Dr. Paula Langhoff's Near-Death Experiences Fact Check

I have Dr. Paula Langhoff. She's had two near-death experiences, one as a child, one as an adult, and she saw I mean, the

things that she saw in heaven, wow. She saw a planning room in heaven with angels rearranging our timeline

by the decisions we make. And you think end times are totally set in stone? Nope, it's adjustable because what she

saw is an adjustable timeline, not only with your life, but with the end times. Okay, Dr. Paula, take me back to a child

when you were a child. Um I was born in a Midwestern family, average family. We were Catholics. Um we went to church,

but that's pretty much where it ended. There was no understanding that we had to have a relationship with Christ. Um

so as a little child, I'm looking at the altar and there's this huge crucifix of Jesus Christ. And I'm looking at him and

and like thinking to myself, you know, I must have been a really bad kid if he's hanging up there. And I wondered, when

does he come down from the cross? Not understanding that he already did do that. And so that's kind of my frame of

reference of of theology at age six, right? Um and even though I had a very rough birth, um I was born My mom had a

lot of complications and she and I both almost died. God still like kept his promise to me and I'll talk about that

um when we get into into the story of it. Um and so here I am a little girl and I'm

um in my room one day and I'm playing and I'm making I like to play mass. I pretended it was Latin mass, so I knew

the words, I didn't know what they meant, and I would recite the parts I remembered. And I was making little

communion wafers out of bread squares, so I had a little plastic tea set. So just a child doing childlike things. And

one day in this day, I felt a presence in the upper corner of the room. This just this heavy presence. But I

instantly knew that it was God the Father. And I looked up to him and I said,

"God, I want to marry your son Jesus one day." In the full innocence of really believing that I could do that. And I

felt like his delight. And then the presence lifted. It was gone. And so that's really charming and everything,

but it seems like that sort of opened the door for the enemy to just come and wreak havoc in our lives. We lost a

sibling. My mom was carrying a child. She lost that. We had an accident. My head hit a windshield and shattered it.

Um you know, we didn't wear seat belts back in those days. This was the '60s, you know. And yet God saved me in in

each of these things. There were other things going on. Um and so shortly after that, I'm laying in bed one night and I

have I have brothers and they had their own bedrooms. Um but I had a bedroom to myself.

And I was laying in bed and I could hear my parents arguing downstairs. And I felt kind of bad cuz part of the

argument was about something I did that day. I don't even remember what it was. And I was just thinking, "Gosh, you

know, this is awful. They argue a lot. Times were tough. My dad was working. He also went to school. We had very thin a

thin budget, you know. So things were hard. And um all of a sudden I felt this presence

enter into my bedroom. Now, it didn't look like anything was there, but I could feel in the spirit. I'm sort of a

uh a feeler in the spirit. I I see things in the spirit sometimes. I feel things. Um and

so that's how God kind of interacts with me. Um so this thing came in the room and it was probably about the size of a

child. And it spoke to me in my spirit and I could hear it very clearly just as if you're talking to me. And it said, um

do you want do you want to be friends? I want to be your friend. And I'm a little kid, so I'm wide open

and I'm like, okay, I need another friend, you know. Um, so let's be friends. And so this

thing, this presence, which was on my left and I'm laying in bed, um, it sort of felt like a little black cloud, but

it didn't really strike me as as evil right away. I just had a little bit of trepidation. I was kind of like, uh,

don't really know you, but okay, we'll be friends. So it proceeds to tell me, do you hear

your parents arguing downstairs? Do you want to know how you can make it stop? And I said, well, yeah, what child

doesn't want to have their parents not fighting, right? So I'm thinking, oh, I can do something to make it stop.

And in truth, I can't at that point. But this presence is talking to me. Hey, you know, when you were sick, uh, recently,

you had chicken pox, you were given aspirin in that. If you go into the hallway and you get some aspirin and you

take some, um, you'll just you'll have a little bit of a tummy ache, you'll get a little

sick, and you can tell your mom and dad you don't feel good, they'll come up and they'll love on you, and then the

fighting will stop. So I was kind of like, yeah, but I don't really want to get sick. And he's like, no, no, no,

you'll just get a little bit sick. It'll be okay. Um, like, we kept arguing for a while, right? And finally I give in to

this presence and I go, okay, fine, I'll just go do it, maybe then this thing will leave me alone. So I go and I

I actually go three times. It's like I the first time it's like, it's not enough, go get more. I'm like, okay. And

these were like orange flavored, you know, St. Joseph's baby aspirins kind of thing or, you know, it was kind of like

that, it was some other brand, but um, it convinced me to do it three times, and by the time I was done, at least,

I'd say between a half and three quarters of the bottle was eaten. And I'm a little kid.

And so the dose that I had really was an overdose. And I didn't know anything about it. didn't know anything about,

you know, overdosing. I didn't know anything that other than I would get a little bit sick cuz that's what the

thing said. And as soon as um my brother heard me up for the third

time, he's like, "Mom." You know, so I got read it on. She's yelling at me, you know, "Get back to bed or I'm going to

come up there and, you know, spank you." Basically, it wasn't the word she used. It was stronger, but I

was like, "Okay, fine." So, fear put me in bed. And then this presence says to me, "That's it. Now you've done it. Now

you're going to die." Cuz I was not feeling good at this point. I was having trouble breathing. My heart was beating

rapidly. I felt really out of it. And I was like, "Man, I feel sicker than I've ever felt before." Right? Well, I just

took I don't know how many milligrams of baby aspirin, right? No concept. And so then this thing flattened. I'm like,

"Great. Some friend." You know? And um all of a sudden I'm really struggling to

breathe. And I'm afraid cuz if I tell my parents, I know I'm going to get, you know, spanked. That's

magnified in my mind as a kid. Of course, that's not going to happen, but and so the next thing I know is

everything went pitch black. It's not like I fell asleep. It's like someone just pulled a curtain over me and it was

blacker than black. And at that moment, there was absolute peace. It wasn't like I feel sick

anymore. I was just out, you know? So, I'm in a different space, if you will. And I'm going, "Okay. This is weird."

