home on the weekends.

[08:00]

>> No way. Really? That's really

[08:01]

interesting. How did you get into that?

[08:04]

>> Well, it started as a hobby during

[08:06]

lockdown and then friends began placing

[08:09]

orders.

[08:10]

Oh, that's great. Do you still enjoy it

[08:12]

even now that it's a business?

[08:15]

>> Yeah, maybe even more now. Especially

[08:17]

when people come back for more.

[08:20]

>> That's really cool. That must keep you

[08:22]

super busy.

[08:26]

>> Okay, let's move on to the second

[08:28]

conversation. Again, we're trying to get

[08:30]

to know people a bit better. Maybe you

[08:33]

already know who they are, where they're

[08:34]

from, and what they do, but you want to

[08:36]

just go a bit deeper. So imagine that

[08:38]

you get invited into someone's home for

[08:41]

dinner or just for a get together and

[08:43]

then of course that's a great

[08:44]

opportunity to get to know the host or

[08:46]

other people a little bit better. Let's

[08:48]

go through a conversation.

[08:51]

You've got such a beautiful home. How

[08:53]

long have you lived around here?

[08:55]

>> Well, about 3 years now, but I only

[08:58]

finished the garden and the balcony last

[09:00]

month.

[09:01]

>> Okay. Did you do all the work yourself?

[09:05]

>> Most of it. I had to learn it on the go,

[09:07]

mostly from YouTube.

[09:09]

>> Well, yeah, that's impressive. Was it a

[09:11]

lot of work?

[09:13]

>> Definitely. But it was worth it to

[09:15]

finally have a place to sit outside.

[09:18]

>> Okay, so let's go through that

[09:19]

conversation one more time. A very nice

[09:22]

complimentary thing you can say when you

[09:25]

visit someone else's home is, "Wow,

[09:27]

you've got such a beautiful home." Or,

[09:31]

"This is a beautiful home." Beautiful

[09:34]

and home often come together. It's a

[09:37]

compliment that people love to hear and

[09:39]

it's an easy one you can say when you

[09:41]

visit someone's house. Maybe they have a

[09:43]

nice decoration. Maybe it's quite

[09:45]

spacious or comfortable. Nice furniture

[09:48]

and lots of nice comfortable things.

[09:50]

They've got such a beautiful home. How

[09:53]

long have you lived around here?

[09:56]

How long have you lived around here?

[09:58]

It's a way to keep the conversation

[10:00]

going. How many years or how much time

[10:03]

have you been in this house? It's

[10:07]

unusual because if I say, "How long have

[10:10]

you been in this house?" That sounds

[10:13]

kind of weird. It sounds like I'm very

[10:15]

interested in where you live

[10:17]

specifically. But to make that a bit

[10:20]

more softer and a bit more friendlier,

[10:22]

around here, we'll make it less

[10:25]

specific. How long have you lived around

[10:28]

here? is in this neighborhood or in this

[10:31]

area. So, we soften the question a

[10:34]

little bit so it's not so personal or

[10:36]

invasive. So, you've got such a

[10:39]

beautiful home. How long have you lived

[10:41]

around here?

[10:43]

>> 3 years now, but I only finished the

[10:46]

garden and the balcony last month. Okay,

[10:49]

so I didn't actually give a full

[10:51]

sentence. He asked me, "How long have

[10:53]

you lived around here?" And I could say,

[10:55]

"I've lived around here about 3 years."

[10:59]

But I kind we we know that's the that's

[11:01]

the answer. So I'm going to drop this

[11:03]

the subject and the verb and I'm just

[11:05]

going to say, "Yeah, about 3 years now."

[11:09]

About four years now. Meaning up until

[11:13]

this point, it's been 3 years. Right?

[11:16]

It's been 3 years. But I only finished

[11:19]

the garden and the balcony last month.

[11:22]

It's really funny how often if you have

[11:24]

your own home, it is funny. We always

[11:27]

like to talk about the upgrades or the

[11:29]

things that we're working on to make the

[11:30]

house even better. And it is a good way

[11:33]

to continue the conversation. It's like,

[11:35]

"Oh, uh, we just upgraded the kitchen or

[11:39]

we just got this new patio set or I just

[11:42]

found this beautiful art piece for the

[11:44]

wall." We always like to continue the

[11:46]

conversation a little bit like that. So

[11:49]

I said, "But I only finished the garden

[11:52]

and the balcony last month, so that's

[11:53]

something new for my house."

