Unlocking the Secrets of Keto and Carnivore Diets with Maria Emmerich

we think "Oh just let them be kids eat whatever they want." But guess what you just don't turn 18 and don't have a

sugar addiction if you just ate whatever you want and didn't teach them how to eat properly and nutrient-dense foods so

it's kind of like a you know secret hidden healthy book but it has chicken nuggets it has all of your favorite

things in there and I try to make it easy so you know young kids can cook most of them

welcome back to another episode of the Peak Performance Life podcast today I am very excited to have Maria Emmerick on

the line with us she is the founder of Maria MindBody Health and Keto Adapted.com she's going to be sharing

some strategies that she has used for incredible results not only in herself but in many of the clients that she

works with having lost 80 pounds and reversing her PCOS IBS and regaining her health 20 years ago Maria started

writing books about the keto lifestyle with over 20 published books and more coming soon she is an international

best-selling author and her new book Sugar-free Kids has a forward written by Holly Berry as well i know you've been

writing a lot of books recently Maria thank you so much for joining us here today oh such an honor thanks for asking

me to be on absolutely yeah so I guess let's start with a little bit of a background about your story well um it's

been 28 years for me i was 16 years old so you can do the math if you want to um but I was 16 and I went to my family

doctor because I just wasn't feeling well um and at that visit uh she told me I had PCOS and I probably couldn't have

my own children um I had three drugs given prescriptions given to me something for acid reflux

IBS and um depression and I didn't want to take them so I looked into what causes PCOS

because that was pretty mind-blowing and there wasn't the internet back then but when you looked into it it was very

clear it was excess caffeine sugar and carbohydrates and um I worked at a coffee shop because she told me it was

nothing I was doing wrong it was just the cards I was dealt but I worked at a coffee shop so before I'd go to high

school I'd go to this coffee shop and I'd make the scones and the muffins and the cinnamon rolls and all the goodies

and then I'd go to school and then after school I'd go back to the coffee shop and we'd close about 5:00 p.m and

whatever didn't sell that day I got to go home with so I would have boxes do you remember Seinfeld you know eating

the muffin tops you know I was just eating the muffin tops that was my dinner right and you think I'm kidding

but I would know what day like Fridays we'd sell a lot of cinnamon rolls so I would make extra so I would have some

dinner you know so I really had to change what I was eating but I didn't want to eat chicken breast and broccoli

so I just started recreating some of my favorite foods like cinnamon rolls into like exotic low carb like I have this

like totally it's all protein the cinnamon roll that's like really awesome amazing and so yeah what are So

obviously now you're big into keto i know you've talked a little bit about uh carnivore style uh as well what got you

into uh keto and carnivore and and different things well the you know when I was 16 I just

didn't want to be sick so was it called keto then it was more called Atkins um what people know of today for Atkins

it's not the shakes and the bars that you see at the store dr atkins he was like a keto proponent right the keto

diet started for epilepsy and seizures but it does help a lot with weight loss um in some if you do it properly a lot

of people will do way too much fat and that type of stuff but when you eliminate carbohydrates it's when you

eat a carbohydrate it just becomes sugar in your bloodstream a cracker bagels It all turns the sugar in your bloodstream

what even though it's not sweet that's what happens um and I knew I had to eliminate those to get better and when I

did I I just felt amazing i didn't lose weight right away but I I was so much happier i didn't have acid reflux

anymore my IBS stopped and the carnivore diet started um my husband got Lyme disease this is probably my kids are 14

and 15 now so it's probably 13 years ago he just was having immense pain and I said "You have to figure this out you

know you're only 40 and you can barely move." And he found out he had Lyme disease and he probably had it for 10

years before that and by then you know we were desperate we tried everything and I learned about are you familiar

with oxalates oxalates are like little crystals that are found in things like kiwi spinach

kale um very prevalent when they're raw if you cook them it's a little bit less but um eliminating those vegetables that

had those and fruits um he didn't have any pain so carnivore was kind of the way for him and so I just helped like

joined him for a while i wouldn't say I'm 100% carnivore but more like ketoore now um I'll add a few things that aren't

that don't have oxalates or the anti-nutrients in them but I feel so much better without them yeah i don't

