Inside the Music Industry: Gang Influence, Security, and Artist Growth

Are we live? >> Yeah. >> Yo, who's the new chick?

>> Which one? >> I don't know. >> Oh, Tam.

>> Yeah, they say it's a new new girl here. >> Tam. >> Tam going crazy. She don't she

>> was born in watch. >> Oh, she from watch. >> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Project. >> Uh I I would I'm going to hazard a guess and say no, but it's possible. But she's

>> So was she ghetto? She hood or she So she just So she came from a good family. >> Well,

>> I haven't heard her. I haven't I just Adam just told me it's somebody new named Cam.

>> I ain't going to say she not hood cuz she come from where she come from. You feel me?

>> No, but you know what I'm saying. You got >> ghetto hood. Ebonics.

>> Yeah. >> You got educated hood. You know what I'm saying?

>> No, she's very eloquent. She expresses herself extremely well. >> She's not a mother.

>> How old is she? >> She's 32. >> Oh, yeah. She was raised right.

>> She You feel me? and she's um I think she uh not to like this is all stuff she said on the pod so I ain't bleeding

nothing that's already not public but she she uh she been um she broke up with her boyfriend back in July so she's

single you feel me and you feel me with nobody else >> she career driven right now she ain't

she ain't no she ain't ratchet >> n she really not bro and not only that >> most women break up in July before

August 1st they already somewhere else >> normally when they break up in July. If they say they ain't getting hit, I say

July. You feel me? But hey, with her, I think it might could be a different story. This is a really like

>> Who's your favorite rapper? >> Um, >> is her favorite rapper from Compton?

>> She seems to like, if I had to hazard a guess, I would say she leaned more to the B team side of things. She

>> I didn't ask what side. I said who's her favorite rapper. >> I can't say her. She seems to enjoy. Um,

>> because that's a question you would ask like a >> of the building. You're the the hip-hop

guy. >> 100%. >> You get what I'm saying? So, I would

just, you know, cuz that kind of tells us something about >> So, it's funny. So, she came from when

we did the host competition that one day, right? >> Oh, I didn't see that. All I seen that's

when uh Brandon got uh got dropped, >> got up, you feel me? Like raindrop. >> I got going on with D. this dude like

first I heard he quit and then he came back and then I'm hearing he quit again. So he's so so okay per my understanding

he is going to come to the Thursday show right and he going to be here on Thursday by the time this airs we will

know the truth however Josh said that he already has those seats filled and Brandon ain't welcome so I'm a little

confused >> who told him he can come to the Thursday show cuz if if Josh is saying that that

means Adam already >> yeah I mean I'm just assuming cuz TF said he going to come with me. I'mma

bring him and like so >> TF better sit his low ass down and worry about himself. I'm about to talk to

nephew about that. >> Hey, but the thing is is like Brandon, we never wanted I don't know about how

you felt. Me personally, >> I never let him sit at my table. You know what time it was with me because I

seen this what I seen. I seen his whole objective

was to eliminate and replace when your objective should have been to come in here and add to and create your

lane. And I believe like I feel like you got your own lane when it comes to that all this other stuff you tap in and you

tune into cuz everybody know you. But if it's a hip-hop conversation or this is going on that's going on, I'mma

lean on Lush. I believe he should have stayed into that intellectual lane of things. He would have been the only one

like himself. grew that crowd, came here, tapped into this crowd, attracted his crowd, went back home like we all

do, ran your own page, took take some of the people here back there and grow, right? But it looked to me like when

that thing happened with him and suspect that uh his whole mission was get rid of the street in the building cuz it need

to be replaced with that. But what you do ain't what it is. Cuz if it was, it would be big.

>> And then on top of that though, how you going to go from that being your mission statement to all of a sudden when you

getting mad and then fools want to fight you all of a sudden cuz coming out of your mouth?

>> Listen, first he snitched. Oh, he got her. And then now he cripped and that ain't what that is. So I don't know. And

listen, I told Viral away nephew text me. I sure he said whack. He was right. I told him months ago. Dude a little

jealous of y'all. He going to turn on y'all. >> And you sure did that.

>> And he did that because certain things I don't give what's going on. You ain't supposed to do or say if you say that's

your brother then your people especially on camera. >> Well I mean did you hear the whole part?

So when he went to catch the fade with the warchief dude right when he went over there uh I guess after it didn't go

down he walking away. He on his phone. Borrowway is with an earshot, but he don't know that Borrowway is nearby.

Right. Borrowway hear him say like, "Oh yeah, the two the two fools that are with me, I don't really know if they got

my back like that. I don't really know. They not really homies like that." I don't want to misquote, but it was

something along those lines. >> So, let me tell you why. And from my understanding, I think Viral Way both in

did some time, you know, and I'm a I'm a a a supporter, a mentor and a fan of Viral Way, right?

I like what they do >> when cats like that get out their bed >> and look at their woman and their kids

and take the penitentiary chance of getting in the car of being hit by a drunk driver pulled over by a a racist

cop because you got a problem and you because you're from Long Beach but you ain't from their side of Long Beach and

come in a closed area for you to say them those men don't have your back is crazy.

>> I would never with him again like that again. >> No, cuz that that's essentially being

like, "Hey, I don't really think that y'all are the homies like that. You guys, we've been rocking together." And

this is like, look, like Bren is cool. I ain't got no problem with him. But I wouldn't have known who he was if it

wasn't for Viral Way pushing his line. That that's fact. They brought him over. Now, obviously Flocko, you feel me, gave

his little extra stamp or whatnot, but really at the end of the day, they viral way. He viral ways little homie as far

as podcasting goes >> because I've been noticing Bro Rogan's over there now. So maybe

uh because they ain't really tripping with dude like that. It opened the door for Bro Rogan. I've been seeing Bro

Rogan over there look like they've been, you know, doing their thing. I think that's a nice concept. So

>> I put that, too. Shout out viral way. And um

is Brandon thinking he going to dictate where he going to go in the building? >> I mean I'm not exactly sure what that

means when you say that. I don't know if you mean that from like a gangster perspective.