You know, I'm just a little kid. I have no frame of reference whatsoever. Everything's blacker than black, if

that's a way to describe it. It's just pitch black. And yet I can see myself, you know? I

can see my hands and that. And the next thing I know, I am being whisked is really just very quickly um into this

tunnel. And it's it's huge. And it's coated with It's like you're outside in outer space.

Only you're not in a capsule or anything, but you're just there. But it you can tell that it's a tunnel.

And it's stars. I'm seeing stars. I'm seeing like our Milky Way galaxy. I'm being shown planets and things and I'm

like, "Wow, this is really neat." cuz I'm a little kid. My dad liked to look in his telescope and I was interested in

that. And then all of a sudden, whoosh, we're going super, super fast. And everything's just, you know, like on the

show Star Trek where things are just warp speed. That's what it was like. And it's peaceful and it's quiet and I can't

hear anything, but I'm seeing these stars and these planets and these things just going by me and these bright lights

and, you know, I'm seeing what are to me I would translate it as angels, okay? Going past me and all of a sudden, foop,

I'm plopped into this completely different It's like instant scene change, right? But it's not a vision.

You're you're there. You can feel. You have senses beyond what you have here. It's real. It's more real than here than

human life. Which how do you even explain that, right? I'm in this field and it's bright. It's a blue sky, no

clouds, no sun, just brightly lit warm summer day type atmosphere. The smells are beautiful. The colors are

they're liquid. You know how oil and water when light shines on it, it kind of has a sheen that changes in that?

Well, the colors are kind of like that, but the greens are more vivid. The browns are more vivid. It's It's They're

They have a depth to them somehow. And it's all alive. The grass blades are perfect and they're alive and I can see

my feet. I'm transparent, but I'm barefoot cuz I'm a little kid. I'm in my pajamas. I can see that. And I'm looking

around. There's a whole tree grove off to my left and there's a mountain a snow-capped mountain in my

background. And there's hills to my right, but I'm in a field and there's flowers and these flowers would like

laugh and sing as you're walking through them. You can't crush them. So, that's really I found that really

super cool as a kid. I'm like, "Wow, look at this. This is neat." You know, who who doesn't like to be in a field.

And so, then I'm starting to run, but the moment I look at the hill and I see that there's a brick building there and

some stuff going on, I'm just transported there. I don't have to walk or run. You can, but the moment you

think something, you're just there. So, now I'm sort of on this hill and I'm looking and there's a red brick

building to my left and I'm a little kid. I didn't like look up to see all that was there. But what got my

attention was this portico, this round courtyard thing with pillars. And actually had my last house had that kind

of a setup in the living room and that's what I really liked about it. Um and this the top of it is open, so it's out

in a little uh courtyard, green grass, that. And there's angels standing around this huge table.

And I'm like tugging on an angel's gown and and he I'm looking up and cuz he's super tall.

From a kid's perspective, he's like 8 ft tall. And he looks down and it's like, "What do you What is it?" And I said,

"What are you doing?" And this angel picks me up and puts me on the table like you do

with a child over a table so I can see what's going on. And the angel's explaining to me and in he's just in a

white gown. I don't see any wings at this point on these angels, but they're standing around this table and there's

there's at least five or six of them and it's a big table. So, in my estimation, it would be probably uh 6 ft by 5 ft,

okay, in in size. It's that big. I said, "What are you doing?" And they said, "Look, this is what we're doing. We are

um this is this this is the the plan for your life and it looked like a three-dimensional little board game like

the game of life only it was real. It was a real like city and country and and hills and roads and people and cars and

it was really interesting, you know, I'm like this is like a miniature little world here. They said, "Well, these are

This is the path of your life and every decision you make, you can choose to go this way and you'll meet up with these

people here or if you go over here, you'll meet up with these people here." And no matter what way I went, like a

board game, I got to the end and I won cuz I'm a believer, right? I never fell through that board. So, I was like,

"Well, that's interesting." cuz I'm a kid, right? And so, they put me back down, but it's profound to think about

that of how how intricately and it's not like God didn't have this complete. What happened with me, it's kind of like a

bleed through, if you will. It's like I made a choice that was premature, okay? Or God allowed that to happen so that I

could come back and tell people that this exists in the in the supernatural realm, okay? And the angels were saying,

"Well, we're rearranging some things." Um it's almost like one of the angels didn't do his job right or something.

So, which which is, you know, possible. They have free will cuz hell was prepared for the devil and his angels

that chose to leave their first estate. So, angels have free will, but they choose the ones that are in heaven, they

choose to serve God and they do it very faithfully. So, they put me down and I'm kind of walking around the courtyard a

little bit and I look at the door to this red brick building and I go inside. I'm like a kid, I'm just going to

explore. And the first thing I see is it It kind of looks like backstage of a theater. To my right, there's a table

and there are these these people, these beings in white gowns, white hair, well, men had white beards, and they're

sitting at this table. They get up and they leave all except for one, and I understand them instantly to be elders.

I'd never heard the word elder at that point. Didn't know what that was. Never read a Bible. Didn't know anything about

scripture. Nothing. The elders all left except one, and he was writing something.

And I'm like, what, you know, what are you doing? And he doesn't answer me. And so, I'm just kind of like looking

around, looking around. And um, I haven't shared this part with anybody, so you're the first one to hear it, but

I asked the Lord if I could talk about it, and it's it's just a little bit, but actually got to

go through a door, and I entered into the back of the throne room of God. Not, he doesn't have doors in

his throne room, but that's how it was presented to me. And so, in this throne room, it's so

overwhelming because it's there's no ceilings, no walls, no nothing. There's a floor, and it is sapphire blue, but

it's also glass. So, you can see through it. And I could see down there, there were clouds. I could see the earth below

if I looked down through the floor. And I thought that was really amazing, right? But the things that got my

attention, I struggled to describe other than to say that there was there's a there's light light rainbow archway

thing over the throne. I can only see the back of the throne, but the Father was seated on the throne. This is what

he allowed me to see. And there were these creatures that I think the book of Revelation does a

good job of saying that they have four faces, and there were creatures with multiple wings, six wings.