I've yet to meet someone who's you know gone lower carb let's just say even if we don't say full-on keto or carnivore

but yet to meet someone who's gone lower carb that hasn't said you know they feel better they have more energy they lost

weight you know you name it um there's certainly something going on here with way too many carbs uh that that people

are eating and I think what you said makes a lot of sense and a lot of people don't always think about it that way but

like carbs are basically turning into sugar in your bloodstream right yep yeah and at first sometimes people have lower

energy when they first start keto or carnivore and the thing about that is carbohydrates retain water and when you

eliminate carbohydrates along goes all this water loss so a lot of times people will notice like 10 pounds on the scale

right away and they're like "Wow this is crazy how fast I'm losing weight." A lot of it is water loss so let's get that

clear however your energy goes without um having enough hydration in your body you might get headaches

migraines and people blame that on keto but it's really for me the carbohydrate withdrawal that you're going through um

if you add in enough sodium sodium is not the evil devil that we've been told that it is um if you add in sodium if

you especially if you're eliminating carbohydrates that helps retain the water that you've lost which is good you

want to have a good water balance to save off headaches or low energy if you have heav heavy legs walking

upstairs that has a lot to do with low um hydration okay interesting interesting the more

water you drink the more sodium you need electrolytes yeah it's so interesting because I

actually just came back from some uh you know executive program and they had some you know college professor with giving

1980s nutrition advice as I call it um you know and saying you know saying things like you know we all know you

know less less sodium is better and I'm like well depends on what kind of diet you're eating right it depends on how

much you're sweating depends on you know so many things and so it's still this old school advice and literally he was

teaching uh and this is now a professor at like Harvard University who is teaching 25% of your plate should be

grains um you know make sure it's your low low sodium all this kind of stuff and this is the kind of advice we've

been hearing for for so many years what do what do you what do you think about all that well that's

interesting because I like that you brought that up because the university I graduated from asked me to come and

speak and I said 'Well I want to talk to you about what my presentation is going to be because it's going to be the

opposite of what all the professors that taught me told me and I don't want to get into

a big you know argument there i don't want to I just I want you to realize that's what I'm going to be preaching

and they're like "Yeah we don't want you to come anymore." Right so it is sad and you do have to be open-minded and yeah I

did go through that program and I was told all the you know the 7 to 11 grains or you know the all the fruits and

vegetables and it's interesting because the fruits that we're eating now yeah we think oh they're natural they're healthy

for you they have all these nutrients in them no they don't they have a bunch of sugar in them way more than what our

paleo ancestors were used to um if you look at like a a wild strawberry what we were used to having it was really tiny

it was about the size of the tip of your pinky but now it's like huge at Costco right they're giant scientists have bred

apples to be even more sweeter grapes to be cotton candy grapes right the sugarbe apple the honey crisp apple they're all

way sweeter that's not what nature had for us the first tomato was high in the Andes mountains and it was so bitter

nobody would have ever eaten it but now we make it into ketchup and we consider that a vegetable for kids at school it's

just lies yeah and what would you say there there is some discussion recently because it's actually quite interesting

when you when we talk about keto right like well maybe it was five six years ago it was like that you know everyone

was writing books about keto like all the top you know kind of influencers or people out there and it it kind of like

had its moment and now I can see actually the search volume and the interest in keto has gone down and now

people are like oh well no you know some carbohydrates are good still lower carb which is which obviously makes sense but

some carbs are good especially if you're if you're you know an athlete or working out or need to be have explosive

movements you know you need some carbs um what first first of all I think also that keto is very useful for people who

have like issues um like autoim keto and carnivore because it's kind of like an elimination diet right for people who

have you know autoimmune diseases or certain issues I personally think it's it's fantastic but just curious what

you're seeing recently and what you think about people saying "Well we need some carbs and maybe maybe a little bit

of carbs is good." I would say I guess I don't keep up with the search engines sure it may have gone

down on like I think all of these big companies were making like keto brownies and keto bread which is just junk which

I never would recommend eating any of that um but I mean my business is booming but I've never once paid for

advertising it's all word of mouth it's all word of mouth you know this friend got better you know they lost all the

weight i get you know 99% of people come to me because they want to lose weight and they were like I've tried keto and I

gained weight or I didn't lose any weight i was like are you doing dairy um how much protein are you getting you

know if you got lost your hair when you tried keto or whatever it is most people if you're doing it for weight loss this

is not if I work with people with seizures or epilepsy I'm going to have that fat ratio way higher and the

protein lower but if you want to lose weight that's a totally different animal that we're playing with i'm going to

raise the protein and lower that fat most likely cut out dairy and nuts and most people that try keto they're eating

snacking on cheese and almonds you know talk about oxalate load with the almonds right

so I think people need guidance they want guidance and I do a lot of free help for people too so it doesn't have

to it's not all about the money it's just people want help they want the true answers right absolutely absolutely and