>> He said he's going to the Thursday show and Josh is saying for instance, right, yesterday I could think I might have

called you Tuesday and I said, "You know what? I might have some stuff I got to do Thursday. I'mma try to get in there

Wednesday." So I know Adam's out of town, right? >> Right.

>> You know the first person I contacted? >> Josh. >> Josh. Josh, here's what I want to do.

I'm bringing Lush. We got two artists, underground artist from the local where we going to bring on. Is it possible

that we can do this on Wednesday at 5:00? Let me check. Whack. He gets back. Yeah, whack. That ain't a problem. We

can make that happen. I didn't just say, "Hey, we doing this Wednesday at this time." And then and and I'm me. I'm who

I am in this building. So, I don't know who dude really think it is and but at the end of the day, um I'm really not a

that much of a I respect his intellect, but I I don't think he's a team player. Well, he clearly had his own agenda from

the beginning. And what my thing about Brandon is this, right? I function with Brandon, but I think that he don't mean

half the [ __ ] that he say. I think he's a shamelessing grifter. I think that like he he cares so much about the black

community, right? He cares so much. He said, "I live in Los Angeles and I can't even if I want to strictly deal with the

black community, I can't do that." But then I point out, [ __ ] there's uh black financial institutions, blackowned

financial institutions, there's blackowned uh banks. I mean, there's there's blackowned markets, there's

blackowned farms. You could literally patronize nothing but the black community, live within Los Angeles, and

be perfectly content if you so choose. You feel me? Speaking on the black community,

when did you get put on? I didn't know you got put on >> to what?

>> You're a [ __ ] now. >> Oh, they that's the that's the new narrative

>> with side. First of all, your lack of presence visiting the side of clubhouse. That's on you. So I don't

>> I think I'm old enough now. Is 43 old enough for clubhouse? I feel like it's like borderline.

>> Side of clubhouse a little. Everybody's been there. Birdman's been there. Kevin Gates, uh, Adam, Vlad, uh, [ __ ] even

uh, uh, what's our guy out there? The one ain't never on camera. >> Um, uh, uh, Donn Bernardino.

>> Oh, um, who you talking about? >> Cam Capone. >> Oh, Cam. Yeah,

>> Capone's been there. Kanye West been there on my side. The list goes on. >> 21 Savage,

>> but he was just there. But on the Hunter side. Okay. But you know, but they what when did you cuz they was telling me

that it was a dude here I think was from Atlanta. A big dude where you from he from ATL. Shout

>> you got a channel or something? >> Yeah. Yeah. Ugly Money Nichi. He go crazy. You

>> know, he probably got a bunch of content on me up. I don't know. I don't be knowing.

>> I ain't never heard him say nothing crazy about you. >> No, I No, I ain't saying that. But I'm

pretty sure I didn't watch something that his >> You might He more like on some I'll say

for lack of a better term red pill. Like he getting out the females. say he's a regular dude and they say he was telling

a story about Charleston White and they said that he had mentioned that he thinks Charleston White is kind of like

against the growth of people when it comes to business and they said that you know he he said that yeah um Charleston

White is like uh the crab in the bucket effect, right? >> Mhm.

>> And he was telling the story and he gave examples and they said you said you got to watch the C word. We don't

like that C word. So, first of all, >> don't ask when you get put on. >> So, he said it so many times. I thought

it was an obvious joke. Like, duh. How am I not going to make this joke? You said it so many times. You're in the

presence of some You feel me? Not me. You feel me? I I ain't saying I'm I know Keyway General. Wasn't Anne Hefe there?

>> Yeah, but he obviously wasn't. >> Did Anne Hefe flinch, blink, or say anything?

>> No, he was. But, but it was like But I I was looking at it from a comedic perspective. You feel me? Like see see

now now >> I was looking at it from perspective >> now I have to be the voice of the

keyways right now >> which I'm not the voice of the keyways but I have to defacto

>> cuz it's a lot of keyways I deal with I talk to dating >> there's nothing comedic when we talking

about a disrespectful slogan or term to what they represent. See, you have two things. You have gang

conversation and you have regular conversation. >> Yeah. No, for sure.

>> You got a civilian having regular conversation and you understand how he's using this

term, right? And you know it's not in a gang way. And you not a gang member.

>> No, I wasn't really trying to >> give you the right rank. know what you did was you didn't violate him because

he's clueless. >> Yeah, he has no clue. >> What you did, and I'm still trying to

figure out if you was running the play on, bro. You took a light that wasn't on and turned it on an Hefe for the trolls

to now clip something and say Lush had to check dude for an Hefe with Anne Hefe is a grown man.

He's a real [ __ ] but his intelligence told him that this dude is having a regular conversation. No, there's no

gang lingo in his combo. He was he was he was being but >> So I'm asking you when did you get put

on cuz I can understand as a [ __ ] you saying all right and he ain't lo I know you ain't tripping because I'm tripping

cuz you start tripping. I it wasn't I wasn't trying to trip on him, but you know, sometimes I I would say if we if

we want to know like hypothetically when I got put on, I would say like during the Nationwide Rip Riders,

>> were you there when Munchy B got disrespected by uh >> I didn't like that either.

>> Was you there? I was there. I didn't like that either. >> So that's why I know you're a [ __ ] cuz

you didn't say nothing to uh when he dissed the B. >> No, I wasn't feeling it. Then you was

there when the New Yorker called in. >> What the New Yorker say? >> That was the most

>> ridiculous [ __ ] Trap Lord, >> never allow them to pass you the mic to have a gang bang conversation. New

Yorkers, y'all need to DP this Really dude. That's his name. Really, whatever. I renamed him on Clubhouse a year ago.

Relish. Little Relish. >> All right. And we going to get some of that clear because he was disrespecting

Davies. >> You know why? Cuz they stripped him. >> Mhm.

>> He don't like Davies because they stripped him, put hands on him and told him to keep [ __ ] out of his mouth.