[11:56]

>> I said, "Oh, did you do all the work

[11:59]

yourself?"

[12:01]

Cat said, "I only finished the garden

[12:04]

and balcony." So, wow. Okay. Did you do

[12:08]

all the work yourself? Again, some

[12:11]

people like to DIY, do it yourself, buy

[12:15]

the tools and fix or upgrade or build

[12:18]

something by themselves to save money or

[12:21]

just because they enjoy it. So, if you

[12:23]

think someone has done some renovations

[12:25]

or upgrades on their own, did you do all

[12:29]

the work yourself? I sound impressed by

[12:32]

this because I said yourself. Did you do

[12:35]

that yourself? Did you do all this

[12:38]

yourself? If you're impressed by

[12:40]

someone's handiwork or their skill or

[12:42]

their effort, you can uh emphasize that

[12:45]

you're impressed. Did you do all the

[12:46]

work yourself? Wow.

[12:49]

>> And it is a really good way to be

[12:51]

impressed because I I'm proud of the

[12:53]

work that I did. So, I want to share

[12:55]

that I was very handy myself and I did

[12:58]

it myself. And so, I said, "Yeah, most

[13:01]

of it. I had to learn it on the go,

[13:03]

mostly from YouTube."

[13:06]

So, usually DIY things, you think you're

[13:08]

going to start a project and it's going

[13:10]

to be so easy, but I had to learn it on

[13:13]

the go, which means that anytime I had a

[13:16]

problem, I had to go to YouTube and then

[13:18]

there's the next problem. Oh gosh, I've

[13:20]

got to go back to YouTube. So, I learned

[13:21]

it on the go. I didn't study beforehand.

[13:25]

When I had a problem, I solved that

[13:27]

problem. So, I learned it on the go

[13:29]

mostly from YouTube.

[13:31]

>> That's impressive. Was it a lot of work?

[13:34]

So again before, did you do all the work

[13:36]

yourself? I sound impressed and then I

[13:40]

actually said it. That's impressive.

[13:43]

So I'm impressed. But that's impressive.

[13:46]

The work is impressive. Was it a lot of

[13:50]

work? As in, did you have to do a lot of

[13:54]

things? Did it take a lot of time? Was

[13:57]

it a lot of work? I'm trying to get Cat

[14:00]

to say more about her project.

[14:03]

>> Definitely. But it was worth it to

[14:05]

finally have a place to sit outside.

[14:08]

Okay. So, I am kind of leading into kind

[14:10]

of the end of the conversation, but we

[14:13]

could probably still pick it up. It was

[14:15]

worth it. So, was it a lot of work? Yes.

[14:19]

But it was worth it. Meaning, all that

[14:21]

work, I got a good reward, right? It was

[14:24]

worth it to finally have a place to sit

[14:25]

outside. If Mark wanted to continue this

[14:28]

conversation, he's like, "Oh, I

[14:29]

absolutely love it. It's so nice out

[14:31]

here." and you would just kind of keep

[14:33]

talking like that. So, that would be

[14:34]

very interesting.

[14:36]

>> So, we'll go through the conversation

[14:37]

once more. You've got such a beautiful

[14:40]

home. How long have you lived around

[14:42]

here?

[14:43]

>> About 3 years now, but I only finished

[14:45]

the garden and the balcony last month.

[14:48]

>> Oh, wow. Okay. Did you do all the work

[14:50]

yourself?

[14:52]

>> Most of it. I had to learn a lot on the

[14:54]

go, mostly from YouTube.

[14:57]

>> Wow, that's impressive. Was it a lot of

[14:59]

work?

[15:00]

Definitely. But it was worth it to

[15:02]

finally have a place to sit outside.

[15:08]

All right. So, the last conversation

[15:10]

that we have is a good way to talk about

[15:12]

your hobbies and your interests,

[15:14]

especially if you're taking a class

[15:16]

together or someone is talking to you

[15:18]

about their hobbies. Now, this one is

[15:20]

going to be Mark and I are at a painting

[15:23]

class. Now, this might be new for both

[15:25]

of us or it's our second or third

[15:27]

painting class and we keep seeing each

[15:29]

other.