I can't describe, but I remember seeing these multi-faced creatures, and they were just like

odd, I mean, your jaw just drops when you look at them, because how do you describe the magnificence of things

you've never seen before and you don't know what it is and that's the Holy Spirit shaking my hand. He does that. Um

that's the presence of God. He's made me an intercessor. So, I'm in this throne room not understanding but the glory is

just like ah, it's just awesome. I can hear singing and angels are flying around and

you know, the holy holy holy angels. They're out there doing that, okay? It's all in the scripture. Praise God. So,

I'm like, okay, that's neat and I think an angel basically was like, it's time to go, escorted me out but I'm back in

the the backstage part and the elders still sitting there writing and I said, I want to go back

cuz I figured, okay, I saw everything. I'm done, right? And he says, no, you're not ready.

And I'm like arguing with him. No, I want to go back cuz at this point I'm thinking and it's not a negative

thought. It's just I'm somewhere where I'm not supposed to be because I was in bed and and I'm thinking rationally

if I'm not in bed and my parents come up and find me, you know, I'm going to be in trouble, right? But it's not a

negative thought like that kind of thing in heaven cuz there's no negativity there at all.

It's just fact and truth and all purity and light and goodness and everything that's positive. There's not even any

evil words there. So, it's that's what's so cool about heaven. It's peace. It's light. It's love. It's complete freedom.

It's everything you can imagine and then some on infinite levels and we only get a small glimpse of that, a taste, okay?

And you just know this. There's things that are downloaded to your spirit that you just know the instant you're out of

your body. Like you know who God is and who you are and that there's nothing you can do to be saved and have eternal

life. It's just instantly there and you can't even argue because you know that you're the sinner. I mean, it's just

that's the way it is, right? So, I get out of this building, and I look off to um what would be the left,

and there's another hill, and there's people up on this hill, and they're dressed in what looks like street

clothes, but they're all white. So, everybody's wearing white up there, and they're coming out of this big crystal

glass-like, I don't know what it was made out of cuz it was shimmery, kind of building, kind of like prismatic, but I

don't know if it was glass or what it was, and they're carrying books. And now, I'm a little kid, and I just

learned to read, and I like I like books, so I was like, "Ooh, I want to go to that library." So, instantly I'm

there. I didn't even have to walk. I'm just right there, transported. And now, I'm standing in a big room

that, you know, I have a couple books behind me here, but this is just walls of books, shelf after shelf, just solid

books. And there's an angel with me, and um he doesn't have wings, either, but I know that he's an angel, and he's

in white. And he says uh I said, "What are all these for?" And he

said, "These are the books of everybody's life." So, basically, you have a life, you're in a book. That's

the story God wrote about you. And he keeps the ones that he loves, and I kind of got the impression that if our story

can't be rewritten, it's like an author would just throw the pages in a burn pile, and you know, start over with

something else. But But that's not how it works in heaven, but that's the impression I got as a 6-year-old, right?

These are all the good books. And so, I was like, "Well, can I see mine? Can I see my book?" And the

angel's like, "No, that would, in essence, it'd be like cheating, right? You can't You can't see what's in your

book while you're living your life, cuz that's It's actually still being written. Your story's still being

written. Although it was written long ago, you're acting it out down here. It's really basically what it is."

So, I'm like, "Okay, fine." And so then I leave that room and there's a like a guardian angel and he's really tall.

He's probably 8 to 10 ft, maybe 12, I don't know. He's really tall.

And he has a white gown on. He does have wings. He has a um a waistband and then he has this

thing on his forehead that's like a band. So, it's just like a gold band.

And he has some kind of an implement or I wouldn't say it's a weapon, but I I guess it's some kind of a weapon, a rod

or staff or something. And I'm like, "Okay." And then the next thing I know, I'm just back in my body

and it's the next day and now I'm I'm waking up as if I had been asleep, although this wasn't asleep. It was very

active and physical and tactual and tactile. And um

I I'm like, "Oh, I'm back in my body, but I feel kind of ill like I guess as an adult would have like a

hangover or something. Just uh you're off." And I never said to anybody what I had done, but my mom kept me home from

school for a couple days as if I had like a stomach flu, you know? But I'm like, you know, "Mhm, I'm not telling

anybody what I saw because nobody talked about these things. There was no reference. Like, how do you tell someone

I just went to heaven, you know?" And God had told me that I died and while I was there, I should probably say I had a

very brief life review and it was just me in the womb and God actually showed me when he was knitting me in the womb

how he was speaking me into existence, if that makes sense. I remember time in the womb. I have vivid memories of the

cord and of my hands and the feeling of getting tighter and tighter and waiting for something. I hear heard muffled

voices from the outside. I could sense light and dark. Um Um, wasn't cognizant the whole time, but I was cognizant for

parts of time and for part of my birth and then shortly after my birth, which again was very traumatic and we both

almost died. But, I remember the Father's voice speaking to me and telling me things about my life and

being here and who he was. So, I had that impression. And that's all I can elaborate on it

other than those babies in the womb are cognizant. They're aware. And they know what's going on to a

certain degree. And so, anyone that just calls it a clump of cells, which I was lied to in my life about that.

Um, anybody that calls it a fetus instead of a human being, they're just wrong. They just don't know what they're

talking about. And that's really important to bring back. So, here I'm a little kid and, you know,

life was kind of average, normal. I climbed trees. I did kid stuff. Um, but but I

started getting um, attacks from the enemy because once you've really tasted heaven, that light comes back with you.

And so, the enemy is like, you're a prize. He wants to take you out, right? So, any opportunity he has to do that,

it's like he's going to try to do that, but your your life and your breath is in the hand of the Lord, okay? And even

more so. So, he's holding on to you tightly because you're his. And you have a job to do, right? Um, but I wouldn't

know that for many years later. And so, there were different times in my life where um, where he would attack and