>> Davies. People in Harlem did that. >> We like Davies out here. Davies is a real dude. He comes out here. He really

goes over here to the Harlem >> and he's a dope MC. >> Yeah, but we like

>> fire music. So, but Munchie B got lined up again that day. He got dissed again that day, but your ears didn't hear

that. So, either you got put on a [ __ ] set or your mind or brain is just fine-tuned to cripping cuz every time a

disrespect happened towards the blood side, you ain't got nothing to say. >> Doc, there's certain 36 mafia songs I

won't even listen to out of respect for the Bloods, dude. like you know like you don't it goes deep

>> 36 mafia >> it goes deep >> they're not g they gang members

>> no I'm just saying there's certain words in their song titles that are big hits like I don't play around I don't play

every and and and regular conversation >> is always a dterminology somewhere in

there that somebody could hear that but we know they're talking regular

Yeah. You know, and you know what it is, whack. And one of the reasons why >> Give it up. Tell them you. We want to

know. I need you to come out. Is Lush cripping or what's happening? >> This real cripping. Shout some my

keyways. Y'all know what it is. All right. You're not playing no more. All right. B.

>> Hey, y'all heard it right here. I don't know what's going on. I ain't going to even ask you where you from. You know

what? I'm I ain't going to lie. Somebody told me you was from >> Okay. They told me you was from Escort

[ __ ] >> Escort [ __ ] >> Yeah. You got you got put on at Marathon

Burgers with a Rockstar. >> You know Escort [ __ ] you get put on by getting escorted across the street. And

if you keep playing with that he go, you going to get your ass escorted right up out of that room one day. That's the

thing. I'm trying to tell you. >> This is the thing. >> One of y'all going to get it. I think he

maxed out. >> And Hefe is my dog. And I don't and I learned that day because what you what

you said to me like he said Lush man you put a magnifying glass on me bro >> that's what you did

>> like like you wasn't supposed to do that >> because nobody was hearing it as that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just

thought it was funny bro. But I wasn't really >> You can't see.

>> Come on, man. It's >> You thought it was funny. Why would you put a light on it?

>> Because it sounded funny. Like it was I thought it sounded funny. >> No, it was a funny comment to make.

>> I'm going to stop cuz you go get your ass whooped. I'm going leave you alone. >> Look Look, no disrespect. I just I have

a [ __ ] up sense of humor. I got a dark sense of humor. So that's why I got to check myself.

>> You know what? I I met somebody on Club House before and we flipped out on them cuz they said some weird [ __ ] and they

tried to call it like dark comedy or something. It was like weird >> like

>> but it was it was pertaining to like kids and like >> I just heard it a little weird.

>> That's like that's extra out though. >> Now today well we had the murder moo hitman holler, right? Hitman hollers my

guy and Hitman hit me said whack people said I had fake paperwork can I come on your

thing we cleared up so I got all the paperwork the paperwork for the record is not criminal paperwork it's paperwork

that as if let's say like um what's the young lady that's here now Tam >> Tam

>> Tam forgive me it takes me a while like if Tam filed an harassment on you >> well I really don't like this

hypothetical scenario By the way, >> this is the paperwork. >> It's a super slippery slope.

>> She filed a harassment paperwork on you and it went to No Jumper HR. >> Is she like trying to Okay. It is the

security of this building that Murder Moo's baby mother lives in or wife >> is on the lease. Moo's not on the lease

filed this complaint saying Murder Moo was saying these things, doing these things.

>> But wait, is it a criminal complaint? A criminal citation? That's why I just gave you the example.

>> So, it's literally just at the building. So, it's okay. So, there's no paperwork to go over.

>> It is documentation. Is it criminal? No, >> but it's documentation. It's documented. Now, I don't know if they filed it. I

don't know how he got his hands on it, but whatever. But what got a little crazy is I did the thing with me and

Hitman on the 100 show YouTube channel. >> Mhm. >> I wake up today, guess who in my DM?

>> Moo. >> Moo. What are you talking about? >> Moo is a low Oh, he playing dirty.

>> Harlem in the building. >> Listen, I think Moo sack back and said, "Well, I know this mother kind of crazy

and ain't no telling how whack could take it." Look what he hits me with

in the gray. What' he say? >> Slay told me great things about you.

>> So, automatically, what do I have to do? meet you like all right you want

>> automatically >> dropped the number >> I got to turn down

>> that everybody know dealing with whack there's key people in his life whether they're [ __ ] old and seen now

that he's just going to respect and Klay drama is at the top of that list you mention his name to me and some

interactions I'm going to because now I'm superstitious is now it's like, okay, if Slay has told this man this

about me and he's reaching out to me because of his conversation with Slay, right?

>> Well, you know, Moo is connected because he was um you feel me? He was a part of Flip Mode and all that. He was rocking

with But yeah, like like >> and I'm going be real, I was 21

um and you can correct me. I was 21 Hitman. But I told Hitman this, you perform better with a aggressive

speaking battle rapper. Well, Moo Kilim is that laidback. >> Where that [ __ ] from? Harlem or

something? He from Harlem. Yeah, >> yakin. I knew it. That laidback. You know them Harlem [ __ ] they just like,

you know, they smooth with it. Moo. That his deliverance. His delivery is just different.

>> He also like I mean I think they're both known for their performances. There's a lot of battle rappers such as like let's

say Rum Niti, let's say Daylight, let's say Tay Rock. These are battle rappers that are known for their bar work. Both

MOO and Hitman is known for their performances and their angles. The culture seem to say that Moo smoked his

boots whack. I got to be honest with you, >> that seems to be the general consensus.

Um, I think I'mma go live on YouTube with Moo tomorrow because Hitman my guy and I

did a live with him. Moo and DM me talking about Slice spoke highly of you to me. So I can't do no blocking. I got

to now you know who else been in my ear? >> Who else?

>> Hitman. >> Verb. >> Oh, Verb. So all of Hitman's ops are

coming out the cut basically to try to >> Verb been in my ear. He talking about you heard what Moo said. He stole 20,000

using my name. And I still don't know what Verb talking about. But I Verb going to come to no jumper. Verb's

moving west. >> No, >> he moving to the west. Verb is moving to

the west. Same as we kidnap Verb. He coming to the west and when he get here, we ain't letting him go back.