I think that's where people see the the biggest results is people that have had some sort of issue uh as well or they

you know I guess have struggled losing weight or have some sort of autoimmune or or some other issue that they just

can't get to the bottom of um I've seen keto and carnivore have have great success for a lot of those people as

well um with regards to keto and weight loss I'm curious your thoughts are people eating le are you seeing people

ever eat less uh sorry eat more calories and still lose weight or is it the fact that the keto you know the foods like

the protein and the fats are just so much more satiating that you're just not hungry and therefore don't need to eat

as many calories it's a mixture of both they've studied this and your your thermic defect of food and all of that

it is a little bit higher when you are eating keto but I do believe that so when you're on that carb roller

coaster you know you eat like this giant blizzard and it has you know 2,000 calories and I don't know you know 100

grams of carbs sugar whatever two hours later you could have a meal you should be full for that for a long time but how

hunger happens is a falling blood sugar even if it's high when it starts to come down that's how hunger happens so when

you're eating in a ketogenic way your blood sugar is never going to go sky-high like that it's going to have

little fluctuations you know your blood sugar is going to fluctuate with exercise with sauna with other things

other than food so it's not going to be a flat line or it shouldn't be but it's going to be close to a flatter line than

it is when you're on the car roller coaster so you get hungry but it's not that hangry where oh my gosh where's my

you know where's my lunch i'm so hungry or you can you can manage it you can go another hour or two and be just fine um

intermittent fasting is something that's very manageable and easy for people and like you mentioned people with issues

high blood pressure whatever keto is great for but my kids are teenagers teenage boys and they eat this way and I

mean my son is the best football player I've ever seen he's the fastest he wants to be what is that the running back that

runs and catches it um you know they they feel better this way so I'm proud of them amazing yeah

yeah at this point it's their choice what what about the way that um so you mentioned like a lot of people did keto

the wrong way and and did Atkins the wrong way and anytime you're buying a packaged good like a bar or something

like that we know you're doing it the wrong way but some people might be wondering like and you've heard we've

all heard of dirty keto where people are just eating bacon and cheese all day or something like that but what is what is

a what is a good keto like what does that look like to you whether it be keto carnivore or or maybe I should just ask

you what do you eat in a day typically well you know even like bacon and eggs for breakfast to me when I look at the

macros and the macros are carbs fat and protein the macros aren't good for if you want to hit your protein goal for

the day you're not going to with bacon and eggs mhm and so it's not a bad meal but it's not something I'm going to

choose um I would much rather have like a tenderloin for breakfast i eat pretty odd things for breakfast not really your

typical breakfast food item and they don't have to be i have a breakfast chili and it's basically you know it's

mainly all protein um people love that you know and you could put a egg on it but it's mainly protein underneath there

so you want to think about animal proteins and I I don't like to say you're doing keto the wrong way you're

doing it wrong for what your goals are and so even like dairy it's not bad for everybody but if you're stalled and

you're not losing any weight I would cut out all of the dairy the cheese the heavy

cream you know eggs aren't dairy i get that question a lot but um you know eggs have about six grams of protein in one

egg you know in order to get 120 grams of protein that day you're going to eat eggs until you're sick of them you know

um so I would focus on something different you know i have like even um I have this pudding made with hard-boiled

eggs but the macros get really good with what you put into it and um I made it for Halib Berry and she's like "I'm not

going to eat that it's made with hard-boiled eggs." It was just chocolate pudding it's really good and I finally

got her to eat it and she's like "This is so delicious." She like wouldn't let anybody have any of the leftovers she

wanted to keep it but that recipe came from um when we adopted the two boys uh my youngest was very very picky he

didn't like any type of egg and we were we didn't have any money and what's the cheapest keto food well it was eggs

right so I was like "You have to have eggs for one meal." And he wouldn't eat them anyway and so I threw them into a

blender and I added cocoa powder and some coconut milk and all this stuff and I blended it up into pudding and he

loved it you know so you just have to be Yeah eggs are my favorite i do I do five eggs typically for lunch every day um