I would be like, you know, okay, what am I going to do? I can't get out of this. And you know you can't get

out of it. Like, I'm a little kid. I'm riding my bike across a busy street. My chain falls off. Traffic's about to hit

me and all of a sudden, whoosh, I'm taken to the other side of the road and I don't know how I got there. You

know, those types of things were going on in my life. One time a guy tried to get me in the back of his car in the

late '60s and um, a voice said run run and I did and it turned out later a couple weeks later on TV his his face

was on TV. The guy was dressed like an old lady. I knew something was off. Right, when he approached me and he

wanted me put groceries in his car and I'm a girl scout. I'm like yeah, okay. I'll do that. But then he wanted me to

get in the car and then I heard the voice go run. So this was actually a a suspected serial killer who was luring

children my age um into his car. He had seven or eight victims already and they caught him. And

so I might have not been here today had that voice not spoken and I obeyed, right? So these types of things were

going on in my life. So [snorts] I was 17. I graduated high school and there was a lot of contention in our

household. One of my parents was abusive. It was um not what you would think. A lot of

physical abuse. Um I don't want to glorify evil, but just the extent of it. Getting things busted

over my head. Really painful stuff, you know, spending time in my closet crying and stuff like that. God hears

us in those cries. He's with us in those moments. He's helping us to endure these things, even horrific things. And so

even I had a telephone smashed over my head amongst other things and that's that's hard. You're getting hit hard,

right? And so here I am and one day I'm about to get punched in the face and I stopped the abuser's hand in midair and

I I found my voice. I said you're never going to ever do this to me again. And they said okay, fine. You have 15

minutes. Pack your stuff and get out. And I'm 17. I'm a minor, right? And but I have a job. I just bought a car and I

was doing pretty good, but I'm like I don't have anywhere to go and they said I don't care.

So I had to leave. It's like hello, plopped into life. You're you're now an adult whether you like it or not. And I

wasn't a bad kid. I wasn't drinking and doing drugs or anything like that. I just wasn't going to tolerate this

abuse. And when I had held that person's hand, in their eyes it flashed what looked like serpent's eyes, just

for a moment. And I was like, "What?" And it was scary because I'd never heard or seen anything like that. And you

know, people talk now about reptilians and all of that. What it is is it's the devil manifesting in that person's eyes,

okay? They're not a reptilian. They're not an alien. It's a demonic force, okay? This person was demonized and they

were delivered and they're they're they're actually in heaven now, believe it or not. God showed me that. But they

were abusive and um before they died, they repented. And so, I received that repentance and forgave

them also. So, they're in glory, praise God. You know, that Jesus can forgive as long as we are willing to forgive as

well. Um but if we hold on to that anger and that grief and the stuff from our past

that the enemy's trying to keep us in bondage to, and we can't forgive, Father says he

will not forgive us. So, it's so important. You don't have to forgive it and gee, we

forget it. You forgive it because they don't know what they're doing. They're demonized, these people, okay? Some of

them are possessed, which is really awful, okay? But you have to forgive because without that, you can't be

forgiven. That's just It's just really that simple. And it And it's just black and white. It works that way. So, we

have to do that. Um so, I saw that and that was really my first visual experience seeing a demon. Well, I would

see a lot more after that because I wasn't living the way God wanted me to in terms of I believe Jesus. I love

Jesus. I never read a Bible at this point. Um I didn't know anything about scripture. Yeah, I had a Bible that

someone gave me, but I never bothered to open it up. So, I'm living in the world and I'm thinking, I can't be by myself.

I must have relationships. And I'd pick the wrong people. You know, the wrong people every time.

And so, I'd be around these people that were living in sin. We're living together. We're having, you know,

relations and doing things we're not supposed to be doing, right? And so, that's just not the way you

That's not the way you're supposed to live. Now, I know you've had some more angelic experiences and and you're going

to talk about those and but then you're also going to be talking about the second time of when you died and saw

heaven. But keep going. Okay, so thank you for that. Um So, here I am in a car accident. Um but

right before it happens, we come up to this intersection and I'm kind of sleeping on the window, my head against

the window. And my boyfriend's 2-year-old daughter, maybe she was three at the time, was in

the back seat sleeping. And I hear a voice tell me, "Get the child and put her on your lap."

And I kind of wake up and I'm like, "Did you say something?" to the boyfriend. He's like, "No." And so, I tried to

drift off to sleep again, but it happened a second time. "Get the child and put her on your lap now." And so, I

was like, "Well, that's kind of weird, but I'll just do it." And because I was obedient, I kind of climbed to the back

seat. I could reach her, carried her up into, you know, just kind of lifted her up and around the seat, put her in my

lap. Well, then we got to an intersection and the same voice was telling me, "Tell your boyfriend to slow

the car." The street lights were out and there were sandwich boards. So, they they put

those up in the old days when the lights were out and they needed people to be careful at the intersection. And I said,

"Go slow. Slower." And because I said that, this drunk driver that came up over the hill and

T-boned us. Um it hit us in front of where we were seated, it hit the wheel, moved the

entire trunk and hood and everything over, engine, hood,

everything. Totaled the car. Um, but if I hadn't said that, it would have killed all of us. He was going 55, probably 60

miles an hour. And so we walked away. I had a couple like concussion and sore elbow and that,

but everybody lived, praise God, because of that obedience. So when we hear God's voice,

when you know you should do it, do it. Do what he says, because there's a blessing in it and he's trying to

prevent something. And when we're not living in Christ, people say, "Well, why would he care about me? I'm a sinner."

He wants your soul, he loves you. He loves you that much. He'll do anything. Remember those angels in the planning

room? They're moving some stuff around. But it requires us to obey and do what he tells us to do to get the blessing.

And so that was one of those events where we chose to go down this road and now they've got to intercede somehow and

somehow you're legally allowed to hear that. Well, why is that? I was in a dream state. So legally, it could have

been a dream, it could have been, you know, whatever. Um, and that's when God can speak to you, when you're halfway

between being awake and kind of slumbering. And so that's just a legal way. And the

enemy can talk to you, too. He puts thoughts in your head and you think they're your thoughts, but they're not.