>> I think that Verb need to make multiple no jumper appearances if we're being We going to come up here and sit with

whack. That's bro. We didn't built um >> he didn't build one R&B. He he ordered the book um Ego Exposed. That's on

Amazon. Her last one she wrote. Um and he ordered it and and he sent her a video letting him know what he thought

about it. >> Is he still a vegan? >> Yes.

>> Okay. >> Yes, he's still a vegan. So overall, because that's more your land in mind.

How many times did you watch the battle and who won the battle when it comes to Lush? Ask

who you are in battle rap. >> I got to be honest. Uh I feel like Moo took the battle. You know what I'm

saying? Like >> all three you give none of them. >> I'm uh it's difficult to equate rounds.

I I don't think there was a body. You could you could call it a gentleman's 30 or a 2-1 to Moo. You feel me? Um, I feel

like what it comes down to is Moo exceeded people's my expectations when it come to lyrics. Like he actually had

some really standout punches. We know Hitman's an incredible performer. He didn't seem like he was as comfortable.

Like you said, uh, Moo seemed like it was a he was on his front porch with a [ __ ] lemonade and his feet

kicked up. He was cozy as a mother. >> Did you see that? Hitman was talking to Moo's girl in the front.

>> Yeah, of course he was. And she never, you know, usually most chicks that be like, "You lying or something." She

didn't contest nothing man was saying. >> Do you think that Do you think that there's some legs there? But

>> it got I mean, bro, it got to be. But my thing was when it came to it, and I mean this respectfully,

who is Moo? Is Moo a Kendrick Lamar? Is he a goddamn a little derk? Do we expect Moo to have these millions and millions

of dollars? Or is Moo in a lane of rap that really never got really any real validity to say this about a rapper sign

of this contract and he's torn, he's doing this. So when you ask me whack, do you expect Moo to be papered up? No. Do

you expect Moo to be able to make a living somehow some way? Yes. So how do you define papered up? What is papered

up to you? >> Just being able to be comfortable and do what you want to do. If you want to jump

on the flight, whatever you want to eat, whatever you want to wear, wherever you want to live, you can afford that

because >> like how much annual income like like let's say you make

>> it's different. I mean, if we dealing with a a a blueco collar worker, you know, if a mother doing six figures,

180, >> you know what I'm saying? You doing >> uh you know, that's 15,000 a month,

right? You know, all right. I wouldn't fight that. You know what I'm saying? Because it's not like Moo's a mainstream

rapper who's going in and they giving me a check. We going to get you a million dollar advance and we going to spend

this money and we going to drop this and you're getting feature work. I don't know. Do battle rappers sell they do

they sell um rounds and [ __ ] Do they write for other

people? >> Oh yeah. No, absolutely. I mean, not only not not only they so like as far as

from an industry perspective, battle rappers are relegated to the ghost writing path. They're in various writing

camps. A lot of like I mean there's >> for mainstream artists. >> Hell yeah.

>> Okay, but let's be real. >> It's one thing to be in a go in a writing camp versus like you're the guy

like Cardi B. I forget his name. Yeah. Yeah. >> Who did 17 songs?

>> No, for sure. >> That's a different type of thing. Okay. So, in defense of Moo,

he's not in the mainstream of music deals. >> No, he's not like like the really the

last time battle rappers were even in that position for real is like Rhyme Fest who wrote Jesus Walks for Kanye,

you feel me? He was a battle rapper back in the late 90s like it's been decades. >> And I I I really want I got it.

>> King Los, too. >> Who? >> King Los.

>> He was he was writing for Diddy and [ __ ] King Los. Oh, yeah. I know him. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's fired.

>> He tried me one time. >> Did he? >> He had never tried me again.

>> King Los tried you? >> Yeah. I had King Los like this for about 15 minutes looking at a a a spot on the

wall calling me Mr. Waxer. >> Why? What? What? >> He tried me.

>> Damn. >> Yeah. He won't try me again. >> What do you do though?

>> Got a little belligerent for no reason. And I don't know. It was two women, you know, at the table with us. We was at

Chalice Studios, >> okay? >> And they was kind of asking me, "Yo,

whack, what's the difference between like studio life now and back in the day?" And I said, you know, back in the

day, it was a lot of wolves. A lot of these dudes, especially out of town dudes with Jew that got robbed,

>> you know what I'm saying? You know, which was real. You had the Teter rocks. You had dirty magics. You know, you had

certain dudes running around here that that's just what it was, right? And uh I'm just speaking in general and a dude

jumps up. He jumps up like he's maybe like right here

and says, "But nobody would have robbed me." >> Oh [ __ ]

>> [ __ ] I keep it on me. >> Oh, >> this what he says, right? I'm sitting

just like this looking at him. >> That's that DMV [ __ ] So I said, "So right now while you talking, you got it

on you." He said, "You damn." And he got the And I was on him. >> You disarmed King Los.

>> No, this would piss me off. I was on him. You know, [ __ ] with us OG's, we do [ __ ] different.

>> Yeah. First thing I did was quicker than people think. >> First thing I did was snatch the belt,

unbelted him, hit the waist, hit him. This what pissed me off cuz nephew there I think nephew there from 88 Avalon. He

was dead. So I'm telling myself >> he there with you. >> No he was, you know, he part. I'm

telling myself I'm about to bless one of the little homies with something >> with the belt

>> cuz cuz I didn't like the way he jumped up like that aggressive talking about he had something on him.

>> Long story short, he ain't got nothing on him. >> So now I'm really mad because now I

can't bless nephew them with the burner. M. >> So I made him sit down.

I made him sit down like this and stare at that wall while I had a conversation with him. Now I can only go

so far with him because he was he was a guest. You know what I mean? But uh >> he's not like a super um like by the way

like for people that have never seen this guy, he's not like a super thugged out looking dude by any means.

>> I don't know what he was. He thought he was he thought he was thugged out that goddamn day. I didn't understand why he

went there, but >> that's how it happened. And uh >> we talking about like the same King Los,

right, from Baltimore. He used to was like with Diddy back in the day and [ __ ] like

>> he was we doing what with Diddy? >> Oh, making music. >> No, he was doing well with Diddy. I

>> I don't I can >> We can talk about that too if you want to.