Yep yep i love it but like you said you got to eat five of them to get 30 grams of protein right so um you know but yeah

that they're they're a great food so it sounds like and that's kind of maybe why you were saying kind of keto

carnivoreish um because you're leaning maybe towards heavier protein it sounds like Yeah but

I feel that even some people on the carnivore diet they can do too much fat not enough protein i've seen it where

they have like a ribeye with a stick of butter you know they put butter on top of the ribeye well the ribeye has way

enough fat in there for anybody pretty much yeah unless you're running marathons because here's the thing

protein is not a good energy source fat and carbs are so when you eliminate carbohydrates fat is going to be your

energy source but if you have hundreds of pounds on you extra that can be your energy source people don't realize that

but when you get lean enough your macros are going to have to shift a little bit you're going to have to add in more fat

your protein should stay the same because your lean mass should stay the same as you lose weight we only want to

lose body fat we don't want to lose muscle that's precious right interesting yeah what would you say I

you know I've heard now you know there are a couple of uh carnivore people who are now eating honey or certain types of

fruits here and there um yeah what do you think about uh what what do you think i mean honey is a really big

controversial one i'm curious to hear what your thoughts are now now honey is a superfood to some people it's it's

it's sugar to other people well this is all thanks to Paul Saladino

he He's all He never had a weight problem he was always lean so if you tell somebody who has a pretty bad sugar

addiction which happens to people you know they have one Girl Scout cookie and then a year later they come back to me

they're like "I gained all my weight back because that one cookie just threw me onto a roller coaster." Honey can do

that too and if you want the real nutrients more nutrients than honey will ever have you're going to look into beef

and organ meat that's going to have more nutrients so don't tell me you're eating honey because it's nutrientdense you're

eating it because it's sweet and you like it right so I mean again I don't The fruit is not the devil but it also

is not what our ancestors had we have changed it tremendously so again he never had a weight problem

he's very athletic he had a hard time balancing his electrolytes and so if that's how he feels better okay to each

his own but I don't think you should jump onto a program just because somebody else did that and you think

it's going to work for you you know again he never had a weight problem he's super athletic he surfs all day long

nice guy but I don't know yeah he's only carnivore he was only carnivore for

maybe a year he was vegan before that so I think you have to stick with somebody who has done it for a long time maybe he

you know just didn't sit with it long enough yeah yeah very good point very good point um what what do you say to PE

because I have heard also a lot of people now say "Well keto is great carnivore is great but you shouldn't

really do it for too long it's more of just like an elimination diet or something you want to cycle on and off

of or stuff like that are there What do you think about that um I would ask them why they feel that way um I know that

like they studied children on a ketogenic diet that had seizures and they failed to thrive that's because

their protein was really low because you know protein in the absence of carbohydrates

gluconneioenesis um this is not a bad thing this whole process enables ketosis to happen um my kids focus on protein

and they're giants you know so I'm not too concerned um but what was the question again uh

just people should saying that you should cycle off or not do not do it for too long of a period like yeah do do

carnivore for a few months but then you don't want to do it long term because then it could cause issues or something

i don't know if it can cause issues um your metabolic flexibility might not not be what it was because you become a fat

burner i have become a fat burner do I miss the carbs no because your taste buds turn over every

14 days okay so if you give yourself time what you crave is going to change cuz I never thought I'd never want all

my cinnamon rolls and muffins right from the coffee shop i never thought I would be able to give up that right but now

what I can't have has become what I don't want and that will happen for people too so to be like oh I can't have

a muffin again i don't really want it you know but if you keep on going back and forth I don't think you're ever

going to get your pallet to the point where all you want is the most nutrient-dense food

yeah i can definitely relate i will say that literally um because I haven't you know I don't really eat sugar or have

any desserts for the longest period of time and now literally you know if I go to a kid's birthday party and they're

handing out the cake I mean I don't crave it i I look literally look at that piece of cake and I think gh I would

feel so disgusting if I ate that cake um I know most people say that's you know that I'm not like them and they they

they don't have you know they have a much different issue but um I think it's certainly possible to change what you

crave and to change yeah your taste buds essentially i am standing proof of that because that's what I lived off of you

know and I didn't like steak i didn't like any of that and that's what I eat now yeah what are some like success so

people listening now they might think okay these two extreme biohackers you know keto carnivore they're disciplined

i don't have that discipline or whatever they may be thinking um just you know the average person listening maybe they

want to lose 20 pounds or just you know get in a little bit better shape um you know what are some or maybe some