The negative thoughts that enter your head, those aren't yours. That comes from the enemy and you have the choice

to listen to that or say, "No, uh-uh." Rebuke the enemy and he'll flee. He really does. So when I was 19, um,

this same boyfriend that I was with at the car accident and that, decided suddenly that he wanted to go find

himself in another state, 3,000 miles away. Um, and he left and I he left me

pregnant. Now, I was like, "Okay, I guess I'm having a child." I didn't know anything. I never

really heard the word abortion. I never knew anyone that had one." Didn't know anything about really the the

dynamics of pregnancy, which sounds absurd, but back in the in the early '70s when I went to school,

we didn't have films and things that really didn't have ultrasounds. We didn't have any of that

technology. So, it was basically, "Here's a man, here's a woman, here's a child, and we're a happy family." That's

pretty much all we knew, right? So, biologically, I knew nothing. So, I'm abandoned at at 19. I'm working in a

hospital. And um I was 11 weeks along, 11 and 1/2 weeks along, and the boyfriend suddenly calls

from He was in Arizona, I'm in Illinois. And he says, "Yeah, come visit me for Christmas." And I'm all happy like,

"Yay, okay, great. I'm going to go visit him." Yeah, cuz he had he I had told him I was

pregnant, and he hung up the phone at one point. So, it was like, "Wow, okay, I'm on my own." But then after that, he

called back and asked me to marry him. So, I'm like, "Great, that's what you do. You get married, right?" And I loved

him. That's that you know, that was definite, but he obviously didn't want another child. He didn't want to pay

more child support, blah blah blah. Anyway, so I went and visited him at Christmas, but when I got there,

there was no tree, there was no intention for Christmas, and he basically took my um

at that time, we didn't have passports. He took my purse, my plane tickets, they were paper

tickets. They didn't have electronic stuff. We didn't have cell phones, none of that. And I didn't have people's

phone numbers really memorized, so I couldn't really call anybody, you know? But I'm stuck at this place at this

house that he's staying at with his one of his relatives. And they have guns, they have drugs. Now, I'm not into any

of this stuff. I'm scared. And he's telling, "You're going to do this um I made an appointment for you at this

abortion clinic, and you're going to go and do this, or you're not getting out of here. So, I was threatened and you

know, guns. You know, you drugs, bad people hanging around. What do I do, right? I I have no

relationship with my family. Okay? Because I'd been kicked out of the house at 17. It's a few years later now.

I knew his parents and they were good, but I didn't want to let them know what their son was doing

cuz I didn't want to hurt them, right? Like my thinking was so skewed. And I grew up thinking submit, submit, submit,

submit to everything. You know, the abuse, the abuse, the abuse. And so, I submitted not wanting to and a

couple times I tried to avoid having that done. Like even to the point of where I was willing to jump out of the

moving car on the way to the clinic, except that I didn't want to hurt the baby if that even makes any sense,

right? So, I get to the clinic and it's all lies and they and it gets it becomes

confusing. They're telling me it's a clump of cells, it's not really a baby yet. And I'm like, "When does it become

a baby?" And they're going, "Well, you're 11 weeks. It happens at 12." And I'm going,

pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure. You know? And he's literally holding my arm. I'm not going anywhere. And I

looked on the sidewalk, is there anybody that can help me? Just give me one person that can I can say help me. There

was nobody on the sidewalk. There was no anti-abortion people, there was nothing, right? Nothing. And so, I was forced to

go through this. It's a two-day process. I won't go into specifics, but the first day is just prep and the second and and

counseling, which is complete pressure. You know, this is a terrible thing. This isn't a child, it's just cells. Why do

you want to wreck your life? I'm ruining my life is what they're telling me and just pressure, pressure. And I'm just

bawling, just bawling. Nobody on my side. And they want their money, money, money, money. And um

not knowing what the process was. But the second day I got there and on the table,

I'm saying, "I don't want this. And I felt in the spirit something shift from me like the responsibility

to this doctor who I'm sure is gone now cuz he was probably 50 and that was back in the in the

1980 81. And so he's probably gone now. I don't know where he is, but I prayed for him

after that and forgave him anyway. Um and so long story short, that happened and now shame and guilt and I go into

anorexia and I won't I'm not eating. I'm eating like one small meal every other day. I just I

don't want to live, but I don't want to die, but I don't know what to do and I'm just carrying the weight of this cuz

afterwards I realized what had been done. And how did I allow that even though I

tried to stop it? I mean the nurse was like holding on to me and the doctor's at my feet and I'm in a corner. Where am

I going to go? I'm a kid, you know. And um so it's not what people say it is. It's much worse than that.

And not everybody that goes into these clinics wants to have this done, okay? A lot of pressure, a lot of lies, a lot of

confusion. So I'm thinking I'm this horrible sinner, God hates me. What's you know, what's he want with me? Why

did he let me go to heaven? There's all this confusion. And I have no spiritual guides to talk about any of this with.

I even went to counselors and they were like they're coming back from a lunch break, but I took it personally that

they were taking a long time to even invite me in their office that I just went got up and left. So I couldn't I

couldn't let anyone in because I'd been so lied to and manipulated. I couldn't trust anybody.

So a lot of years I would just have these defenses and you know, I even went and got a motorcycle license and was

like a biker chip chick, you know, and hung around the wrong crowds, but I wasn't smoking or drinking or doing

drugs or anything like that. I was actually a good kid. I just had this tough gal exterior as a form of

protection because no one in my life, certainly no male figures or even female figures had been there to protect me,

okay? So, I was on my own, or so I thought, but here Jesus is with me in all of this and I

don't even know it, okay? And yet I can hear Holy Spirit speak to me because I'm not I'm basically on a multi-year fast,

okay? Because I'm working nights, okay, in the worst

part of town and I'm single and I'm alone and, you know, I'm driving around in places where

a blonde white chick in their 20s wouldn't drive, okay? You just wouldn't do that. And um

even my friends who are of a darker skin color would be like, "You don't want to be driving here at night. It's not good

for you." But I'm working in these environments, right? Not worried about it. Just sort of knowing somehow God's

going to protect me, right? And he does. And so, one of the nights I get out of work at about 3:00 in the morning and I

worked on the second floor of a building where it had a parking garage down below.

And so, it was enclosed. You'd have to open an access door, put your car in, the big overhead door would have to be

closed and then you lock the access door. Well, I'm coming out of work at 3:00 in the morning, got the car out,

the big door was shut and I was going to close the access door, came back to my car.

And now, I was prepared for stuff, right? For crime, even though it never really touched me, because 2 weeks

before Holy Spirit had told me, "Tell your co-worker." He's a tall, lanky, um African-American

man and that's important to me because that's what that'll be important in a moment. I

said, "Hey." He was always hustling things on the side and getting this and getting that. I said, "Can you get me a

a of mace?" Cuz God had said, "Get a can of mace. Now, this is back when it wasn't pepper spray.