>> I don't know anything about that. >> You want to talk about that? We could talk. We could move on.

>> It sounds like >> So you must with King Loss. >> I thought he was cool, but now you're

making me like look at him in a whole different light. I wasn't aware. He was cool until he he tried to play uh Listen

to y'all people out there. I know y'all think we old and all this [ __ ] because y'all dying at 23, right? When I was

young, we didn't call [ __ ] old till they was in their 60s and [ __ ] Listen, we are very talented and gifted at what

we know how to do. Anybody that grew up want their uncles and [ __ ] we we fight different. We do everything different.

See, because because he's not from out here, he didn't realize a older gentleman, the calmer they get,

the deeper the plot is. >> But you would figure he knows who like people know who

>> I didn't understand why he did that. >> Like Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it was like maybe the girls were How fine are

these chicks that are >> They was from Englewood. They were they would they know what they told them. He

said, "We don't even know why you did that." Like you, you know, like he like I was I didn't understand it, but what I

was mad about is when I stripped him and patted him down, he ain't even have a pistol.

>> Damn, >> [ __ ] You did all that. Is it possible Keshir did like mad

quick? >> Diddy probably prepped him for that. You think Diddy got him ready for that?

>> I'm just saying preparation age. >> You think Diddy got him ready for that? >> It It could be.

>> There you go. Let's keep moving. >> I'm a bad boy. >> So, listen, man. Today, y'all,

I hit Lush. Adam is in New Hampshire, you know what I mean? Out there in the woods. I don't know what he's doing, you

know? Last thing I saw is he was sitting Indian style with some symbol in the ground and they was trying to light it

and I just like turned off the camera. I didn't want to know what was going on. So, I said, "Listen, man.

We got a a bunch of underground artists running around LA." >> That's true. or the West. I said, "I'm

going to put a post up and I'm going to see how people respond and you know, we going to get a few of these dudes in."

Right. Now, I thought today we was going to be sitting up here talking bad about both of them.

>> Mhm. >> But one of the gentlemen called me at 4:30. He was supposed to be at 5. He

said, "Whack them here." The other gentleman calls me at 5 and says I'mma be there at

5:30 and it's 5:38. Is he here? >> But I don't know where he at. But um we need to get nephew to come in here and

set up >> the other uh where where nephew Oh, he gone too.

>> What sign he sitting on? >> We could bro here. He can sit right here. He can put it right here.

>> Hey, let me ask you this, man. What's What's up with What was Adam doing out there in Hawaii, man? Yo, a little

birdie tells me and I ain't want to talk about it, >> man. All that

>> Sean is laughing at Adam. Bro, I'm hearing whatever was supposed to happen didn't happen. And I told I said,

"Bro, you'll never get no action out of Adam." I I hear he he flew out there and he got

a room and I think he was floating to a couple places. But I seen a backyard with some phone,

>> right? But our CEO, the atom that we know,

>> right? He ain't supposed to be summoned to [ __ ] like that. Who is I don't know what

happened. >> If it's I mean, if he's getting compensated properly, which you know,

somebody of his stature, you would assume it'd be >> I heard otherwise I

>> a sizable rate, right? I don't know if Adam did it for the love.

>> Okay. >> I heard that they were supposed to go out there and it was supposed to be some

uh Hawaiian bloods. >> And I heard they did do a a hood vlog, >> but but they never would tell them where

they was from >> like as far as like the origins of >> I don't know cuz I don't know. Now, I've

talked to some of these dudes on the phone with Alshan, but I really don't know what that was about because did any

of them are they on the radar or was Adam just trying to tap into a market maybe and get ahead of everybody? I

don't know. I mean, I've seen uh I've seen various documentaries and things like that. And I've actually and I and I

know some fools from out there that are like I don't know specific sets and things like that, but I know that there

are uh bloods out there in Honolulu. You feel me? Like >> I know when I went to I've been to

Honolulu, it been 25 years. It was boring and I didn't really, you know, you know, we was on little mopeds and

all that. >> You didn't get banged on by any Polynesians?

>> No, I took a flight. I went on a Polynesian tour. That was a little interesting.

>> I took a flight to Maui, I believe, from there. And it was even more laidback. Now, if you just enclose

a a $10 million deal and you just want to go kick back with your woman and just straight talk about y'all, Maui is a

great place to go cuz nobody's going to bother you. And there's nothing there that's going to get your attention

anyway, >> right? >> You know what I'm saying?

>> And you can lay low. It's not like >> you can lay low. >> It's not It's not like going to Turks.

>> I ain't saying ain't no >> Somebody has a nicer table, then you have to go ask a drug going on over

there. Something actually going on over there. So, listen. One of our guys is here now.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, we can't keep torturing him. You get what I'm saying? >> You know, I like what you actually said

uh said to me on the phone earlier, whack, and that was like the main thing that got me excited about just the

prospect of doing this was we were like, man, the whole the whole origin of No Jumper is based upon breaking new

talent. >> New talent, right? And um you know, like I said, I believe today we going to be

able to like show the talent what they're doing and what they're not doing. So we got FTG trap

>> that's already here. Now the crazy part about it is I didn't help so many people.

>> I picked the dude when I called talk to him. He like you don't remember me? I'm like hell no. I'm like remember you from

where? He said I was over there with uh what's nephew name? >> Uh Black Montana and and

>> press I still call him Buck. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I said, "Man, you know how many

people >> I would help?" "Hey, you you know I would stay out of your way." Was you

writing over there or what? So, you know, remember I lock up in the office. >> Yeah, you lock up.

>> I I'll be out your way. I got cameras. So, >> I don't know too much about you. Um

but I know Lush probably did some stud. What I do know is a lot of you guys who's put your names there. I went and

checked your socials. You had like three posts in nine months. So you was automatically, you know, disqualified.

You weren't working the YouTube, wasn't working your socials. I don't even want to hear your music. I'm going when you

tell me your stage name, I'm going to go to your Spotify. I'm going to go to your Instagram, your Tik Tok, Twitter, things

about that. If I see that you're making an attempt to work these, meaning applying them. I see three, four posts a

day at least going up things like that. Then I'mma listen to your music. When I went listen to your music,

you got some music. So then I tried I was I said, "Man, I couldn't figure out I I said, "Well, he got a lot of orange

maybe from interesting." >> I couldn't figure out where you was from, right? So I see I'mma wait till we

get on camera >> and see you know uh what whose jungle you come from.