experiences that you've had with people that you've worked with what are some of the use cases where hey you should

really kind of you should really consider this i mean we could say yes everyone should do it and sometimes I

feel that way but let's just say hey especially if fill in the blank you should really consider this what do you

think oh my gosh there's so many testimonies I have of you name it like kidneys disease just think like when you

do a bicep curl you're making that bicep work right when you eliminate protein because you think it's bad for your

kidneys you make that kidney so weak unless you're in stage five kidney disease other than that I'm going to

increase your protein to make that that kidney work and it reverses it um there's Twilight twi lost 270 pounds

didn't pay she didn't pay me a dime she's now one of my coaches um gosh she was at such a point in her life where

she wouldn't leave the house because if she would need to use a restroom she couldn't fit into a bathroom stall you

know and she's living her best life she's out there ice fishing and doing all the things that she loves to do

playing with her grandkids which she never did before there's one woman named Jen who was on a handful of drugs like

I'm talking more than fingers I have and she got rid of all of them you know talk about saving money and like all of that

saving our health care system get people off of medication rather than reversing blood pressure issues getting off blood

pressure medication there was one woman who had us help her my husband and I I'm going to say us she was going to be on

naked and afraid and she wanted to win so she wanted to gain weight in the most healthiest way so she just had some

extra fat on her when I I should watch the show to see her on it but um so the most interesting people have contacted

us for help but um there was one woman named Kiki who I used to lift weights with at the Y and she was very quiet it

was body pump one of the classes and she would always wear a bandana she came up to me one day and she said "Maria I have

alopecia and I heard that you could help me." And so she came into my office i told her what to do and she was a

professor and so I didn't see her for 6 months after that cuz it was school time and she didn't have time to go to the Y

she came back in May she had her stupid bandana on and she took it off she had a full head of hair and she cried she said

"Maria I had my first haircut in 10 years." Wow but you know what's sad she was addicted to the food and she

lost all of her hair again wow why do you think people lose their like and not talking about male pattern baldness

obviously but for people who are losing hair uh particularly women let's say uh where it's clearly some sort of

deficiency or imbalance or something what do you think is typically the reason why hairs look being lost there's

a couple of reasons it could be an iron deficiency but don't go and take iron unless you know that you're low but

it could be one it could be a zinc deficiency again don't just take it blindly you'll feel nauseous um it could

be low progesterone that's a big cause low protein is a huge cause low thyroid is another one um but focusing on higher

protein is probably the key because most women don't eat enough protein and guess what iron's in protein zinc is in

protein you know all of those amino acids like tyrosine and stuff is in the protein your hair follicles need that

and also low blood pressure can cause that so when your blood pressure drops you're not getting the blood flow to

your head and it's all about circulation when it comes to your hair your hair growth is all about circulation that's

why they have those hair massagers that's why minoxidil works it's all about the hair um the circulation to

that so having electrolytes is a really key part when it comes to a ketogenic or carnivore diet

yeah maybe that's why those red light laser helmets also stimulating uh blood flow right yeah interesting my protein

very very interesting so what are what are some of the foods that you think for the average person that

are you know we know sugar bad we know alcohol is bad what are some of the other ones that you think that if you

had to point to these are causing potentially a lot of problems for a lot of people

um you might be surprised but I would say like celery potatoes you know that is surprising wow why why celery the

oxalates like celery juice can cause toxicity because the oxalates are so high it can kill you

um same with like there's a lot of anti-nutrients in them that pull them out soy you know if you're doing like

soy milk because you think it's a healthier option it's not um they studied women who were eating a lot of

soy and they did mammograms and the estrogen they lit up like a chimney you know and that type of thing that

estrogen dominance is going to cause you know breast cancer or other type of cancers that you don't want to have

estrogen dominant cancers are even prostate cancer in men thyroid cancer um ovarian cancer breast cancer you know

like I said kiwi spinach kale yeah so those are the ones that are high in oxalate is potatoes because of the

oxalates as well or is that like a night shade or what do you think uh yeah the o the oxalates and nightshade but also

tobacco too that's going to have a lot of oxalates also um I guess it depends on what your

issues are you know like if you're like Kiki and you have alipcia I'm going to make sure that you're dairy free

gluten-free soyf free you know getting rid of all of that that's why carnivore is so great because it's the ultimate

autoimmune protocol that's what we talked about in our book we have a carnivore book it is the ultimate