[15:30]

So, I say to Mark, "So, what got you

[15:34]

into painting?"

[15:36]

>> Uh, I guess I just needed something to

[15:38]

switch off from work.

[15:40]

>> Yeah, that makes sense. Is it something

[15:42]

you do every day?

[15:45]

>> I wish. I I usually just find time on

[15:47]

the weekends, if that.

[15:49]

>> Yeah, fair enough. What kind of stuff do

[15:51]

you usually paint?

[15:53]

>> Uh, mostly landscapes, though, I'm not

[15:56]

very good at trees yet.

[15:58]

All right. So, it's kind of interesting

[16:00]

because Mark's not really giving me a

[16:02]

lot to go on, so I'm I keep asking

[16:05]

questions, trying to get more out of it,

[16:07]

right?

[16:07]

>> In the middle of painting.

[16:09]

>> So, yeah, exactly. So, uh that's okay

[16:12]

though. Um let's start with the first

[16:14]

question. What got you into painting?

[16:18]

Meaning, how did you start liking

[16:22]

painting? What got you into painting?

[16:25]

You could say, "What got you into

[16:27]

exercise?" or "What got you into

[16:29]

cycling?" or "What got you into healthy

[16:32]

eating?" So, you can use this for almost

[16:34]

any hobby, any interest. And it's a very

[16:37]

good way to ask, "How did you start

[16:39]

doing that? That's so interesting. What

[16:41]

got you into painting?"

[16:43]

>> I guess I needed something to switch off

[16:45]

from work, I guess. So, maybe I haven't

[16:49]

really thought about it. Or maybe no

[16:51]

one's asked me that before. Uh, I guess

[16:54]

I needed something to switch off from

[16:57]

work. To switch off means I can clear my

[17:00]

mind and don't think about it. Maybe my

[17:03]

job or my work is really busy and

[17:05]

hectic, but painting is relaxing and

[17:08]

calming and I'm not thinking about work

[17:11]

while I'm painting. So, I just need

[17:13]

something to switch off from work.

[17:17]

>> That makes sense. Is it something you do

[17:19]

every day?

[17:20]

So, I'm agreeing with Mark. That makes

[17:23]

sense. Meaning, I understand. That's

[17:26]

logical. That makes sense. Is it

[17:29]

something you do every day?

[17:31]

A lot of people when they do their

[17:33]

hobbies, they might want to do it. Uh,

[17:35]

or they're very good at it. So, maybe

[17:37]

you think, "Oh, is it something you do

[17:39]

every day?"

[17:40]

>> I wish. I usually just find time on the

[17:43]

weekends, if that.

[17:46]

So, I wish. Yeah. So, I don't do it

[17:49]

every day, unfortunately. But I wish I

[17:54]

wish I could. I wish I could paint every

[17:56]

day. But I usually just find time on the

[18:00]

weekends. Like find time. Maybe I have

[18:04]

to schedule it or I have to stop or

[18:07]

avoid doing other things to make time on

[18:10]

the weekends. If that. So, sometimes

[18:13]

there are weekends where I can't do it.

[18:16]

Maybe some weekends I'm still busy doing

[18:18]

errands or taking care of family. So I

[18:21]

usually just find time on the weekends

[18:23]

if that.

[18:25]

>> Fair enough. What kind of stuff do you

[18:27]

usually paint?

[18:29]

>> So Mark is giving me a little bit more.

[18:32]

A little bit more. So I'm still

[18:33]

interested. So um I'm kind of saying

[18:37]

these phrases that makes sense. Fair

[18:40]

enough. These are a little bit more

[18:41]

neutral. So, I'm not like impressed by

[18:44]

his answers and I'm not giving him

[18:46]

really positive feedback. Oh, fair

[18:49]

enough. Fair enough is a good way to say

[18:52]

that Mark kind of gave me a little bit

[18:54]

of a negative answer. You know, oh, I

[18:57]

usually find the time on the weekends if

[18:58]

that, right? He's disappointed. He

[19:00]

doesn't have enough time. So, I just

[19:02]

said fair enough. It's kind of similar

[19:05]

to that makes sense or I understand.