It was the real real deal, right? And he's like, "What do you want that for?" I said, "I don't know. I feel like I'm

supposed to have it for protection." So, he did. He got me a can of mace from wherever he get that, right? Cuz I

didn't know. And I began wearing this wearing this on my hip.

And so, the night I came out and was taking my car out of the garage, out of to my left, my car's in front of

me. I'm standing by the the uh driver door about to unlock it. To my left, I see this tall black guy in a trench coat

with a tire iron. Now, it's like Janie, it's like one of those cartoon um descriptions, you know, tall, lanky,

tire iron, right? And he's basically running across the street on a diagonal, and he's at the back of my car now, and

I'm going, "Whoa, I'm about to get attacked." So, I'm looking down to my left where I have this holster that has

this um mace can on it. I'm trying to get it out and, you know, prepare to just

defend myself. And he was, I guess, watching what I was doing, but he was coming towards me.

Now, I had this Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser wagon, the largest station wagon you can have,

thankfully. So, it took me a little bit to get to where I was. And he was standing right next to me, and behind me

to my left, both of us saw and heard the door open, and my colleague, his name was he went

by the name Sly, you know, which is funny. He comes out, and he said something to

me. I don't even remember what he said that day, but we both saw him. I turned away from the attacker

to go look at the door, and I see him stick his head out there. And I said something to him like, "Wait

a second," you know, cuz there's like this guy about to attack me. Well, he saw him, too. He turned, and he ran back

the way he came. Which is kind of how the enemy does. He He goes the way he came, right?

And I'm like in shock going, "What just happened?" You know, I was just about to die, right? And so, I'm like, "Okay,

I'll gather my stuff." I turn back to the door, only Sly's gone. The door's closed. And I'm like, "Okay, he must

have went back upstairs. I'll go tell him thank you, right?" But then, I'm kind of mad and I go running down the

street a little bit to see where the guy went and he's gone. So, I'm going, "What the heck? Where did

he go? He's gone." Like, where'd that courage come from? I don't know. It was just adrenaline, right? So, I'm like,

"Okay, I'll go inside." And I go back up to the second floor and I'm like, "Where's Sly? Where's Sly?" And the

ladies I worked with, um we were typesetters and setting type is how we used to do it to put words on a

page on photographic film for printing before they did it digitally, right? And so, we had like dedicated computer

programs that would do that that like programming languages cuz you couldn't see it. You would have to do it all in

your head and then put it on there. So, I'm like, "Where's Sly? Where's Sly?" And oh, he's in the film room developing

a canister of film and I'm like, "Well, he was just downstairs." And they go, "Uh no, he's been up here the whole

time. He's not left this room." There was six people in that room that saw him there.

But me and the attacker saw him downstairs. So, this is God manifesting an angel to save my dumb butt when I'm

not living the way that I should because he loves me that much. Praise God. This is what he'll do. He loves us that much.

He doesn't want us walking in sin. And you know what? He told me at one point in my life, the reason he does this is

that he's going to have to, like the angels, move some stuff out of the way to get you where you're going to serve

him. And he'll do it whatever means he needs to. He'll use angels and they'll

manifest. People talk about, "Oh, my car tire went flat. Some guy showed up, changed it, and then he was gone." Well,

we're often entertaining angels unawares, not aware who was right in front of us. And we're

not necessarily supposed to know, but when they disappear, praise God, then we can give him glory

because there's no way I would have survived that attack. There's just no way, not even with a can of mace. The

guy had a tire iron. He was probably twice as large as I was, super tall, big guy. You know, at the time I was

probably 98 lb. I was really, really cuz I'm anorexic. I'm not eating. So, I wasn't real

strong. I was really thin. I was a easy target. But God. So, Paula, tell me about when your heart stopped and about

the second time of seeing heaven. And we will and you we will be getting to uh end times set in stone, but tell me

about what happened with your heart. Okay, Janie. Um before I do that, if I may just interject, I forgot to tell

people that um God didn't leave me in my sin with the abortion, um by the way. On the way back when I did finally leave

Arizona and fly back, um even though I was on the plane weeping, this woman, I don't even know what she looks like, I

don't remember her voice, but she came from on the plane and sat with me the entire flight. And she began to speak

life into me just out of the kindness of her heart. And so, God didn't let me sit in that weeping alone. He gave someone

to be a comforter, which is really the Holy Spirit and her moved her to be my comforter and to tell me, "This doesn't

have to be your life. Just because this happened to you, it doesn't have to define who you are. God wants things

that are better for you." And so, that was the first step, the first glimpse of life being spoken into me um through all

of these tragedies and things. And many other things happened. So, um at some point uh fast forward to

1991, and I'm married and I had children. Uh I'm sorry. Not yet. '91, I'm married

and I had children. We moved from Illinois to Wisconsin and I got bit by a tick and I got Lyme disease and other

infections that go with that. So, I was sick for a number of years. Um I had hallucinations. I had heart

problems um because Lyme attacks every part of your body, okay? Your brain, your your every organ system,

um muscle, your your skeletal system, your bones, everything. Doesn't matter what it is on your body, it'll attack

it. And there's so many symptoms that come with it, it's confusing for doctors to figure out. Um so, I went 12 years

without an a diagnosis, even though I knew what it was. And there's a whole political side connected to it. And in

that process, um I did eventually get divorced. I was married to a very abusive man, endured a lot of stuff. Um

physical abuse, the R the R word, you know, in marriage and things that women shouldn't have to go through. Anybody

shouldn't have to go Kids shouldn't be exposed to that, right? And um at this point, let's get to 2003.

I'm remarried by this time for a couple of years, for 3 years. I remarried in 2000 to a really wonderful man. God led

me to him and said to me, literally spoke to me and said, "This one's not going to hurt you like the other one

did." So, I I knew he was supposed to be my husband, right? So, God led me to him. And we weren't like saved in the

way where we sit there and go, "Okay, Jesus, I turn my heart over to you." And then you begin living a holy life,

walking in that holiness. But we were saved in the sense that we really did love the Lord in our understanding and

we're just trying to live a good life, you know what I mean? So, we were like the typical Christians.