autoimmune protocol that's right makes a lot of sense makes a lot of sense yeah and it's so counterintuitive right it's

like if you tell someone fruits you know and vegetables right like what you mean sp what do you mean spinach kale kiwi

all these things are are like all I've heard my whole life is that vegetables and fruits are are what I should be

eating every day and and it's just it's so counterintuitive that it's hard for people to wrap their head around and and

even still it's almost common knowledge these days people out there saying "Oh yeah vegetables are fine." I mean

nowadays fruits people are a lot you know are you know kind kind of starting to realize that a lot of fruits are very

high in sugar um like me personally if I do eat fruits it'll typically only be be berries blueberries and strawberries or

something like that um but yeah there's still a lot of knowledge out there about vegetables and fruits being being health

foods we could go a whole another level and talk about glyphosates and that's all over the fruits and

vegetables you're not going to get that with animal protein right um but in this book we have charts showing blueberries

kale apples and then we have beef and we have organ meat and everybody thinks that if I put a plate of kale in front

of you or a plate of blueberries or a steak in front of you which one has the most nutrients

my mom still thinks it's a blueberries she won't believe me but if you look into the science it's the steak

yeah I think that's the part people don't get i mean literally it's crazy because I was literally with a with a

with a he's now a retired doctor but um when I said "Yeah I try to lower inflammation in the body." Like he was

asking me "Okay so what do you think health?" And I said "Health is about." And I said "Actually I believe that

health is about lowering inflammation in the body." Uh and then and he's like "Oh okay so how do you lower inflammation?"

I said "You know you lower carbs and sugars and and all these inflammatory things." And and so he's like "Oh so

then but what about protein isn't protein inflammatory?" And this is again this is a retired doctor's and I've

heard this actually a few times from a few different people saying "Oh isn't isn't meat inflammatory in your body?"

Uh no the answer is no all of those studies when they point to meat as causing cancer or whatnot they're it's

all like this the type of studies where they ask people "What do you eat?" And if they have a hamburger that's the bun

the meat the beef and the fries it's not the beef it's all the other things that they're putting into

their body the the the fries fried in seed oils and you know all of the bread with all of the different chemicals

we're putting in there when you look at a loaf of bread on the shelf of the store I worked with this grocery store

manager who wanted to bring in more you know healthy foods and stuff so I went through the the grocery store with him

and he took me to the bread aisle and he said "I know we have an issue." And this was before I had kids this was a long

time ago he said "I know that we have an issue with bread." Because when I first started here bread had a shelf life of

eight days it now has a shelf life of 14 days and that was that was my kids are 14 and 15 like this is before kids right

so we know we have an issue yep and so what is it about meat when people uh when people say meat is the most

nutrient-dense talk a little bit about why or how it's the most nutrient-dense well when you look in to what vitamins

and minerals are in like a steak versus what's in an apple you're going to think that there's more in the apple i That's

what I thought for sure right but when you look into the science of it it has way more nutrients the only thing that

it might have less in is vitamin A or vitamin C but we I guess I shouldn't say we all know this but if you the lower

the amount of carbohydrates you eat the less vitamin C you need in the diet you only get scurvy if you're eating bread

and all the stuff that they were eating on the ships right they were just eating bread and water then they got scurvy but

if you're eating steaks and uh meat does have some vitamin C the less you cook it the more vitamin C you're going to

absorb so the more rare like your steak or whatever is better but um when you look

into the other nutrients like the proteins in there your body's your skin your nails your bones your bones are

sheets of protein right so we want to keep our our bones healthy you know um people that suffer with osteopenia or

osteoporosis when we bring their protein up lower the carbohydrates they often reverse it i also touch on other issues

that can cause it um you know you want to have impact on your bones you want to look at estrogen so this is why women in

menopause have a higher risk because you need um estrogen for your bones interesting and what about what's your

stance on for example seafood fish and you know there's all everything is all about the Mediterranean diet especially

when it comes to this uh you know professor right it's like well the Mediterranean diet's the only diet

that's been shown consistently over a long term to increase lifespan or whatever um but I agree with you first

of all all the studies on meat right has there ever been a study where they looked at people who eat grass-fed meat

you know just you know by itself without the bun and the seed oil French fries and the soda with it and all that kind

of stuff uh yeah the meat is probably the healthiest part of that entire happy meal uh compared to the bread the

processed bread and the French fries in canola oil and all that um yeah and like you mentioned grass-fed beef and it's