>> I come from the jungle of Southern California, man. Long Beach. >> You from Long Beach?

>> Yeah. >> The insane side. >> It's crazy. Yeah. Like I'm from the same

street that uh Flame and Savvy Third from 21st and Lope. >> 21st.

>> I think I shot a video over there. >> I just shot a video over there. >> I think that's where Savvy was sitting

his little ass up on. Got you. So you from over there, but you don't gang bang.

>> I don't gang bang. >> That's great. >> Yeah,

>> that's great. >> Let me take these off, man. Real men in here.

>> What What was the catalyst to you making that decision? Cuz obviously you grew up amongst that pressure, right? So

>> honestly, I'm a I'm a little old. I'm not a Y, although my I'm aging like Benjamin Button. Um, shout out black

black people. >> Shout out to Benjamin Franklin for that. It's crazy, bro. I didn't know you was

from Long Beach. >> Yeah, man. And uh so the catalyst for me not gang banging is having two older

siblings that did and one of the dudes that I really l looked up to was born into it and he told me don't do it like

like not that that was ever really my my thing but he made it a point to be like oh you different do something different

>> and he was from the neighborhood he was from >> that's a real OG

>> but I'm going tell you what's funny >> because if you wouldn't answer

>> Yeah. And I had no idea you was from Long Beach. The next dude I was calling uh he goes by little slop s l o p lo and

he say doggy st. No he from long beach. I believe he from Long Beach. I think he from Long Beach.

>> If I had to Yeah, I heard a dude. >> Yeah. So listen, you was up next which means it's going to be a great chance

when we run it back someday. I'mma call on you. I seen him on there with Snoop. I hit Snoop. Yeah,

>> Snoop. You know him. He say not signed to me, but I with him. So that that's what was crazy. You just telling you

from Long Beach. So Long Beach is putting in they work. We got DW Flame over there.

>> Oh, yeah. TF Third. No. There's like an insane amount of uh uh Stupid Young. I don't even know.

>> Yeah, I heard it, bro. He He actually got some [ __ ] >> It's It's some people, man.

>> So So So you know, tell us about yourself. You you grew up in Long Beach.

>> Yeah. OG told you he didn't want you gang baby. >> Yeah. I was a skater man. Like um TK and

>> TK life. >> Yeah. Yeah. So like I was um my mom lived in Long Beach. My dad lived in the

valley. And so I would flip-flop back and forth. >> What's the What's like the hardest trick

you could do >> now? Or like at your at your peak? >> Oh, I I was I was

>> Ali kick flip. >> Okay. >> What part of the body your dad lived in?

He lived in Rita and Northridge. >> Oh, he was in the valley. Well, no, he was over there bought the SH.

>> Yeah, first we had lived in Northridge and then he >> Northridge is cool. Rita is ain't there

also Valley Gangster Crips out there, too? Like, >> so so growing up in my day,

>> ain't >> OBGC wasn't It really wasn't dead like that.

>> Okay. >> My dad's a OBG, my older brother. OVGs was just older dudes low riding

hustling. And what it did is when they went to jail, when a dude said OVG, you knew he was from Pqua. Okay.

>> He wasn't from Kenoga Park and all that. Later on, things happened and then OVGC. A lot of these gangs wasn't there in my

prime. >> It wasn't there. Was there Wit A? I heard about like

>> in my prime that wasn't there. >> Okay. >> It wasn't that it was that wasn't there

because our enemies was cats from LA who migrated to Panorama City. >> Okay. Yeah.

>> Right. The only thing we beat with North Hollywood was the North Hollywood boys. And because our parole office was over

there, we would get into it. But once I went to the penitentiary >> and I I want to say about 95 96 97,

>> I started to hear this wited a and then lied streets and all these Cuban rob them.

>> The generation behind me, they know about that >> cuz that's like my age. I was 16 in like

1998 and I remember them gangs and [ __ ] existing. It was it was one of the dudes I talked to.

>> Um he ended up getting killed from Wit A. Uh he was rapping. >> Okay.

>> Big dude. I forget his name. >> Um he was right. He got killed in Palmdale. Somebody shot him out of

McDonald's or something. And me and him was I believe he might have been signed in Spider Lope.

>> Whoever this dude I I I can't I can't remember his name. Real big dude. But he was he was a cool dude. But um but I I

had like I have no war stories with wit a cuz that just they wasn't around in my era in my generation.

>> I also wanted to ask you about that. That's okay. That's it. >> Yeah. I have no I I couldn't like I

couldn't tell you three names. I know the one dude cuz he was a rapper. He reached out to me and

um he was on some gangster [ __ ] He had got into it with a dude from my neighbor. I'mma put him out there cuz he

was a buster anyway. He had got into it. His name might have been knocked out or it'll come to me, right? Payback.

>> Payback. >> There you go. Payback. >> Him and a [ __ ] from my neighborhood

name called itself Valley Rue had got into it over abroad. So somehow he got my number. He calls me. He said, "Hey,

Whack, this Big Payback, that's him from Whist." I said, "What's up, homie?" He said, "Whack, I ain't got no issues with

you, but your homie Valley Ruth, cuz Valley R was kind of related to my right hand, Pada." Now, Pada locked up at the

time, right? >> But see, Valley R is a dude that I told you, not a gang member. You don't need

to be gang banging. So, I never respected him as that. I said, "Well, what's your point?" He said, "We get

into it behind a broad. This ain't no street shit." He said, "But the [ __ ] was woofing and told me when he see me,

he what he going to do?" So, I find out where he work. I'm at his job. Can you tell him to come out here and run the

fade? >> This real [ __ ] >> No, this real [ __ ] So I called I called

around to get the dude root number, right? >> Yeah.

>> Called him. I said, "What's up?" He like, "What's up, big homie?" I said, "Yo, uh, Payback from Wity. You know

him?" He had that bust ass. I said, "What a bust ass is in the parking lot outside right now."