[19:08]

It's oh, I know how you feel. I

[19:10]

understand that happens. We get busy,

[19:12]

like you said. Fair enough. What kind of

[19:15]

stuff do you usually paint? Now, we

[19:17]

could say, "What kind of things?" But

[19:20]

we're getting a little more casual here.

[19:22]

So, what kind of stuff do you usually

[19:24]

paint? We could even use this with what

[19:26]

kind of stuff do you usually read? What

[19:29]

kind of stuff do you usually like? Uh

[19:33]

things like that. We can use that word

[19:34]

stuff, which means things in different

[19:37]

activities as well.

[19:39]

Uh, mostly landscapes, though I'm not

[19:42]

very good at trees yet.

[19:44]

So, what kind of stuff do you usually

[19:46]

paint? Mostly landscapes. Landscapes is

[19:49]

paintings of nature, trees, fields,

[19:52]

gardens. Though, I'm not very good at

[19:55]

trees yet. Though, or but I'm not very

[19:58]

good at painting trees yet. Maybe that's

[20:02]

why I'm taking the class to learn how to

[20:04]

paint trees.

[20:05]

All right. So, let's go ahead and listen

[20:08]

to the conversation once more.

[20:10]

>> So, Mark, what got you into painting?

[20:14]

>> Uh, I guess I needed something to switch

[20:16]

off from work.

[20:18]

>> That makes sense. Is it something you do

[20:20]

every day?

[20:22]

>> Oh, I wish. I usually just find time on

[20:24]

the weekends, if that.

[20:27]

>> Fair enough. What kind of stuff do you

[20:29]

usually paint?

[20:31]

uh mostly landscapes, though we're not

[20:33]

very good at trees yet.

[20:38]

>> Okay, so we've got some extra phrases

[20:40]

for you guys um after all of the

[20:41]

dialogues. This just might help you uh

[20:43]

to have a little bit of a list in case

[20:45]

you want to get to know people better,

[20:47]

keep the conversation going.

[20:49]

>> So, what do you usually do outside of

[20:52]

work?

[20:53]

>> How long have you lived around here?

[20:56]

>> So, what got you into painting?

[20:59]

Have you been doing this for a long

[21:01]

time? Have you been coming here for a

[21:04]

long time?

[21:05]

>> Next, we have a list of followup

[21:07]

questions. These are questions you can

[21:09]

ask to keep the conversation going and

[21:12]

keep going deeper into a hobby or an

[21:14]

activity. So, you could start the

[21:16]

conversation and then ask, "How did you

[21:19]

get into that?"

[21:21]

>> A similar question, but with a little

[21:23]

bit of different grammar. What got you

[21:25]

into that?

[21:26]

Was it hard to get the hang of it?

[21:30]

>> Was it a lot of work?

[21:32]

>> Did you do all the work by yourself?

[21:35]

>> Is it something you do every day?

[21:37]

>> Would you recommend it?

[21:40]

>> What kind of stuff do you usually bake?

[21:42]

All right. So, there you go. Some

[21:44]

friendly, natural small talk

[21:45]

conversations and a great list of

[21:47]

questions that you can ask people in

[21:49]

English the next time you want to get to

[21:50]

know someone better.

[21:52]

>> Yes. So tell us in the comments below

[21:54]

which questions were new for you or were

[21:56]

there any that you liked the most or

[21:58]

have you used any of these before. We

[22:00]

read and reply to every single comment

[22:02]

we get here on YouTube. So get in touch

[22:05]

and there's two ways for you guys to get

[22:07]

all of these dialogues. You can check

[22:09]

out our PayHip store in the link below

[22:11]

and that gives you all the phrases from

[22:13]

all of our small talk conversations or

[22:16]

you can join us as a highle listening

[22:18]

vocabulary member here on YouTube and

[22:20]

you get a list of all the small talk

[22:22]

dialogues from today and you can

[22:25]

practice, review and build your

[22:26]

confidence step by step. Thanks so much

[22:28]

everybody. We'll see you again very soon

[22:30]

for another episode here on High Level

[22:32]

Listening.

[22:33]

>> Bye-bye.

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