not just about you're going to get more nutrients in conventional beef but when you look at the environment you want to

save the environment you want cattle roaming the earth they're ruminant animals they're saving the environment

they're not ruining it right you know when they blame cow farts on the ozone layer well you know what the ozone got

better during COVID and we still had that many cows out there it wasn't the cow's problem making the ozone bad it

was us flying and all that stuff um but I'm sorry what did you get back to what were you saying uh we were just talking

about uh the different studies that were done uh with grass-fed yeah and the seafood that's what I wanted to ask you

about yeah so like do you ever eat um you know salmon or or something like that well I live on the ocean

it's right here i can hear the waves while we're talking um Yeah I do i don't like salmon but um yeah but you want to

focus on smaller fish you know the toxicity it's sad that our oceans are so polluted um the larger fish are going to

absorb more of that toxic but if you sardines um those are great yeah I do like seafood very much okay great um so

okay so seafood you're good with um the Mediterranean diet you know there's a lot of carbs in there there's a lot of

beans which are just anti-nutrients um no there's a lot of issues with the Mediterranean diet but I

think it's You know doctors are just they get what maybe two weeks of nutrition in their

schooling they're not experts don't ask them about diet they don't know it's true we had we had I had multiple

doctors tell me that they they had one nutrition class you know like one or two hours of their entire uh med school it's

usually how much glucose to give to somebody so they don't die right right right exactly yeah so um yeah it's it's

really it's really interesting it's kind of backwards hopefully that that changes but um but yeah this has been really

great maria um what are some of I know you've written a lot of books what are some of your most recent books uh that

you've that you've written um Sugar-free Kids which is kind of like a secret keto kids um but it's really good it's all

your kids' favorite food items because here's the thing we think oh just let them be kids eat whatever they want but

guess what you just don't turn 18 and don't have a sugar addiction if you just ate whatever you want and didn't teach

them how to eat properly and nutrient-dense foods so it's kind of like a you know secret hidden healthy

book but it has chicken nuggets it has all of your favorite things in there and I try to make it easy so you know young

kids can cook most of them so I have a meter on it if it's you know a parent helping type recipe or a parent you know

mainly doing it um but there's only like two recipes in there that that parents should mainly do most of them are very

easy um so it's kid-friendly there's also I mean the carnivore cookbook it was very very popular for people and

they think oh don't I just eat meat and drink water but you can make it very delicious i had so many recipes I had to

cut half of them out um my publisher made me but there's so many different ways to make food delicious you know and

there's I don't know i think food has to be fun i love to cook some people don't but I think it's a great way to get out

of your head sometimes yeah and I mean I think look we all got to eat more at home that's one thing I

can feel so clearly is like you know when I'm traveling or eat out even if I just eat out two meals in the same day I

just feel like you know you can feel it in your stomach you can feel it in your body um so the more we can cook at home

and eat at home uh the better for sure um Maria where can people find you follow you do do you have as well uh

coaching programs that people could join if they're interested and and who typically will join these coaching

programs i know a lot of people that want to lose weight i would say that would be a big one yeah or people with

you know eczema or skin issues you know that they would they want help learning how to do that or um I actually have um

a coaching program so you can become one of my certified keto coaches i don't know if that's what you're asking but um

I can't keep up with business and so other people that are passionate they want either a side job or you know make

this their main job um they want to become a certified coach and I help them with creating i have a website already

for them when they graduate so they can be successful right away um but it's all at ketoia.com if you scroll all the way

to the bottom you'll find links to my free private Facebook groups you know where like Twilight lost like I said 270

pounds so you don't have to pay me a dime there's a blog with thousand I've been blogging since blogging first

started so there's thousands of free recipes that free cinnamon rolls on there um but yeah you have to cook it

yourself but it's totally worth it that's so great that's so great Maria thank you so much for everything that

you're doing um I think people don't realize how accessible this is and how much of a difference in their life it

can it can make right whether it be losing 100 pounds or reversing autoimmune diseases or people uh again

not making any health or medical claims here but we know people have reversed diabetes by using the keto diet and

things of that nature so there's just so many incredible benefits um and having someone who can provide you with

cookbooks provide you with coaching and and support and all the resources you need i'm a big big fan of that so just

want to really thank you for everything that you're doing and the knowledge that you're sharing and uh I hope we can do

this again sometime well thanks for reaching out you're awesome thank you again thank you thanks for listening if

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