>> And he said he been calling you and you know what's going on. He said, "Well, whack. Um, I'm at work." I said, "Well,

he could have came in the job and your job would have been over with now. So maybe you may want to take a break and

go out to address." I said, "I tell you what. What time you get off work?" I have him double back,

>> right? Yeah. 5:00. Hold on. Hey, payback. What's up, Whack? [ __ ] get off at 5:00. He think whatever. All right,

Whack. So, Whack, you telling me this cuz I said, "Payback. You called me as a man, right?" Right. I'm not We not

coming down there 5:00. Payback back 4:45. >> No punctual. Punctuality is important,

right? >> He back 4:45. He called me. Whack. What up? Payback.

I'm out here. Hey, B rude. What up? You ain't working on overtime or nothing? Nah. Nah, nah. Well, he out there.

Payback hit me at 5:15. >> Whack. Where he at? He ain't come out. >> Listen.

>> No. I called Valley Rule. What you think happened when I called him? No answer. He already

>> Yeah, he >> no answer, right? So, I got to respect um payback, man. That this is my first

interaction with him, right? So, then as time goes on, I'm telling the homies, "Hey, dude's a mark." He he ain't even

from over here. His daddy from OVG, a OG dude named um uh I forget his name. He's doing life. Um Shashani Shony Shashani

is >> Wait, did Rally Rune knock his [ __ ] or the other way around? Like, who took

whose [ __ ] I don't know how it went, but however it went, >> it got

>> Payback didn't give a he was only addressing the disrespect. >> Okay.

>> Right. And I think Valley Ru was playing on it could turn into a hood thing. >> Okay.

>> But Payback was gangster enough to isolate it. >> Yeah.

>> Right. This is real real talk. Hey, I call it spade of spade. So check it out. So I'm telling the homie, hey man, get

that whatever. You know, he ain't damn one. Listen to me. Valley Run them go on a mission

>> with a stud chick. Two, three homies >> behind. They got into it with some

essays somewhere over abroad. >> Damn. >> They go over there, wet the house up.

>> I guess there kids out there. All this [ __ ] right now. I've been telling B roof for years, you not a street dude. You

need to go back home to Kenoga Park. >> Yeah, >> right. Oh, homie, you ain't this. Okay,

cool. do your thing. So they all go to jail, right? Vi Ru get 99 years. >> Damn.

>> Hold on. >> Numbers. >> So now you thinking, well, you turned

up. You know what I'm saying? You right. Very rude get the reception. They transfer the reception to his first

penitentiary. He go to mother classification. What you think he told him?

>> Fresh 99 years. >> Yeah. >> I give my life to the Lord. I no longer

want a gang though PCB up. >> Now if he had just listened to me prior to

>> he could avoided these 99 years. >> See listen people when somebody comes from that

>> and we telling you you not that is because we've seen you before. See it was a you before you in our era and we

seen what happened to them which is going to happen to you. >> Yeah. The cold part about it is the

busters in our areas was more gangster busters than you busters in this era. I can line the busters in our area era

with the busters in this era and they'll run through these [ __ ] >> Oh yeah. Know our bust.

>> Two total different kind of busters. Oh yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? So Oh, is he

here? >> Yeah, he pulling up right now. >> Oh, okay. So I guess that and you know

I'm I'm sad to say the other dude we picked is a dude named Pet. He actually go crazy too or or I should say break.

>> Listen, I >> I think I chose two great people, right? >> You got some spitters.

>> I never I met him not remembered I met him, >> right? And it's starting to come to me.

You was pinning for somebody. >> Yeah. >> You pinned for somebody and I can't

remember who. I remember >> I remember you was working with with Press Play.

>> Yeah. >> Cuz I remember you was you was I don't know who it was. cuz you was pinning for

somebody. It's coming back to me, >> but I never knew you was a rapper rapper yourself. I knew you was away from it.

And then I It's a It's a story behind that. >> So then this other dude I did the pick,

he he just so happened to be. >> He's a damu. I think he out of Carson. >> Yeah,

>> he out of Carson somewhere. His name is Pog, >> but quite naturally homies. I told him

today >> he tried to hit me when I called him. Where you at? With the P. Hey, this

business Paul Ru ain't got nothing to do with the business. >> I said, I'm going to tell you what you

did. You went and got to picking your homies up. They want to stop, get blunt, stop over here,

>> get weed. >> No, you can't do that. >> Life doesn't always have a plus one.

>> Most people would have just said you're cancelled. But >> the

>> I want to I want to troll him a little bit. You understand what I'm saying? Because

music today, and I hope you realize this, >> talk to me.

>> Is not just music. >> Yeah. It's It's a lot of It's a lot of underlying issues that go into it. Now,

>> it's more You take a dude that's musically talented. >> Yeah.

>> But doesn't put out content. You take a dude that's content driven >> and not as musically and not as music.

>> I say it all the time. the dude that's putting out the content is gonna win before

>> 10,000%. I'm actually have a difficult question for you because you know being from Long Beach and you know you're not

a member but obviously you know affiliated or grew up around it and all that. Long Beach is a city known for

heavy racial tension. You know what I'm saying? There's some of the as far as gangs go some of the worst beef, you

know, between different races in LA County. Did did you ever feel that or was like are you like as a non-member do

you feel like you're kind of like that you don't feel that pressure? >> I feel like

I'm a social justice person myself you feel me? I was raised Muslim. Uh I was a part of the you know FOI growing up till

we changed to Orthodox. I the first story I have we had uh I was probably like seven. We walk into the Pike, which

was the Long Beach Mall, and this dude, my brother, had the Charles Barkclays on.

>> Oh, I love the Barkclays. Who's get stripped for the Barkclays? >> That's what just that's what tried to

happen. So, I had on some some Jordans. I I don't know, probably like some threes or whatever. And he was like, it

was a Spanish dude. He was like, you know, hey, what size is your shoes? And my brother was like, oh, I think he wore

like a six. He was like, they're like a six, six and a half. He was like, yeah, that's my size. He was like, "Um, why

don't you take him off?" He was like, "No, cuz they look better on my feet." >> Older or younger brother?