He was in the Lutheran faith, I had no faith, I was just relationship with the Lord. And so, her struggling still with

Lyme disease, we went through 12 years of a court battle with my ex to try to take the kids away. We had them for 6

and 1/2 years before he finally succeeded in that, but by now, um in 2003, I'm at Mayo Clinic for 10

days basically dying and they're going, "We don't know how to help you. We know this is going on, but they wouldn't

acknowledge Lyme disease. They did all these tests and stuff and I'm like, I'm down again to 98 lb. I'm really really

not eating. I'm not I'm eating potatoes and water every day. I'm like, who eats that? But my body was reacting to my gut

was so damaged, it was reacting to food, everything. I had all these food allergies and food food things and

anxiety and all this other junk and physical symptoms, bone and and my heart uh probably had um carditis, Lyme

carditis, but um they wouldn't look at that. They wouldn't look at Lyme and so they they're like, "Look, we can't treat

you. We're just going to send you home." And I said, "What am I supposed to do? Just not eat and die?" And they said,

"Well, that's one way of handling it." And I was just flabbergasted. I'm like,

"Are you kidding me? Great place, but for some reason they wouldn't touch Lyme." And I know why now, but back then

I was just devastated. I just was like, "Well, God, I I don't know how to live like this." And I was having um visions

of demons standing by my bed like coming to take me away kind of thing. And one time this really tall, lanky, ugly demon

um said something to me mocking a prayer I had said to God. And I grabbed a Bible that was on my bookshelf. Thankfully, I

had one that I never threw away, never looked in it, but I flung it open and it was on Mark 14:36 and I just

spoke the scripture that I found and this was Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane praying to the Father,

"Father, take away this cup from me, you know, nevertheless not my will but your will be done, right?" And this demon

disappears and I'm just like "God, did you even hear this prayer?" You know, like cuz I'm going through this hellish

physical battle, this awful court battle, you know, I'm getting false accusations against me, just lies after

lies after lies and I'm just just devastating and I would weep on my bed at night and get visions of stuff and

that's the whole 'nother story. But here I am, I'm just ready to give up cuz I I don't know what else to do, right? I'm

exhausted, my body's exhausted, my heart would stop and then like I'd go down for the count, like fall over, but then it

would start up again, so I had this irrit- irritated uh heart, the beat was off, it was just an arrhythmia, it was

just confounding everything, it was making everything difficult. And so I'm like, you know, I'm either going to die

of this, Lord, or or I'm going to die of this, right? I guess there's no other choice, right?

And so um for three nights in a row I'm going to bed at night, my husband sleeps if you're in the bed, he's on my

left, I'm on the right. I go to bed and the bed would shake, I'd feel the bed shaking from side to side.

Well, it wasn't the bed as far as I know, it was me in the spirit. It's like my body's trying to shake out my spirit

so that I'll leave, right? Um and I'm just going I don't know, I'm just surrendered to whatever's going to

happen. And so on the third night that this happens, um I I do fall asleep and then at some point in the middle of the

night I wake up and I'm like, "Okay, I'm awake, but I I'm I'm a little hungry, maybe I can go try a piece of toast or

something. And I'm looking through the window at the foot of our bed. I'm in bed. I'm just kind of looking out the

window. I can see there's sheer curtains on it. So I can see stars and stuff. And all of a sudden this orb of light comes

in through the window and I'm like, what the heck is this? I've never seen an orb. I didn't know what an orb was. This

is ball of light. It's bluish white, just round ball and it floats from the foot of the bed over to the side of the

bed. And as it floats, it's opening up. I'm like watching it going, you know, like what? And it has the presence of

God on it. So there's complete peace. There's no fear at all. It's just this is of God and I'm watching it happen.

And this angel steps out of this orb and as he's doing it, the orb sort of is his wings. It turns into wings and then the

wings disappear and I can just see the angel standing there and he's a little over 8 ft because his head kind of goes

through the ceiling a little bit and the ceiling was 8 ft. And I'm just standing there going like, what?

I'm wide awake at this point and he's white, but he's translucent, but it's a bluish white. And

he's tangible. So if he was in color, like if natural color, he would be like a blonde angel. I don't know how I knew

that, but that's he had short hair. And a tunic type robe that was belted at the waist. And I'm like,

looking at him going, okay. And in my mind or in my spirit I'm going, who are you? Like I'm not I'm not

speaking with my mouth. That's just spirit to spirit. And he looks like this, like he's listening. Like what

kind of answer should I give her, Lord? Is what it looks like, right? And then he turns to me and they're very very

powerful. And that's the glory of the Lord that's on them. They're very They have a power

of their own that it's like, man, I am so glad that I'm on your side or you're on my side, right? You don't mess with

these guys. That's the fear of God is all over them, right? He turns to me and he goes, "My name is not important to

you, but for your purposes, you can use the name Victor." So, I'm thinking,

okay, his name's Victor. But really, what he's saying is we're victors in Christ, right?

And it pertains to some of the work that I'm doing with my doctoral dissertation, actually, which was a subject that God

gave me to work on. But I didn't know this at the time. This is back in 2003. I have no clue. We're in 2026.

A lot of stuff's going to happen between then and now that I have no clue about, right? So, I'm like, okay, his name's

Victor. That's great. Um And he sort of turns to the side where I

can only see his right side, and he has his hands together, and I'm getting the idea that he's praying for me

while I'm going to go off and do whatever it is that I'm about to go off and do, right? And so, I turn my head

because I hear the sound of bird wings flapping. You know, little bird's wings, but these are huge and they're going,

you know, va-voomp. Va-voomp. And I turn, and there's, Janie, this enormous

white dove is hovering over me. And I'm like,

wow. I mean, it's really like right here, you know? Just like there's this huge dove. He's alighting upon me, and I

instantly know it's the Holy Spirit. How do I know? I don't know. I just do. God just makes himself known. And I'm

like, wow, you know? And he's white. He's He's His feathers are like You can see that they're soft, but they're like

diamonds. It's just glistening and it's beautiful and he's vibrant and there's a glow around him and what do you do?

There's a giant dove over you, right? So all of a sudden he and his eyes look like rubies.

Like I didn't know what that was, right? So all of a sudden his beak takes out this silver cord from my gut and I'm

going, I don't know what that is. Well, I do now. But he's releasing my spirit man from my

body and there's a silver cord that holds us to our body in the spirit. You know, like or ever the silver cord

be loosed. You know, there that's in the scriptures and I'm not sure where that's at.