>> My older brother. >> That gang bang. >> Your brother. Oh, see, I gotta say it.

He was on some buster [ __ ] >> He should have said your size. Yeah, that's what we said.

>> Your size. Your size. >> Low key. I think that is what he said. >> Your size your shoes.

>> I think that's your size. Your size. >> Yeah. Okay. So, but mind you, this is >> y'all also kids, right?

>> We are. But, but mind you, he like in seventh grade. >> Oh, yeah. He's still young. So, he

still, you know, maybe 15, 16. Let's Let's rephrase it. He said, "Johai."

>> He said, "Yo." Yeah. >> Yeah. So, then the dude was like, "Well, take him off." He said, "No, they look

better on my feet." Like, what you going to do about it? That's where I was rounding it up. What you going to do

about my shoes being on my feet? >> So, this is the thing. So, >> but that was like

>> at the time was your brother. He was from He was gang. >> He wasn't gang banging at the time. He

was gang. He did later though. Later on. So now I'm trying to see where his mentality was. Cuz if he was gang

banging when he said take him off, he was supposed to fight him. >> But if he wasn't, I can understand him

trying to get understanding. >> I don't think he start banging till like 8th, nth grade.

>> Yeah. He's trying to get understanding on just really what is going on. >> See, see whack like and you kind of I

feel like being who you've been who you are for a long time. >> Since I've been a pup.

>> So So when I was 12, you feel me? Going to the malls of Los Angeles and all that.

>> [ __ ] I was on a run. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. At 12. Yeah. I caught it. This We going to clear this

up now. >> Yeah. Let's clear it up. >> So, 12 years old, I start gang banging.

So, back in the days, we had BB guns and plet guns. >> The OG. You can do what you want. The OG

Daisy. So, I had the plet gun with the CO2. >> Oh, hell yeah. It look like a real 19

caliber joint. >> So, we in the back shooting cans, right? Me and a few of the homies in the block.

and I went in to go put a new uh CO2 card in my [ __ ] right? >> Yeah.

>> So, I guess maybe one of the beews or something went through the gate and hit one of the little kids and leg or

something. Right. So, when I'm in the back, I'm loading up my my my little pellets and put my card and put another

park in my pocket so I got to come in. As I'm making my way to the door through the front of the house, I hear my mom

talking to a Spanish dude with broken English. And she was like, "Hold." Cuz she didn't know what we was back there

doing. She was like, "Hold on, hold on. let me see what's going on. He like my kid, you know, he's pointing. So when I

came out the corner, he saw the pellet gun in my hand. And she said him, him, him. She said, "No, not him. He's been

in the house. Let me see." And he said, "No, [ __ ] Him." >> Oh, yeah.

>> So when he said, "No, [ __ ] Him." >> Oh, yeah. >> I'm like, I'm up on him now.

>> Oh, yeah. He >> I go to popping him. I'm popping him, right? So he's a grown man. I'm 12. He

grabbed my arm, right? But I'm I'm I'm just squeezing firing off, >> right?

>> I ain't knowing I ain't knowing the damage is doing it. >> That [ __ ] hurt from up close.

>> I got I got a fresh >> CO2 CO2. >> So they really Yeah, they jerking I'm on

him, right? >> Because I'm knowing I got to I got to damage this fool cuz he a big old grown

man, right? So I'm popping and he really did it to himself cuz everywhere he's moving my hand, I'm feeding him.

Yeahoop, I'm I'm feeding him. I get off for him like 20 30 times. >> Well, you could have taken his eye out

easily, bro. >> No, listen. The [ __ ] pass out. So, I get on. So, now I'm on the run.

>> Oh, >> my oldest brother, he hustling. So, I'm with him. All kind of crazy [ __ ]

went on doing that, deal with them times, right? So, I'm hiding out. I remember one day with my sister-in-law

and she forgot. I call her as right now. And I'm laid back. That's when the Cherokee Jeeps was

in, right? And I'm laid back in the seat sleeping and police had already been sitting on the house looking for me,

right? >> Waiting on it. >> And when I woke up, she pulled in my

mama's driveway. And when I raised up, I said, "What?" I said, "Why the hell?" It was too late. They sworn

>> and I went to jail. It was my first time. >> You 12?

>> 12? No. I went to Semar Juvenile Hall >> unit AB. Mr. Smitty was a senior. That's when me and my douche from LA.

Uh, Lil B, Lunch Meet, Crrenshaw Mafia. Uh, you know, uh, believe it or not, I was locked up back then with dude. He

from DRock. He been on the internet. I think his name was Blue Rag. Okay. >> He was in there with us. Um, you know,

so then then that's where my that's where my stint started from there. Just kept rolling.

>> So, um, we just had a dude coming to Rook. >> Oh, yeah.

>> Hey. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Come on over here. Hey man,

>> 601, >> which I knew that what it was because negro time is always add an extra 30

minutes. >> CP time. >> They said [ __ ] CP time. I'm from

Cabbage Patch though. >> That where you from? I don't know. CP time.

>> You from Carson? >> I'm Carson Power. >> You from Cabbage Patch.

>> But I think to the homies, we ain't always late. We had hell traffic on the way.

>> Oh no, you got a earful. Hey, Wack gave me a earful for show. See, listen. If I wasn't

if I wasn't if I wasn't a real homie >> I would have just said oh no it's straight but see

>> yeah n >> this thing we in >> this is a business

>> n for sure >> music is a business >> for sure let's say

I had stat quote or Drake or somebody here that I didn't say hey bro I want you to meet this dude all whack 5:00

>> like a homie I >> State Farm is dead.

>> Listen, he tells me cuz I don't know he a homie when I selected him, right? >> He he had people like rooting for him. I

went to his music said, "Okay." So >> when I called him yesterday, he come and said, "Hey,

>> 5:00, not 5:30, 5:00." >> But I think what happens >> Uhhuh.

>> with my homies is they say, "That's the homie. That's what they say. >> And that's how it work.

>> The whack was going to be on my ass. >> That's how it work. >> Look, that's how it works in the street

though. >> Now, the reason why you don't get no passes cuz I know when I posted you, I