Ecclesiastes 12:6. Or ever the silver cord be loosed or the there's like a

a pot that gets broken by the well kind of thing. He's saying you're going to live until you're released from your

spirit. There's nothing you can do about it, right? Um well, there actually is, but that's not what his plan is. So here

he's pulling me out. I'm released from my body and all of a sudden I am up over my body. I can see

it way down there on the bed and I'm like, oh that old thing, my carcass, my shell, like

so glad to be out of that. Janie, it's absolute peace. Absolute rest. I'm not thinking about

the court stuff. I'm not thinking about how sick I felt right before that. I'm not thinking about anything. I see my

husband. I'm like, yeah, whatever. Doesn't matter. None of it matters. But you're in the spirit realm and

you're like, >> [gasps] [sighs]

>> And I could tell I wasn't breathing, but I'm still me. So my my everything that makes my personality, mind, will, not

all of the emotions, just the the positive ones are still intact. And I can't see my spirit or my spirit man,

but I know I feel just like I do. Only it's it's perfected. It's perfect somehow, right? So I'm hovering and I'm

going, "Okay, bye." Go through the roof. I'm going higher and higher and I'm like feeling somebody tap me on the shoulder.

And I just as I turn to see who it was, which I'm sure Holy Spirit, an angel of the Lord, right? Um all of a sudden I'm

going my spirit's going through the eyes of the dove. I enter into rubies, they become flames of fire.

So I'm entering into the eyes of the spirit, the Holy Spirit. However that works, I don't know at that time. I'm

just like experiencing it. I'm like, "Okay." It's not like I had any choice in the matter. I was just doing it,

right? Cuz that's God's will. So now I'm entered into the eyes of the dove and the dove is gone and I'm now

sitting in a white I call it a room. It's really like a space. There's no walls or ceiling, but the floor is

there's a floor, it's white. It's a glowing white room. Everything in it is white. And there's um

It's kind of like remember how I was backstage of the throne room before? Well,

in front of the throne, there's like like now I'm on the right side of the throne is what I'm seeing the

perspective I'm looking at. There's a throne there. So it's a kind of a throne.

You know, we talk about powers, principalities, thrones, rulers of high. So I'm before a throne, whatever that

is. Throne throne angel, archangel, seraphim, don't know. It's a throne and

there's a laver, which is a shallow bowl, and it's gold and it's on a pedestal

that's white. And above the laver is this flame of fire. I understand it that it's the

spirit of God, but I'm not told which one, okay? That's what I'm seeing, right? And I'm like, "Okay, spirit of

God, fire of God." Isn't this interesting cuz I don't know what I'm looking at. I'm just observing. And so

then I'm like, "Okay." And then I'm told that we're going somewhere else. And so the next thing I am in another white

room. And there's another pedestal, only this one has a book on it and it's open. It's

a white book and it's open. It's pretty thick on both sides. And I'm like, "Well, can I go see what's

written on the pages?" Cuz I can see that it's open. And it's not marked like Holy Bible or or Paula's book of her

life or anything like that. And so I get permission and I sort of fly around to where the book is. We we fly, me and

this angel that's with me. I don't see who it is. I don't look to to find out cuz I'm just there. I'm just

experiencing. And I look and as the pages are open like this,

as I'm looking at the page, the right page, from left to right, these words begin to write just as I'm reading them.

It's filling in the pages. And so I get the impression that this is the Book of Life.

And I ask if my name's written in it because somehow I knew enough to ask that. And I was shown my name.

And then he was showing me other writing that was going on. So it's like, "Your story's not completely written cuz

you're still living it out and you still have some free will choice as to how you want that story to be written." And

hopefully it's God's intent that you'll choose to be in his library book, you know, to be in his kingdom, to have that

record recorded, right? But I don't know this at the time. I'm just watching these things happen and I'm like, "Okay,

that's interesting, you know? Isn't that cool?" Right? Cuz that's really just the state of my spirit was in ignorance. I

don't know. It's just wonderment and I'm taking it all in in this total state of awe, right?

And so then um oh, I'm sorry. I missed I I a part. Before I went up, on the way up, and this is really important, and I

just get so excited and I get zealous and I start talking about stuff. But, on the way up from when I first

um died and left my body before I entered the eyes of the dove, uh I saw the

second heaven. And that's the realm like this earth in the spirit and the

cosmos and that's like the domain of the enemy. And that's the second heaven, the skies

above us and the cosmos, all of that is the second heaven. And so, that was like in a sepia tone,

which is a muddy brown. And so, before I actually enter into the eyes of the spirit, I'm seeing this and

I'm like in this realm where it's totally dark, except it's sepia tone, so it's brown. It's like like you're in the

mud, I guess, in a way. And I'm seeing in the center a scene of angels that are white and they have um the Ephesians

armor on, but a different style uh cap. It's kind of uh like a skull cap. It's really tight

on their heads. And they're battling with swords against these demonic ogre beings. Kind of reminds me of the giants

that they describe, you know, with like their super tall, double rows of teeth and all that. And they're big hulky

guys, just these raw. And they're fighting them with swords and I'd see the the ogres fall and die and

evaporate. And I'd see an angel stumble, but but then stand up again. And now I understand it that that's our words help

them fight in the supernatural realm. We speak life to ourselves or we speak death over ourselves. And that's what

they're fighting. They're fighting these spiritual things that manifest because of the words that we're speaking, okay?

So, I'm getting an image of this not knowing what it was. This is way before I had an understanding. And so, this is

what I'm seeing. And then I go up, I continue to go up. It's before I enter the the dove's eyes again and I see I'm

shown a long line of angels standing like soldiers in attention. rows. It's almost like a mirror inside a

mirror inside a mirror. You just see an endless image. That's how many angels were standing there waiting to do

waiting to do battle for me. Like wow, that's a lot of angels and I'm a sinner at this point, right? I have

not completely given my life over to the Lord and that's what's battling our our words and the words that we hear helping

us overcome those battles cuz you're either speaking life or you're speaking death. So, here I am. Let's go back up

to the heavenly realm. It's my favorite place to be actually in the spirit and so

I just saw the labor and the spirit of God. I just saw the the book of life and you know, my name's in it. Yay, isn't